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DiscoHasBeen

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The irony of reading that a day after watching the John Deere service tec plug a laptop into the rental tractor we have. Not that that takes away from your point.
 
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The irony of reading that a day after watching the John Deere service tec plug a laptop into the rental tractor we have. Not that that takes away from your point.
We have a JD 3005 compact tractor with a manual and transfer box. What is really nice is the owners manual describes what and how to perform necessary maintenance. In the 15 years I’ve owned it, never needed to go to the dealer for anything other than parts. Very refreshing working on it and the simplicity of design.
 

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The irony of reading that a day after watching the John Deere service tec plug a laptop into the rental tractor we have. Not that that takes away from your point.
It is not uncommon at all to see a laptop plugged into a tractor.
John Deere is one of the pioneers in development and use of GPS. For precise planting, they use differential, RTK-enabled, GPS that prescribes and records the seed location with sub-inch accuracy.
... and we can later fly over the field, and verify if each of these seeds germinated and produced a plant.
Talk about precision agriculture.
 
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DiscoHasBeen

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It is not uncommon at all to see a laptop plugged into a tractor.
John Deere is one of the pioneers in development and use of GPS. For precise planting, they use differential, RTK-enabled, GPS that prescribes and records the seed location with sub-inch accuracy.
... and we can later fly over the field, and verify if each of these seeds germinated and produced a plant.
Talk about precision agriculture.
There was something wrong with the emission controls in this case. It's funny with these tier 4 tractors. If you don't run the piss out of them you have to regenerated the DPF, which means the tractor sits there and runs at a high rpm for about 20 minutes. That, to me, doesn't seem very emission friendly.
 
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There was something wrong with the emission controls in this case. It's funny with these tier 4 tractors. If you don't run the piss out of them you have to regenerated the DPF, which means the tractor sits there and runs at a high rpm for about 20 minutes. That, to me, doesn't seem very emission friendly.
That's funny indeed. I guess they need to burn off the soot - I'd think it mattered a lot more for city vehicles than for tractors.
 

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It is not uncommon at all to see a laptop plugged into a tractor.
John Deere is one of the pioneers in development and use of GPS. For precise planting, they use differential, RTK-enabled, GPS that prescribes and records the seed location with sub-inch accuracy.
... and we can later fly over the field, and verify if each of these seeds germinated and produced a plant.
Talk about precision agriculture.

If I wanted to damage a nation, the sweetest music to my ears would be the sound of collected data being analyzed telling me precisely where everything has been planted, how well it responded, extrapolating the soil conditions, and suggesting that the systems themselves can be altered remotely to slowly reconfigure the scheduling and planting patterns within the John Deere database, as well.

Someone could really fuck things up if they put their mind to it.

Cheers,

Kennith
 

p m

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If I wanted to damage a nation, the sweetest music to my ears would be the sound of collected data being analyzed telling me precisely where everything has been planted, how well it responded, extrapolating the soil conditions, and suggesting that the systems themselves can be altered remotely to slowly reconfigure the scheduling and planting patterns within the John Deere database, as well.

Someone could really fuck things up if they put their mind to it.

Cheers,

Kennith
You'd be surprised, Kennith. But it's already here.
 

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The alternatives were just as computerized, and as mentioned, eventually including the tractors themselves. I’d say yes, they were just as viable a farm truck as any other truck.

I guess the point I'm trying to make is that nothing is really field repairable anymore.
 

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You'd be surprised, Kennith. But it's already here.

If that's the case, one of the most foolish mistakes in human history has been made. The deployment of such technology should be ceased immediately.

This creates a critical vulnerability in national defense that's precisely located in the only assailable weak point we maintain.

That technology is a nation-killer, and to embrace it is to embrace our demise from without as well as within. I thought robotic tractors were a foolish idea, but adding this to the mix... It's fucking suicidal!

Cheers,

Kennith
 

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If I wanted to damage a nation, the sweetest music to my ears would be the sound of collected data being analyzed telling me precisely where everything has been planted, how well it responded, extrapolating the soil conditions, and suggesting that the systems themselves can be altered remotely to slowly reconfigure the scheduling and planting patterns within the John Deere database, as well.

Someone could really fuck things up if they put their mind to it.

Cheers,

Kennith
The other part of the equation is the Seed / Planting suppliers. Tractors can monitor where / when it was planted however the seed companies have the soil conditions, growing environment, etc. data from the farmers. Over the years it is incredible on how feed corn production has increased in our area. Our farms are smaller and hilly compared to the ones in the Mid West. You still have to be involved in the driving or the tractor has a good chance of getting stuck in the new spring that wasn’t there last year.

Happy Turkey Day!
 
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kennith

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The other part of the equation is the Seed / Planting suppliers. Tractors can monitor where / when it was planted however the seed companies have the soil conditions, growing environment, etc. data from the farmers. Over the years it is incredible on how feed corn production has increased in our area. Our farms are smaller and hilly compared to the ones in the Mid West. You still have to be involved in the driving or the tractor has a good chance of getting stuck in the new spring that wasn’t there last year.

Happy Turkey Day!

I thought we were ten years out from widespread deployment of that crap.

I think I'll just write a letter to the DOD. Maybe it'll be laughed off, but at least I made my point.

Whatever. Back to Defenders and Teslas, and indeed: Happy Turkey Day. (y)

Cheers,

Kennith
 

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Inside my daughter's 3. No dash.

How powerful is the blower motor, and how cold is the air coming out of that vent? I like a fucking blizzard or dragon breath; nothing in between.

I've been curious about the climate control in that car ever since I first saw it, but nobody ever reviews climate control.

Cheers,

Kennith
 

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How powerful is the blower motor, and how cold is the air coming out of that vent? I like a fucking blizzard or dragon breath; nothing in between.

I've been curious about the climate control in that car ever since I first saw it, but nobody ever reviews climate control.

Cheers,

Kennith

I don't know that I would call it dragon breathe but it warmed the cabin up quickly @ 49 degrees here in Dallas. Tried to get a look underneath the hood but everything is storage. Yes I see the nuts to remove that but the car is brand new and I'm pretty sure my daughter would not appreciate that. Hood latches are controlled through the touchscreen. Not sure how you would access areas in a loss of power. Not a fan of the door handles but that might be something one would get use to. We came out of the airport onto the freeway and it's instant acceleration.

Back to the heater. You can do this and it blows warm air.
 

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How powerful is the blower motor, and how cold is the air coming out of that vent? I like a fucking blizzard or dragon breath; nothing in between.

I've been curious about the climate control in that car ever since I first saw it, but nobody ever reviews climate control.

Cheers,

Kennith
It’s great. Roommate had one. Stuff works right away and pushes air well. I think the full fan sounds noisier than a normal car but is probably just because everything else is so quiet.

The car runs the air to keep it from getting too hot during the summer when it sits. Im sure you can set that temperature yourself.

Never sat in the back, though.