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Blue

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8 inch wheels

Peter, you know I'm not a redneck mudder...I just occasionally need to get through some mud to get where I'm going. Went exploring up on the Mogollan Rim between Flagstaff and Strawberry, AZ.
 

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DEVIANT

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Thats why I went with 15" wheels. Tires are a lot cheaper for smaller wheels. Even with the cost of 5 new steel wheels plus the new tires, mounting and balancing came in at $1050 for a 35x12.50
Are the 15's cheaper or just 35x12.5s in general because they are the de-facto big tire truck tire? If I had room for 35s I think it would be a lot cheaper with a bagajillion options vs the 2-3 options for pizza cutters or 33-34s :confused:
 

Blue

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Blue aren’t the S wheels only 7” wide?

Thought they are 16X8....

Edit: seeing them quoted online at OEM resellers at both 7" & 8". Will give mine a quick measure as best I can with tires mounted. Now I'm curious...I always thought they were 8".
 

K-rover

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Are the 15's cheaper or just 35x12.5s in general because they are the de-facto big tire truck tire? If I had room for 35s I think it would be a lot cheaper with a bagajillion options vs the 2-3 options for pizza cutters or 33-34s :confused:

15's in general are cheaper. I got the tires for sub $200 per tire and new steelies for $40 a piece on sale. Plus I wanted more sidewall for when I air down. I will say finding stuff in smaller wheel sizes is getting harder. Jeeps have made 17's the new norm.
 
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kennith

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What are the make and, size of your tires ? That's a good look.

Those are Goodyear Fierce Attitude MTs. The previous post mentioned 265/75R16, and that's about what they look like to me.

Sometimes it's a little tough to tell size depending on angle, shoulder tread, and whether or not they're new; but maybe they'll pop back in for an answer.

Cheers,

Kennith
 
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Sixx

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Those are Goodyear Fierce Attitude MTs. The previous post mentioned 265/75R16, and that's about what they look like to me.

Sometimes it's a little tough to tell size depending on angle, shoulder tread, and whether or not they're new; but maybe they'll pop back in for an answer.

Cheers,

Kennith
Thanks bud. I bought a 2000 Dis 2 a few month ago. I smoged it myself. Head gaskets too. Love the machine. It's time to lift it a little. Not much though. Some tires too. Trying to get an idea of a optimal larger size. The photo in question reveals a good look with those tires.
 

Sixx

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Those are Goodyear Fierce Attitude MTs. The previous post mentioned 265/75R16, and that's about what they look like to me.

Sometimes it's a little tough to tell size depending on angle, shoulder tread, and whether or not they're new; but maybe they'll pop back in for an answer.

Cheers,

Kennith
I enlared the photo and, broke the magnifying glass out. I still couldn't make out the size. I did see the make.
 

kennith

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I enlared the photo and, broke the magnifying glass out. I still couldn't make out the size. I did see the make.

The optimal tire size for a DII (if you want larger tires, obviously) is almost universally 265/75R16 until you've driven one for a while. I still think it's about perfect for most people either way.

That's the magic number. With that size, you get the look and the performance without sacrificing anything else or needing a massive lift. Just about any spring option you'd actually buy will work fine.

Sometimes you have to trim the front of the plastic sills a little bit if you don't have sliders installed, but that's very easy, doesn't require removal, and only takes a couple of minutes. If you ever sell the car, the odds of anyone noticing are slim at best, and you can get replacement sills all day long if you just have to have them.

That's more common now that almost every tire has lugs rolling over the shoulder to the sidewall. Don't let that trimming worry you.

You can buy larger tires and fit them, but most will suggest a three inch lift; and a three inch lift on a DII isn't the same as such a lift on say, a Jeep. Rovers become unnecessarily gigantic very quickly, and the radius arms start throwing off caster anyway.

A 1.5" to 2.0" lift is essentially the standard, and it's the standard for very good reasons. It's an isolated purchase; you don't have to do much else, and it lets the vehicle remain a DII, so far as overall handling and comfort are concerned. Grab an Old Man Emu HD or equivalent kit to just be done with it.

Cheers,

Kennith
 
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discostew

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You sir, might be mildly retarded.

I drove my KM2's all over North Dakota, Montana, Colorado, Wyoming, and to your moms house a few times in the wildest arctic shit that could only be referenced as "Ice Road Trucker-esque".

-31 deg F...Roads and Ground Frozen Solid...not a problem

15 deg F and blowing snow straight up somehow...not a problem

KM2's are great for snow and Ice. KM1's on the other hand, are not siped nearly enough IMHO, and the only pair I ever owned were siped.

No experience with KM3's though...
Pot meet Kettle. Only retarded people would think that a tire without sipes would be a good snow tire.
This is a good snow tire. BF Goodrich Commercial TA Traction.
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kennith

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Pot meet Kettle. Only retarded people would think that a tire without sipes would be a good snow tire.
This is a good snow tire. BF Goodrich Commercial TA Traction.
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I hate defending BF Goodrich...

The KM2s weren't bad in winter conditions, though. As many frustrations as I had with those damned tires, winter performance wasn't one of them. Obviously a snow tire, chains, or just something that's been siped is going to be more suitable; but the KM2 never let me down in slippery conditions, and I'll second the severity of those he mentions.

They never jumped out and surprised me. If they were going to let go, I knew it well in advance, and they were wonderfully controllable as grip released.

It's just a shame they weren't built with any real quality control, and that the compound that started out great faded away so quickly in relation to other offerings. Nothing new from the company there, though...

Cheers,

Kennith
 

Sixx

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The optimal tire size for a DII (if you want larger tires, obviously) is almost universally 265/75R16 until you've driven one for a while. I still think it's about perfect for most people either way.

That's the magic number. With that size, you get the look and the performance without sacrificing anything else or needing a massive lift. Just about any spring option you'd actually buy will work fine.

Sometimes you have to trim the front of the plastic sills a little bit if you don't have sliders installed, but that's very easy, doesn't require removal, and only takes a couple of minutes. If you ever sell the car, the odds of anyone noticing are slim at best, and you can get replacement sills all day long if you just have to have them.

That's more common now that almost every tire has lugs rolling over the shoulder to the sidewall. Don't let that trimming worry you.

You can buy larger tires and fit them, but most will suggest a three inch lift; and a three inch lift on a DII isn't the same as such a lift on say, a Jeep. Rovers become unnecessarily gigantic very quickly, and the radius arms start throwing off caster anyway.

A 1.5" to 2.0" lift is essentially the standard, and it's the standard for very good reasons. It's an isolated purchase; you don't have to do much else, and it lets the vehicle remain a DII, so far as overall handling and comfort are concerned. Grab an Old Man Emu HD or equivalent kit to just be done with it.

Cheers,

Kennith
Thank you for the information. 2" lift is plenty. The tire size sounds good. I surely don't want to go near over the limit. Too much stress on the machine. I live in Northern California. I need just a
The optimal tire size for a DII (if you want larger tires, obviously) is almost universally 265/75R16 until you've driven one for a while. I still think it's about perfect for most people either way.

That's the magic number. With that size, you get the look and the performance without sacrificing anything else or needing a massive lift. Just about any spring option you'd actually buy will work fine.

Sometimes you have to trim the front of the plastic sills a little bit if you don't have sliders installed, but that's very easy, doesn't require removal, and only takes a couple of minutes. If you ever sell the car, the odds of anyone noticing are slim at best, and you can get replacement sills all day long if you just have to have them.

That's more common now that almost every tire has lugs rolling over the shoulder to the sidewall. Don't let that trimming worry you.

You can buy larger tires and fit them, but most will suggest a three inch lift; and a three inch lift on a DII isn't the same as such a lift on say, a Jeep. Rovers become unnecessarily gigantic very quickly, and the radius arms start throwing off caster anyway.

A 1.5" to 2.0" lift is essentially the standard, and it's the standard for very good reasons. It's an isolated purchase; you don't have to do much else, and it lets the vehicle remain a DII, so far as overall handling and comfort are concerned. Grab an Old Man Emu HD or equivalent kit to just be done with it.

Cheers,

Kennith
I wasn't going over 2" lift. Didn't want too large of a tire either. Just under exponential stress. Thanks very much.
 

bnmack1

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Late the the conversation but I just purchased a set of the Falken Wildpeak MT and they are awesome! Who knows on longevity but on road they are quiet for a MT and very good on the one trip to URE I've made on them. 04 d2 265/75/16 1k out the door mounted balanced at my local tire shop

How's their noise level and wet traction? I currently have vision wheels with Grabber AT2's. I have no problems with these all-around tires though I'm looking for something with a more aggressive tread design.
 

jgdisco2

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Noise level is quieter than my buddies BFG Muds. They are fine in wet conditions, I haven't really been on the trails when it was soaked but they were fine otherwise
 
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rover4x4

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The Wildpeak MT is at the top of the list for my Classic, the similarities to the BFG KM's are a win. Ive read on the www that these tires are prone to chunking in the rocks, they seem like a good tire and Jeep is putting them on the Rubicons...
 

DEVIANT

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I'd like to do 35x10.5, but there aren't really any options besides Interco swampers

I saw these 35x10.5 the other day and have been thinking about fitting 17" rims to try them out. Anyone have experience?


"The internetz" reviews are favorable but the fact I can only find them at WalMart and other random places is not too promising.