1996 Discovery 1 SD 300tdi/R380 with CA diesel title

[emmodg]

It is VERY hard to understand how putting a low-tech run-of-the-mill used diesel in a $2500 truck makes it an $8000 truck. It's a diesel. It blows black smoke out of the tailpipe not gold bullion! If Jesus himself installed the diesel its STILL an old used diesel engine in an old used $2500 truck. MPG won't be stellar, you'll pay more to fill it up, and all the while your running around in a less-than-overly dependable truck that has bad paint, wouldn't pass inspection where I am for the crack in the windshield, needs tires, clutch work, AND has a R-title! And one can have ALL of this for a "mere" $8000? You're waiting on a customer who would let common sense take a back seat to lust as far as a buyer goes. It's gonna be some dummy that just wants to tell his friends he has a diesel Disco. I'm gonna have to take Daniel's side here - it's not worth $8000 to anyone with common sense.

The dumb money is on eBay.

 

[Roving Beetle]

As a fellow diesel lover, licensed used car dealer and Rover nut-job.... I stand by what I wrote. Clean, new tires and you'll see $6k fast on eBay or exp sites.

 

[emmodg]

With new tires and a car wash you still have a diesel engine with a salvage-titled truck attached.

I will agree - some dummy on eBay would probably give $6k for it maaaaaaaaaaybe.

 

[K-rover]

Here you go.. This guy must also be sniffing glue! http://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/4580002944.html

 

[mgreenspan]

Here you go.. This guy must also be sniffing glue! http://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/4580002944.html

He went way custom and removed the airbags. Solid wtf.

 

[emmodg]

Misery loves company and fools make great bedfellows.

What a man asks for and what he gets is two different things.

Again - an old SUV with a salvage title, bald tires, bad paint, and unable to pass inspection in many states is worth very little. But, somehow, by installing an old diesel engine and mating it to a questionable clutch more than triples the price? It's an old diesel with a truck attached.

There's gotta be some dummy on eBay wanting to part with his money though so.....

 

[FB111]

The whole point of the diesel in the discovery is old school. No ecu's and no electronics to worry about. And half as many head gaskets that last significantly longer. Let's see a modern engine make a water crossing with the interior flooded and water half way to the roof.

 

[emmodg]

If you have water "half way to the roof" you have a lot more to worry about then an ECU. I trained with with a fleet of Hilux' and Defenders, and BJ's, etc... We had a student hydro-stall a 110 in a VERY small pond in water barely over the front bumper. NO engine, none, zero, nunca, nada, will survive water ingestion, ecu or not. We had a brand new Kubota come through a shop with con rods that looked like bananas by a simple creek crossing - this is a big ag. tractor with a unit injection "old-school" diesel. That was a $8000 for the engine alone. Hell, a diesel will hydrolock on its own fuel, it doesn't need an ECU for that either! Poor argument against "modern" diesels.

 

[Blueboy]

NO engine, none, zero, nunca, nada, will survive water ingestion

very valid point and one I think many folks don't think about when around water.

nice pic of the connecting rods.

 

[FB111]

If you have water "half way to the roof" you have a lot more to worry about then an ECU. I trained with with a fleet of Hilux' and Defenders, and BJ's, etc... We had a student hydro-stall a 110 in a VERY small pond in water barely over the front bumper. NO engine, none, zero, nunca, nada, will survive water ingestion, ecu or not. We had a brand new Kubota come through a shop with con rods that looked like bananas by a simple creek crossing - this is a big ag. tractor with a unit injection "old-school" diesel. That was a $8000 for the engine alone. Hell, a diesel will hydrolock on its own fuel, it doesn't need an ECU for that either! Poor argument against "modern" diesels.

Come on get real. Half the rovers on this site have snorkels. Your argument is totally bogus. Go back and look at some old camel trophy videos. There are rovers hopelessly floating down river trying to make a river crossing and the dam things are still running.

 

[emmodg]

Don't be so naive.

Snorkels were never intended to be used as deep water wading devices. They were created to lift the intake into "cleaner" air with less dust and debris. (Theory being that these particulates are heavier than air of course.) But, if you're one of those guys who believes that your truck can ford water to the top of a snorkel? By all means, continue that practice. Especially with a gasoline engine - your coil/coil packs, ecm, ecu, etc...looooove water! And by the way, review your "trophy" history - they did suffer water inhalation.

I would also ask how many years you've witnessed multiple platforms - diesel(including common rail) and gasoline Rovers, Toyota, HUMVEE, etc, suffer water inhalation from driver "error"?

Back to the original debate - It's a free country. One can ask and/or pay whatever he or she wants for a car, truck, home, or beer. There are smart consumers and then there are consumers driven by want or wish, the latter being what the seller of this truck hopes to find. I can think of all sorts of stuff I'd rather put my $6k into as far as a Land Rover is concerned than a "cool" diesel-powered salvage truck.

 

[FB111]

You can find exceptions to any rule but logic would tell you that a five speed diesel discovery would fare much better stalled in a mud hole at the old MAR than the same truck equipped with a V8 and automatic. My first four wheel drive vehicle was owned probably before you were born. Purchased a wrecked early FJ40 with a column shifter and a rag top. Can't remember what year it was but I owned it in the mid 70's and it was old by the time I bought it. I have only owned an old Mercedes diesel and am entertaining a Rover diesel at some point. If I did go that route it would be a 300 TDI and I would also do veggie or WVO again something the newer diesels are unable to do.

 

[K-rover]

You can find exceptions to any rule but logic would tell you that a five speed diesel discovery would fare much better stalled in a mud hole at the old MAR than the same truck equipped with a V8 and automatic. My first four wheel drive vehicle was owned probably before you were born. Purchased a wrecked early FJ40 with a column shifter and a rag top. Can't remember what year it was but I owned it in the mid 70's and it was old by the time I bought it. I have only owned an old Mercedes diesel and am entertaining a Rover diesel at some point. If I did go that route it would be a 300 TDI and I would also do veggie or WVO again something the newer diesels are unable to do.

Logic would tell me not to drive through water deeper than my door sills. Doesnt matter what Im driving.

 

[emmodg]

Logic would tell me not to drive through water deeper than my door sills. Doesnt matter what Im driving.

X infinity

 

[FB111]

Are you two serious? Half the off roaders on this site are testing their door seals. Look at the pics of trails/events for Mar or the Pine barrens.

 

[emmodg]

Don't concern yourself with what other people subject their trucks to - be smart with your own.

 

[Roving Beetle]

I didn't say it was WORTH $6k. Ha ha ha

It's an unknown miles diesel that's expensive to maintain hooked to a used up truck.

Good luck with the sale to the seller. Seriously - not trying to be a smart ass - I hope he sells for near what he's asking. But it won't be here.

 

[Devildog01]

I have forded water up to my windshield in my d2 and my snorkel worked fine. That being said, as long as you are moving through a short body of water at a reasonable speed and create a bow wave when you enter your odds of making it through greatly improve. If you stop in that deep of water or drive through to slowly you can be in a world of shit in a hurry.

 

[slomatt]

Wow, lots of inaccurate representations of the truck. I'm not sure where I said it was "used up", and I don't see why only "dummies" would be interested in a diesel rover. My intention when writing the ad was to be completely clear about any imperfections so that potential buyers knew exactly what they were getting into.

Anyway, the Disco has sold and moved on to its new owner who is extremely excited with the vehicle.

Now back to the discussion of fording depths ...

 

[Roving Beetle]

Awesome. Nice!

Sorry about the "used up" comment. Bad choice of words... Only meant it's an older truck with issues. Not any different than any out there and yes you seemed to be honest and forthright about the truck - that's why it sold for you. Good on ya.

Cheers
Doug