2008 Mid Atlantic Rally! Oct 2, 3, 4, 5

lrmike

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It's just around the corner, the biggest, best and most unique Land Rover event in North America - the 2008 Mid Atlantic Rally

In celebration of the 60th anniversary of Land Rover, the Rover Owners Association of Virginia ( ROAV) is planning the single largest and most unique Land Rover event EVER in North America! A few of the highlights that your $105.00 registration fee includes:

A new venue for the MAR - Oakridge Estate (Oak Ridge) in Arrington, VA. A wonderful 200 year old, 5000 acre historical estate in Nelson County, VA

Over 40 miles of offroad trails - An established trail system with obstacles to accommodate all levels of difficulty with experienced trail guides at our disposal

Bill Burke! - International offroad trainer and guide, former Camel trophy participant and all around cool dude, Bill will be holding class at the MAR! Classroom and trail instruction throughout the event, all skill levels! Of course, our ever popular Ladies Only Tech and Trail too!

Vendors - With support from top flight vendors such as Rovers North and experienced Land Rover retailers we are EXCITED about the opportunities to have all the best parts and accessories and the newest Land Rover technology all together in one place

Events - An array of events for everyone! Our old favorites, the Teeter Totter, slow race and the blindfold obstacle course are a popular diversion for everyone. The Rovers North RTV - a popular driving skills challenge from the UK with a unique American twist. Speaking of twist, we even have an RTI 'twist' ramp to test your flex!

Aluminum Man Triathlon - Our premier event, the AMT pits teams of 2 persons against each other in a series of 3 events. First, a skills challenge (ever tried to paddle your road wheel in a canoe?). Second, a navigational challenge (GPS coordinates, 10:00PM, torrential rain - let then fun begin!) Third, a driving challenge (the RTV, or a slightly sadistic version of it) Only the most dedicated teams see it through for the most valued prizes!

Tech Sessions - from 1948 to 2008, we'll have tech sessions to suit from professional technicians and instructors!

Entertainment - Each day live bands and entertainment at the main stage!

Food ? Food vendors will be available throughout the rally, plus an elegant meet and greet at the estate?s Carriage House on Friday night.

Raffle and Auction - An opportunity to get something for nothing, or at least close to it! Saturday night will be a unique combination of live raffle and auction, entertainment and bargains for everyone! Just watch out for the monkeys....

On Site Camping!! - We are very excited about this - primitive camping on site, INCLUDED IN YOUR REGISTRATION FEE! Not something normally available at Oakridge, our Rally site encompasses acres of gently rolling hills and flat ground ideal for camping! As always, no ground fires permitted.

Golf Carts?! - Yes, because the rally site is so extensive we are allowing for the first time Golf Carts to be used on the site! There will also be rentals available if you want to take advantage. Why? Easy - with this many people moving around the site it makes more sense to use a cart than your truck to get from your campsite to the main tent. Yes, it really is THAT MUCH SPACE! Besides, think of the fuel savings. PLEASE NOTE - golf carts ONLY! NO quad cycles, motorcycles, pocket bikes, ATV's, etc. Think slow speed and friendly atmosphere!

$105.00 Registration fee!!! ? Registration fee includes 1 Land Rover and as many persons as there are seats! If you trailer your truck in, there is a separate secure area for complimentary parking of the tow rig and trailer.

A quick note on camping: Nelson County health regulations limit any property, including Oakridge Estate, to only 2 ?campers or motor homes?. At this time there is not an event waiver available for this stipulation, hence the ?primitive? camping.
What is OK: Tents, tent trailers (Sanky with tent on top), rooftop tents, conversions without plumbing.
What is not OK: Motor homes, camping trailers, popup campers, etc with plumbing.
If you have a Land Rover conversion such as a Doormobile or Carawagon, please contact me for information on how you will be OK with your vehicle.

I?m sure reservations at nearby campgrounds and motels will go quickly, so reserve early!

Looking forward to seeing everyone there!
 

draaronr

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this should be interesting. I am excited about a new location with new trails, just not to hip on the camping. I was hoping for a little more civil for the sake of the family. It looks like that little white house in the pic has a few shitters. :)
 

Buddy

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I don't mind the camping, although I think its pretty silly for an event this size to not allow campers. Given the amount of people that use them.

The thing I'm not really hip on is the guided trail rides only unless that's changed.
 

lrmike

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I had to use the word 'primitive' to sorta get your attention. We're not talking caves here, just think camping on the island or meadow at Pearl's Pond - no real access for luxury conveyances :)

The little white house does have a few rooms, but it is a bit of a walk - about 2 miles from the site!

Our Rally site IS the horse race track and adjoining fields: Rally Site
 

lrmike

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The camper deal is not our decision but a legal thing with Nelson County Health department. Believe me, we would love to have everyone on site, and yes, there is plenty of room.
 

draaronr

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Buddy said:
I don't mind the camping, although I think its pretty silly for an event this size to not allow campers. Given the amount of people that use them.

The thing I'm not really hip on is the guided trail rides only unless that's changed.


okay wait, guided trail rides? is that for real?
 

lrmike

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Buddy said:
The thing I'm not really hip on is the guided trail rides only unless that's changed.

Sorry, no change there, although I do think many peoples preconception of what a 'guided' trail ride is is unfounded. Have you ever been to an event at Oakridge Estate (ORE)? There are over 40 miles of trails, too many places to get lost, too many chances to really screw up hard. The guides don't tell you what to do or how to wheel (unless you're being a total chucklehead), they just keep things moving safely and efficiently. I currently have things set to allow up to 600 vehicles a day on the trails, and that can be increased if needed.

That would be all moving, not traffic jammed like PP.
 

Buddy

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draaronr said:
okay wait, guided trail rides? is that for real?

I guess you missed that whole big thread over the winter. Last I read unless it has changed there will only be guided trail rides.
 

Buddy

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Ok let me rephrase that. I don't mind "Guided" trail rides as most rides I'm on are guided because I rarely want to take the lead position I prefer to let someone else lead the rides.

What I mean by guided is "Scheduled" trail rides and having to wait for a particular time to hit the trails. Any more details on how often rides will be scheduled? Any chance of smaller groups (5-6 trucks) being able to get a guide at random times. Will there be any night rides available?

I don't think that a lot of these questions got answered last time.
 

lrmike

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Timmy!!!!!!! said:
are the guides driving heeps?

The guides are contracted through Trail Experience, the ONLY people Oakridge entrusts the property to. The guides drive a variety of vehicles, yes, including Jeeps. Think of it this way, in a general group in the USA, what is the percentage of Jeeps vs Land Rovers or Toyotas? That percentage pretty much follows straight through.

They have been given the option of riding or driving our trucks. On the day the decision will be with the Trail Experience guides.

Not afraid of a CJ are you?
 

lrmike

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Buddy said:
Ok let me rephrase that. I don't mind "Guided" trail rides as most rides I'm on are guided because I rarely want to take the lead position I prefer to let someone else lead the rides.

What I mean by guided is "Scheduled" trail rides and having to wait for a particular time to hit the trails. Any more details on how often rides will be scheduled? Any chance of smaller groups (5-6 trucks) being able to get a guide at random times. Will there be any night rides available?

I don't think that a lot of these questions got answered last time.

Many of these questions were left in the air until we finalized contracts.

All rides are scheduled, yes. They have to be unless you like parking lots.

All rides for the MAR 2008 are scheduled for 2 hour duration, leaving at 3 hour intervals. A total of 8 hours of trails each full day (Friday and Saturday) You can participate in as many as you want throughout the event. Unless you keep getting in the same lineup you would never see the same trail twice.

The 2 hour duration was chosen to give everyone the most flexibility as possible.

Negative on the night ops, at least as far as trails are concerned.
 

MC22958

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I have been a trail guide at Oakridge both in my Jeep for Camp Jeep and in my Defender for other events. The trails should offer plenty of fun for all types of equipped Rovers. I have met most of the trail guides that have guided on the trails. All of the people I have talked with have a love for the tail and drive well equipped rigs. I am looking forward to having a lot of fun.
 

Robbie

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i know there will be a lot of moaning and bitching between now and then and even after the event, but i am looking forward to this year's MAR. can't wait. thanks ROAV for making it all happen.
 

emmodg

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I'm gonna go ahead and beat a dead horse here but I have NEVER gotten a straight answer to this: Why was Oak Ridge chosen over The Cove? Did EVERY voting member actually visit AND drive the trails at the Cove BEFORE they voted?

It seems that every other question has been addressed but that one. ANY time I have ever asked someone I get a different answer. And again, I find it interesting that there were VOTING board members at Oak Ridge tagging along on a private event that had never been on the trails there - this was AFTER Oak Ridge had been chosen.
 
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emmodg said:
I'm gonna go ahead and beat a dead horse here but I have NEVER gotten a straight answer to this: Why was Oak Ridge chosen over The Cove? Did EVERY voting member actually visit AND drive the trails at the Cove BEFORE they voted?

It seems that every other question has been addressed but that one. ANY time I have ever asked someone I get a different answer. And again, I find it interesting that there were VOTING board members at Oak Ridge tagging along on a private event that had never been on the trails there - this was AFTER Oak Ridge had been chosen.


Just leave it alone, JB. We already know the answers to all those questions. Let Mike have this thread and allow him to be giddy about it.