Exactly. You take one regular key that you never need otherwise, so it's not on your keychain, and attach or zip it in something. I guess it's isn't as surfer-chic as wearing a black fit-bit thing.
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Exactly. You take one regular key that you never need otherwise, so it's not on your keychain, and attach or zip it in something. I guess it's isn't as surfer-chic as wearing a black fit-bit thing.
I don't understand why anyone would use anything other than InControl. I don't understand why it's taken so long for your smartphone to become your "key" and so much more. I can count the people I know on one hand that don't always have their phone on them.
This too. Especially on a new vehicle. It should be an app on your phone or watch you sync with the vehicle. When you're in proximity you can unlock the doors.
And take a look at this magic!!!
And take a look at this magic!!!
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Security I would guess. When you hit the unlock button on your key it doesn't send the same signal that it sent the last time you pressed it. The signal rolls thru a series of signals that the car knows.
Thieves figured out how to read and then duplicate the signal from your key. That was the answer to that. When the key gets programmed to the vehicle, the pattern of signals is learned. If a thief sends the same signal you just sent, it's not a good signal for the next unlock.
Now, as I learned recently. Thieves have figured out how to duplicate a signal from a key hanging near your door. Possibly getting around the rolling codes. With technology like a wifi repeater we use to extend wifi to the far reaches of our house. Now the vehicle triangulates your location like a GPS system but with two antennas called SAT Transcievers. So now if they try to do that the vehicle won't unlock, cause it can't put a location on the key. Like tailgate, left rear door, pass front door.
Also it's difficult to keep up with the phone software levels. In control will have to update its software to make it work with the latest phone software. It pisses off rich people when the radio won't play a song from their phone. If it didn't open the door they would probably take out a fucking hit on me.
Because there are plenty of times that if you don't want to carry your key, you also don't want to carry your phone. I take neither when I go snorkeling, swimming, or canyoneering, for example.
I think a part of it is all the 3rd party companies that have to work to get in your car. When I go way up north to Iron county Wi, my phone don't work. So your going to need to log on to the internet and get a signal sent to your truck. I agree it's convenient, but that smart key don't need anything that isnt right there with you. Murphy's law kind of thinking.
Your Land Rover will be on AT&T, my phone is on sprint. So there's 2 internet companies that are going to have to have coverage.
Your Land Rover will be on AT&T, my phone is on sprint. So there's 2 internet companies that are going to have to have coverage.
in addition to all the other reasons, that right there broke the camel’s back.
It's a seperate subscription. Thing is, with no subscription you still get some functions. Pretty sure all this lock and unlock, remote start will work with a contract. It's all just extra stupid shit. Car mechanics had to become the cable guy too, and the cell phone expert. Diagnose where the 3G is broken, which SIM card. The vehicle becomes a hotspot , like starbucks.
Like to do what? Interface with a Land Rover? I don't understand cause I would never fuck with any of that shit.
There are 3rd party options. Don't think I'd install one in my 2020 Defender but an older vehicle maybe.
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What regular key? Smart keys aren’t waterproof... there is the key that unlocks the drivers door, but it doesn’t disarm the alarm or start the vehicle. I don’t think you can lock the key in the car without another remote.
Now that's slick. Land rover should have partnered with a company like that and offered that as their activity key. I bet it works on an iWatch or Samsung watch, both of which are waterproof and are far more popular and capable than that LR bracelet.
Not sure how that Mobokey would need to get wired into most modern cars. The actual harness that is hard wired to the door lock is about a foot long and it's inside each door with a lock in it. Lock commands are on the body CAN network, all the way to each door module. When you press the lock button on the door it sends out the lock request on a LIN bus.
I'm thinking it's not as easy as you guys think. Like a '92 Chevy with a wire you can put 12 volts on and open all the doors
I'm thinking it's not as easy as you guys think. Like a '92 Chevy with a wire you can put 12 volts on and open all the doors
I would pay money to watch the first smartkey not found message get diagnosed on this board.
OK, I worded that wrong. I should have said that I don't understand why anyone wouldn't get InControl. Except for the AT&T part. The Mobokey is a better way of accessing the vehicle but I much prefer it to be a factory option. That said a traditional key and an activity key would also be in order.
If it was something Land Rover wanted to do, if they wanted to innovate, they could build it in. All kinds of cars have remote starts installed that will also lock/unlock the doors. If the FOB you hold in your hand can perform these functions, certainly a FOB(or equivalent) can be hardwired in the car, that receives signal from your smartphone and unlocks the vehicle. The people that build this crap for a living should be like "oh yeah, we can do that".