2020 Defender
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The suspension doesn't bother me, and neither do the wheels, so long as the lug pattern supports something smaller.
You know it's at least going to have a hybrid option.
Cheers,
Kennith
There doesn't look to be a whole lot of room between the rotor and the wheel (~1:35 min) to put a smaller wheel on there (without replacing the brakes).
Hadn't thought of that. I wouldn't imagine it would be too easy to find a smaller brake system that doesn't require a bunch of headache.
Depending on how those new electronic systems are set up, it may be nearly impossible if they don't offer a set from the factory.
They might, though. It's possible. They've said they intend this to be the most capable vehicle out there; putting even the G500 to shame. I don't see that happening if 20" wheels are the only option, but this new traction stuff is pretty good, if questionable in regard to reliability.
I still think those bumps on the rear corners look like rivets under the cladding. I doubt they're functional if that's the case, but I still see this managing to look pretty good, at the very least.
If a cloth top for the rear is offered, it could still be a nice general utility vehicle around town.
Cheers,
Kennith
Depending on how those new electronic systems are set up, it may be nearly impossible if they don't offer a set from the factory.
They might, though. It's possible. They've said they intend this to be the most capable vehicle out there; putting even the G500 to shame. I don't see that happening if 20" wheels are the only option, but this new traction stuff is pretty good, if questionable in regard to reliability.
I still think those bumps on the rear corners look like rivets under the cladding. I doubt they're functional if that's the case, but I still see this managing to look pretty good, at the very least.
If a cloth top for the rear is offered, it could still be a nice general utility vehicle around town.
Cheers,
Kennith
You have to understand Rovers definition of "most capable" differs greatly from yours or mine. It will perform GREAT in Moab. All that electronic wizardry will be marvelous in that environment. What it won't be is a Camel Trophy truck or something you want to take in the rocks or mud of unknown depths, etc.
That may well be the case, and that's my issue with the current models.
They're bad as fuck off pavement; but would I take one where I used to spend a lot of time? Well... Yes, but only when new. Later in the game I wouldn't.
I don't see parts actually "breaking" any time soon, but it's all the complication that adds failure points in the future.
Cheers,
Kennith
So the D and the RR in that video share the same single-canister/dual-exit exhaust, so they are on the same platform? Could they be even more similar (same) without the cladding?
Exactly what I want to be doing immediately after buying a new car that is over $50k, swapping out the brakes for smaller ones to fit the size wheel the vehicle should have been offered with in the first place. Not to mention if it's hybrid it probably has regenerative braking systems. Land Rover, specifically Gerry McGovern, is hell bent on the big rim bling look and doing things that way rather than with any logic put towards simple capability. Twenty inch rims have been and will remain a deal breaker for me.
I figured they pulled it upon photography because it defined the shape too much.
Cheers,
Kennith
They were two different vehicles - the short wheelbase had the spare on the rear door - at the end of the video that was a LWB with a different license plate.
You had better be bullshitting me...
If I actually missed that, I need to hang up the keys until I manage to get some real sleep.
Cheers,
Kennith
You nerds are dreaming if you think the next gen is going to be anything other than a vehicle to pick up Winston III at the local prep school. Then possibly be used for their bi-curious "dad" to hit up local REI, to check out the latest sea kayaks and maybe brunch with Phillip, his tennis "partner".
Seriously though. The brand is dead. The latest traction control gizmoids are fine and dandy and will pop the cherries of all those urban warriors, but does little to nothing where you guys talk about driving. You can take an Outback or Tahoe places you'd never expect. So what. I prefer to support brands that have my interests in mind and actually build them. Not some frilly wanna be lifestyle brand that only has a history of what some current brands are creating. Stop living in the past fellas. She's gone and is now a transgender whore living on the streets of St. Paul.
Seriously though. The brand is dead. The latest traction control gizmoids are fine and dandy and will pop the cherries of all those urban warriors, but does little to nothing where you guys talk about driving. You can take an Outback or Tahoe places you'd never expect. So what. I prefer to support brands that have my interests in mind and actually build them. Not some frilly wanna be lifestyle brand that only has a history of what some current brands are creating. Stop living in the past fellas. She's gone and is now a transgender whore living on the streets of St. Paul.
I've got a new Defender on order - to replace the D5, but I'm keeping my old Defender and the two Series trucks for the more difficult off road adventures.
The D5 is a great daily driver/tow vehicle/long trip machine that is very, very comfortable for a 12 hour day behind the wheel. I expect the new Defender to be just as good with the added advantages of shorter overhangs and hopefully better visibility through the windows. Forest Service roads and Back Country Discovery Routes would be what I'm looking to explore in the new Defender. For more difficult terrain I'd be driving my Defender 90 Tdi or one of my Series IIA's.
The D5 is a great daily driver/tow vehicle/long trip machine that is very, very comfortable for a 12 hour day behind the wheel. I expect the new Defender to be just as good with the added advantages of shorter overhangs and hopefully better visibility through the windows. Forest Service roads and Back Country Discovery Routes would be what I'm looking to explore in the new Defender. For more difficult terrain I'd be driving my Defender 90 Tdi or one of my Series IIA's.
We've yet to see it rolling on anything but 19-20" wheels. Worse, sending your new "offroad" product for testing in Moab on 20s is certifiably gay.
Yes but I can load my 88" Series IIA on a trailer and comfortably haul it to wherever I want to go off roading and get 25 mpg doing it - or haul my travel trailer to the National Parks - or do a two day 1000 mile trip to my wife's family in New York on two tanks of fuel very comfortably. It has proven to be a very useful and versatile daily driver - which is primarily what I was using my LR3 for.
The diesel option has proven to be better than I hoped - the D5 is fantastic on the highway, very quiet and comfortable at 80 mph and at highway speeds it gets over 600 miles on a tank of fuel, over 400 miles in around town driving. I admit it doesn't look at nice as the LR4 it replaced but it shows how badly we were shortchanged by not getting the diesel option here in the USA. It does handle and drive better than my LR3 - you can tell it weighs less. So some of the improvements I've experienced if transitioned to the new Defender will be a good thing compared to my old Defender. There is no way I'd ever get my wife to go on a 2000 mile trip in the D-90, let alone go across country in one.
I would like to see an 18" wheel option for the new Defender - but some tire manufacturers are offering more 20" options - as long as there is clearance for tall, skinny tires of some sort I'm good.
And all three of those Land Rovers are diesel so I'm really looking forward to the new Ingenium 6 cylinder diesel.