2020 Defender

DiscoHasBeen

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"Except the TFL team didn't get to drive even the 167 miles of the previous one because while they were having a winch installed (at the Land Rover dealership), the technicians cut through a cable harness that "irreplaceable", making the vehicle "undeliverable"."

 

Eliot

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"Except the TFL team didn't get to drive even the 167 miles of the previous one because while they were having a winch installed (at the Land Rover dealership), the technicians cut through a cable harness that "irreplaceable", making the vehicle "undeliverable"."


You can't replace the wiring harness?
 

Ballah06

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Hmm. Haven't read all the posts in this thread, but actually looked at a couple online video reviews of the new Defender. Hmm, not bad I suppose. Considering something new next year or so. Not really going to wheel, so hmmm. I like how it appears to be not as luxurious as some of their other offerings but with all the electronics though, wondering how maintenance is going to look.
 

ERover82

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Hmm. Haven't read all the posts in this thread, but actually looked at a couple online video reviews of the new Defender. Hmm, not bad I suppose. Considering something new next year or so. Not really going to wheel, so hmmm. I like how it appears to be not as luxurious as some of their other offerings but with all the electronics though, wondering how maintenance is going to look.

That the Defender is even considered an option for those seeking a purely road-bound vehicle, reflects how far off the mark it is.
 

Ballah06

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That the Defender is even considered an option for those seeking a purely road-bound vehicle, reflects how far off the mark it is.

Oh yeah. Well, I'll say, someone looking for an SUV that is not a no crap off-roader but something a bit different style/capability wise... What are our options? Jeep? No thanks. Bronco? Strong possibility. Defender? Hmm. Price point is up there.

Unless I am missing something there really isn't anything remotely exciting within a reasonable price range out there. Plus if I was going to wheel the Defender hard, you figure you are pushing well over $100k by the time you add some goodies. Juuuust a bit steep there for me (well a lot steep). Then there is still in my opinion kind of a certain douche factor for someone who gets that and just goes A to B in it.
 

ERover82

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Oh yeah. Well, I'll say, someone looking for an SUV that is not a no crap off-roader but something a bit different style/capability wise... What are our options? Jeep? No thanks. Bronco? Strong possibility. Defender? Hmm. Price point is up there.

Unless I am missing something there really isn't anything remotely exciting within a reasonable price range out there. Plus if I was going to wheel the Defender hard, you figure you are pushing well over $100k by the time you add some goodies. Juuuust a bit steep there for me (well a lot steep). Then there is still in my opinion kind of a certain douche factor for someone who gets that and just goes A to B in it.

For an on-road SUV, I'd buy a Tahoe, Expedition, or Sequoia. They'll get you through most forest service roads too.
 

Ballah06

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For an on-road SUV, I'd buy a Tahoe, Expedition, or Sequoia. They'll get you through most forest service roads too.

I hear you. Not a fan of any of those. Considered Tahoes but those things are blah and way too expensive for what they are. Going to take an in-person look at Broncos next year.
 

Blueboy

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For an on-road SUV, I'd buy a Tahoe, Expedition, or Sequoia. They'll get you through most forest service roads too.
For me an Audi Q something 3, 5, 7 depending on what size you want.
Quattro system is awesome and great interiors.
Our ski car is a 2004 A4 Avant Quattro. Old enough not to worry about it yet young enough to have what I need.
 

Ballah06

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For me an Audi Q something 3, 5, 7 depending on what size you want.
Quattro system is awesome and great interiors.
Our ski car is a 2004 A4 Avant Quattro. Old enough not to worry about it yet young enough to have what I need.


Yeah they are nice and I loved my A4 and A6 back in the day, but looking for something a bit different. I think Bronco may be the answer.

I mean the Audi SUVs are nice but rather bland imo. Just looking for something that would be a bit less refined and more fun to drive.
 
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Blueboy

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Yeah they are nice and I loved my A4 and A6 back in the day, but looking for something a bit different. I think Bronco may be the answer.

I mean the Audi SUVs are nice but rather bland imo. Just looking for something that would be a bit less refined and more fun to drive.
Yep yet most all are now aren’t they?
For on road manners and typical German handling at decent price tough to beat Audi.
However I’m with you on the new Bronco! Looking forward to the launch.
 

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I think I kinda just decided to buy a 2021 Silverado 2500. It comes in at $40,000 the way I built it on the website. I always wish I still had a pickup truck. I guess it comes down to wanting a Defender and needing a pickup truck.
 

DiscoHasBeen

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I couldn't imagine not having a pickup, even if it's just an as-needed POS. If your a man doing manly things you have to have a pickup.