2020 Defender

ERover82

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I like the Ford system. I leave my keys in the truck 24x7. I enter a key code to get in, and when I leave I press two numbers together to lock it. Nothing to lose or carry around.
 
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fishEH

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Damn that's gimmicky. Who the hell wants to wear that on their wrist? Does it tell time? Tracks steps? Make phone calls? This thing is just as dumb and pointless as their cell phone.

Two options that make more sense.
1) Smartphone/smartwatch app. Everyone carries one, just let it open your doors.
2) A nice, climbing rated carabiner with a built in chip to unlock your doors when in proximity. Keep it clipped to your keys. When "Activity-ing" just unclip it and clip it on your belt loop, backpack, kayak, whatever.


It goes on your wrist like a watch or a Fitbit. You leave your wod of keys in the truck. Get out and within a set timeframe after closing the last door you hold your wrist up to a target on the tailgate. Doors lock. Then when you return to the vehicle you press gate release sw( it won't open) to wake up vehicle. Hold your wrist to the same target and vehicle unlocks.
 

Tugela

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Brett, I liked the solution I saw on a friend's VW Golf Alltrack. The car has a proximity sensor and when the fob is close enough any door can be opened, which is useful if you're carrying stuff. I like your idea better, but I wouldn't make it a fully rated climbing biner. With my luck my partner would leave it at a rap station. Five hours later we're back at the car. "Dude, where's the green Land Rover biner?" "Shit, I think it's three pitches up on the route!"
 

discostew

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Damn that's gimmicky. Who the hell wants to wear that on their wrist? Does it tell time? Tracks steps? Make phone calls? This thing is just as dumb and pointless as their cell phone.

Two options that make more sense.
1) Smartphone/smartwatch app. Everyone carries one, just let it open your doors.
2) A nice, climbing rated carabiner with a built in chip to unlock your doors when in proximity. Keep it clipped to your keys. When "Activity-ing" just unclip it and clip it on your belt loop, backpack, kayak, whatever.
Holly shit Brett. Seems like you just need to hate this truck. You have to actually press the brake pedle to stop the truck, is that going to be a problem?
 

fishEH

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I was thinking it should be green too!!

Brett, I liked the solution I saw on a friend's VW Golf Alltrack. The car has a proximity sensor and when the fob is close enough any door can be opened, which is useful if you're carrying stuff. I like your idea better, but I wouldn't make it a fully rated climbing biner. With my luck my partner would leave it at a rap station. Five hours later we're back at the car. "Dude, where's the green Land Rover biner?" "Shit, I think it's three pitches up on the route!"
 

fishEH

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It just seems like they compensated for not giving a large customer base what they wanted in the Defender, by coming up with gimmicks even less people will want. I really wanted to like the Defender, but I just can't.

Holly shit Brett. Seems like you just need to hate this truck. You have to actually press the brake pedle to stop the truck, is that going to be a problem?
 

fishEH

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Refined, yet rugged.
Less sparkly, though.
Hell, they could anodize the biners to match the vehicle paint scheme!

 

discostew

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It just seems like they compensated for not giving a large customer base what they wanted in the Defender, by coming up with gimmicks even less people will want. I really wanted to like the Defender, but I just can't.
This is thing that can be put on all these cars. Can't remember when it started, maybe 2017? The activity key that is. The passive entry system tugela is talking about I'm pretty sure we've had since 2014.
These systems are made by companies like Siemens and Bosch and pedaled to all the car manufacturers. Sure it starts with the high end cars but eventually trickles down to them all. I was driving next to a Chevy Impala today, it appeared to have passive entry by the look of the door handles.
 

fishEH

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Yeah our 2015 Honda Odyssey has the passive entry. It's nice but certainly nothing new. That bracelet is funny.
This is thing that can be put on all these cars. Can't remember when it started, maybe 2017? The activity key that is. The passive entry system tugela is talking about I'm pretty sure we've had since 2014.
These systems are made by companies like Siemens and Bosch and pedaled to all the car manufacturers. Sure it starts with the high end cars but eventually trickles down to them all. I was driving next to a Chevy Impala today, it appeared to have passive entry by the look of the door handles.
 

ERover82

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This is thing that can be put on all these cars. Can't remember when it started, maybe 2017? The activity key that is. The passive entry system tugela is talking about I'm pretty sure we've had since 2014.
These systems are made by companies like Siemens and Bosch and pedaled to all the car manufacturers. Sure it starts with the high end cars but eventually trickles down to them all. I was driving next to a Chevy Impala today, it appeared to have passive entry by the look of the door handles.

I don't get it. Why isn't a standard key the activity key? They're small, durable, waterproof, never run out of battery, and are cheap to replace. You don't use it all the time so it's not a daily inconvenience.
 

jymmiejamz

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I don't get it. Why isn't a standard key the activity key? They're small, durable, waterproof, never run out of battery, and are cheap to replace. You don't use it all the time so it's not a daily inconvenience.

Smart keys aren’t waterproof.

the activity key is basically so you can go to the beach and leave the keys in the car. I don’t think it’s meant to be an every day thing, just a solution to a minor inconvenience if you don’t want to leave your keys In your bag while you go swimming. It’s been available for a while now on a few JLR products. Very few customers buy it.
 

discostew

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Yeah our 2015 Honda Odyssey has the passive entry. It's nice but certainly nothing new. That bracelet is funny.
I think it's aimed at someone who surfs or swims or whatever would keep him or her far enough from the keys to the truck that someone could take the keys and then the truck.
If you play a sport where you would have to leave your key someplace that it could get taken. So all your shit can stay locked in your truck.
I personally just don't like a wad of keys in my pocket.