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It makes me think... what, exactly, is the depth of water a Range Rover Classic can ford?
The distributor base is not insulated, neither is the opening for vacuum advance lever. I can imagine the fan scooping up water and throwing it all over the engine compartment - killing the ignition way before everything else fails.
I think that depends.. Conditions and skill. Blasting through or driving unevenly, or slow, through water might have different outcomes than entering at a constant speed and creating a bow wave. "We brake for fish" would be on the lower side.

 
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I think that depends.. Conditions and skill. Blasting through or driving unevenly, or slow, through water might have different outcomes than entering at a constant speed and creating a bow wave. "We brake for fish" would be on the lower side.
Bow wave is a nice way to create a water table depression close to the air inlet - but there's not going to be a depression behind a radiator.
 

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Bow wave is a nice way to create a water table depression close to the air inlet - but there's not going to be a depression behind a radiator.
This is how Land Rover drivers showed us how to do it. You punch into the water fast enough to make a bow wake then slow up a bit and stay behind it.
 
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It makes me think... what, exactly, is the depth of water a Range Rover Classic can ford?
The distributor base is not insulated, neither is the opening for vacuum advance lever. I can imagine the fan scooping up water and throwing it all over the engine compartment - killing the ignition way before everything else fails.

I've had my D1 up over the 31" tires a couple times no problem. I don't remember if I ever sealed the distributer cap or not, I probably had it greased it up real good.
 
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It makes me think... what, exactly, is the depth of water a Range Rover Classic can ford?
The distributor base is not insulated, neither is the opening for vacuum advance lever. I can imagine the fan scooping up water and throwing it all over the engine compartment - killing the ignition way before everything else fails.
As I don’t have an owners manual for the RRC, checked the D1 owners manual. It has a section on Wading. The maximum advisable wading depth is 20 inches. Then there is a section that describes what to do if that depth is exceeded. One is make sure the engine air intake is clear of the water. Another is drive slowly into the water and accelerate to a speed which causes a bow wave to form; then maintain that speed. Also fix a plastic sheet in front of the radiator grill to prevent water from soaking the engine and mud from blocking the radiator. Then there is an additional section on what to do after Wading. Pretty cool actually.
 

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Bow wave is a nice way to create a water table depression close to the air inlet - but there's not going to be a depression behind a radiator.
If you scroll down pics on this site it would suggest you are wrong.

I am reluctant to offer advice as to offroading here because most of the conversation involves rock crawling or some form of Overlanding out west. That said I've spent a lot of time in a CJ7 in places some found uncomfortable. Like the time we were almost washed out into the flooded Wabash River. In the day water caused more problems than just getting into the air intake or distributor. Getting into the difs was not uncommon. Cracking the insulator on the plugs was also a problem. Repacking the front wheel bearings was a monthly thing.
 
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If you scroll down pics on this site it would suggest you are wrong.
Not entirely: before I even got to the pics, I've come across this:
  • Disconnect or disable fans if necessary to prevent damage to the fan blades and reduce the amount of water thrown around inside the engine compartment.
Methinks it fully validates my concern. If I planned a trip that involved multiple water crossings, I'd have replaced the engine fan with something electric that could be turned off.
Without the engine fan, it is almost okay to drive headlights-deep - of course the cab will be full of water, but...
 

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I took my D2 through some pretty deep water crossings when I lived in FL. The fan threw some water but not as much as you’d think. The door seals on my D2 were surprisingly good and hardly let any water in
 

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Same fan setup as a D1, mechanical clutch and aux electric. never had problems with it "bending into the radiator" or any other internet lore. Had it up over the headlights a few times.

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Not entirely: before I even got to the pics, I've come across this:
  • Disconnect or disable fans if necessary to prevent damage to the fan blades and reduce the amount of water thrown around inside the engine compartment.
Methinks it fully validates my concern. If I planned a trip that involved multiple water crossings, I'd have replaced the engine fan with something electric that could be turned off.
Without the engine fan, it is almost okay to drive headlights-deep - of course the cab will be full of water, but...
Yeah IDK about the fan thing. I took the CJ into water that was well into the fan level and never had a problem with the fan throwing water onto the engine. Now, to be honest, I was in the driver's seat and not in the engine compartment, so the fan may have in fact thrown water onto the motor, it just never caused me a problem. That has been a long time ago but I would remember being swamped in waist-deep water. The biggest problem was front wheel bearings. I did also crack the insulators on my plugs a couple of times. And, after a long trip through some very deep floodwater, a friend had the rear diff fail on his FJ40. The fluid inside looked just like that muddy flood water as I remember.
 
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GEMS or 14CUX?
14CUX. I don’t remember for sure but I probably had dielectric grease all over the cap and plug wires. I know I changed all that stuff, and I wouldn’t not try to seal it a little. My Jeep’s cap was siliconed to the distributor and breather raised up the firewall with the air intake and all that jazz.
 

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14CUX. I don’t remember for sure but I probably had dielectric grease all over the cap and plug wires. I know I changed all that stuff, and I wouldn’t not try to seal it a little. My Jeep’s cap was siliconed to the distributor and breather raised up the firewall with the air intake and all that jazz.
Awesome. I need to do something good about it.
 

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The dizzy trucks are better IMO. If you get water in there, it pops off in two seconds and you blow it out with WD40 and keep driving.
My GEMS D1 had never, ever, in its 289 kmi, had a misfire until the reluctor ring fell off the flywheel. I never drove in water over the tire, though, but I was never concerned with splashing water over the engine.