All Terrain T/A KO

rmuller

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Hey,

I want to get new tires.. from what i've read on reviews, the BFGoodrich AllTerrain A/T KO's are pretty good. I have 255x65x16 factory right now, and will go to 255x70x16 on a stock disco2.

I found the tires for sale at Costco's for $158/per tire.. it might be actually cheaper than that because costco.com accounst for shipping & handling to the store.. but if they have them in stock, it'll probably be cheaper.

My questions;

1. Anyone run these tires? Any reviews on how they handle on a disco
2. From everything i read, going up to 255x70 should not be a problem at all, but on another board, I read something about tire stores giving the guy trouble for wanting to increase the size, should i expect to get this?
3. Is that price within the range i should expect for these tires?

Thanks!

Ryan
 

utahdog2003

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seems rich. I bought 31/10.5 15s for my Tacoma (265-75/15) and they were 89 bucks. I would expect 16s to be more, but I'm not so sure about 50%!

excellent tire though. Prone to clod with mud, but a good all-round tire.

why tires from Costco? Seems like you could do as well on the price by shopping around the tire joints... unles you get a discount when you buy a 4 gallon can of Beef-A-Roni, a 25 pack of BVDs and a Daewoo DVD/CD/Waffle Iron combo with your tires in a bonanza sale special! :D
 
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campbell

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Tirerack.com has them for $144+shipping, so the price you found does not sound too bad. Do you do much offroading? If you don't do a lot of heavy offroading you may want to look into the Bridgstone Dueler REVO. 255/70/16 are $114/tire on tirerack. Of course they may not look as cool as the T/A KO's...
 

Porter

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Check out Costco's policy. I tried to get non-factory sized tires and they wouldn't put them on. I went with Tirerack and drop shipped them to my local tire shop (recomended by tirerack.com). I've done it twice now, and had great service.
 

MTNHDWR

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I mounted 265/70 R16 BFG AT/KO's on my stock 2000 D2. I ran that way for about 20,000 miles with no rubbing. However, on extreme tight turns off road (articulation) they rubbed slightly. I bought mine from Sam's Club for about $148.00. I had looked at COSTCO but they refused to mount a non-stock tire size.
I now have a 3" RoverTym lift and do a considerable amount of off roading. In my opinion the AT's are great as long as the trail is dry. As soon as it gets wet . . .they pretty much suck. However, on the street they are great and are relatively quiet. If you can handle a little road hum and you plan on serious off road go with the M/T if you want a daily commuter with some off road go with the A/T. Mine have about 40,000 miles on them and look brand new. :cool: :cool:
 

rmuller

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Thanks for all the help guys.. I think I am going to go with Tirerack and get it drop shipped to a local place and get it done. I might go with the Bridgestone Dueler Revo's, not only are they $30 less a piece off the bat, there is also a rebate for $50.00/off when you buy 4 or more. I have to call up the local place and see if they will mount the non-standard tires. Thanks again.
 
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peterca

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Call your local shop first and see if they carry them and get a price. When I did this once with a tire the store doesn't normally carry, I found they could order the exact same tire for less than tirerack with shipping. Worth asking.

pwc
 

Leslie

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What I did....

I just put AT KOs on the wife's Disco.....


I got the price of the tire at Sam's Club, and their cost of mounting/balancing/road hazard. Then, went to the local Sears, and they price-matched the whole kit-n-kaboodle.... easy as pie.


FWIW.....



-L
 

bryno

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I know you were asking about A/T's, but I had concern about size/fitment on my DII recently too. I put on the Dunlop Mud Rovers, Tire Rack for $91, but Discount Tire matched the price and I get a Pro-rated Road Hazzard warranty, even it it occurs off-road. So you may want to check them out as they will match any price.

I chose the 245/75/16's over the 265/75's just to be sure. I have stock suspension, but had disconnected the sway bars for a rally this past weekend. Zero rubbing anywhere and I was in some heavy articulation.

As for the Mud Rovers, they work really well, are not too noisy, grip like stink. and the price is right. I was in East Texas red-iron clay after a 3" thunderstorm the night prior and had no problem keeping up with the more experienced and more modified guys.

Anyway, that is my 2?.
 
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redrover47

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I've had the BFG AT/KOs 255/70 - 16 on my D2 for about 3000 miles and so far they are great. I was warned by the guy at the tire shop that the Dueler ATs which I was also considering have a lower load rating than even the stock GY HPs and may not be adequate for the disco. The 255/70 - 16 Duelers only come in a P (passenger), whereas the BFGs come in LT (light truck). The BFGs are much stiffer than stock and I could definitiely notice this in the corners, which was an improvement on stock. The price to have my tire shop order and mount them was about the same as getting them from tirerack (which had a cheaper price for just the tire), shipping them and having them mounted, so I bought from the tire shop. He was the 4th shop I tried and the first who agreed to mount the tires so I gave him the business. All the other shops said that they wouldn't mount non-stock size and speed rated tires.
 

stevo

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So what tire pressures are you guys with the BFG A/T running on road?
I had 245/75/16 BFG A/T's put on this weekend at Sam's - they inflated them to 65 psi (max pressure is 80 psi on these things) - :eek: WOW! it road like a skate board. I dropped them to 45 psi, was thinking about dropping the front to around 35. Has anyone done the chalk trick to figure out what is the best pressure to get even wear?

Stevo
 
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redrover47

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Well, recommended psi from LR (on the door label) says 28 front, 46 rear. I run them at about 35 front 50 rear, which is still well below the maximum psi for the tire. I was actually wondering the same thing myself. The psi LR recommends I know is too low but I think the psi written on the tire is too high and will affect handling and braking. I know that right after I got the BFGs mounted a noticed an increase in stoppind distance and thought it maybe had to do with increased weight as well as size and higher psi in the front which I think affects braking. Any suggestions?
 

stevo

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I always ran about 30 in the front and 35 or so in the rear for my stockers, but I never had my truck really loaded up.

Well I've heard some arguments that, since LT tires typically have heavier/thicker sidewalls than P tires to carry heavier loads at higher pressures, LT tires tend to create more heat if they are run at lower pressures similar to P rated tires- I'm not sure that I believe this. I figure that excess heat is the result of too much sidewall flex - if you put LT tires on a vehicle that is not carrying a huge load, I can't imagine that it would create a problem. I think uneven tire wear might be a bigger problem. I'm thinking that something around 35-40 in the front and 40-55 in the rear depending upon the load your carrying. I think I'll try the chalk trick this weekend - I'll post my results if they are worth it....lol
 

utahdog2003

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LT tires run at a lower psi do generate lots of heat. Just ask the Explorer owner in the median the next time you're on the interstate. They'll be easy to recognize...just look for the upside down truck!

actually, tire size also has alot to do with heat. I would think that a 255/70R16 LT could handle the duty on a 5000lb truck even with a slightly lower psi, than a 235/75R15 LT (such as the infamous Wilderness ATs that Ford blames on Firestone) on a vehicle of similar weight. So, considering you are actually running a larger tire (than the stock 255/70R16 LT) , with a higher load limit, I would think heat would be no issue as long as you don't drop much below the LR recomendation. Unless of course you stack a palette of cinder blocks on the hood! :) Stability of the truck on the other hand, might be. Remember that manufacturers can use psi as a final means of adjusting the characteristics of the handling of the truck, particularly in an emergency. A 5 psi difference can mean the difference between tuck-and-spin (good) and grab-and-roll (bad...see above Explorer reference)

See the Grassroots Motorsports magazine site at www.grmotorsports.com for info on tire inflation vs heat and handling characteristics. I know those boys in Daytona are fixated on Miatas and little orange cones, but physics is physics.
 
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Brian...

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To air is human...

I usually adjust the pressure in my tires to the load that my truck is carrying or not carrying to maintain the proper tire height. I run 235/85/16 BFG-ATs on my 88 and usually keep them around 40 - 50 psi. This seems to maintain the right tire height and works well on the road.

Brian...
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