April was best month in history for U.S. budget, according to CBO figures

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Good to see the deficit going down from all the new revenue collected due to the tax cuts.

Government borrowing soars despite robust economy

The government spent $895 billion more than it brought in from taxes and other revenue sources during the past 11 months, the Congressional Budget Office said this week, a 33 percent increase from one year before.

Typically, the deficit shrinks during strong economic times, as the need for costly government support wanes and tax revenue rises. In 2000, the last time the unemployment rate was at its current level of 3.9 percent, the government ran a surplus, meaning tax revenue eclipsed all spending.
 

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Facts are not his strong suit, just fire up the base with nonsense and let it roll. They do not care anyway.
Do you think either voting side cares? They don't, as long as their candidate wins and they can validate themselves he or she is doing good according to their own metrics.
 

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I suspect a large number of people in the middle that held their nose and voted for him may sour on his nonsense. His hardcore supporters certainly do not care and that is fine. I imagine if Hilary had won her fans would be similar.
The middle is where the power is in my opinion. I think the empty promises and reckless behavior will lose them, but only time will tell.
 

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It wasn't about holding your nose, it was about a candidate doing what he/she said they would do. Hope and Change. These people you speak of didn't 'hold their nose', they voted for Obama and soaked up 8 years, welcome Trump.
 

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Trade wars are easy.

Over and out: CB radio-maker struggles to adjust to Trump tariffs
?We are looking as fast as possible to find an alternative [manufacturing] place, but we?re dealing with a very unstable situation,? said Cedar vice president Mark Karnes, referring to President Trump?s penchant for issuing policy decisions by tweet. He added: ?As a business, my government just clubbed me over the head.?

More than 80 industry and agricultural groups this month backed a multimillion-dollar campaign, ?Tariffs Hurt the Heartland,? to oppose the White House effort. The groups are holding town-hall events and running advertising arguing that the tariffs are causing job loss and higher prices for consumers.
 

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Trade wars are easy.

Over and out: CB radio-maker struggles to adjust to Trump tariffs
?We are looking as fast as possible to find an alternative [manufacturing] place, but we?re dealing with a very unstable situation,? said Cedar vice president Mark Karnes, referring to President Trump?s penchant for issuing policy decisions by tweet. He added: ?As a business, my government just clubbed me over the head.?

More than 80 industry and agricultural groups this month backed a multimillion-dollar campaign, ?Tariffs Hurt the Heartland,? to oppose the White House effort. The groups are holding town-hall events and running advertising arguing that the tariffs are causing job loss and higher prices for consumers.
Funny you think this only happens when tariffs are increased. At least that's all you're worried about anyway because it suits your narrative. Business is business and the more government gets involved with business the harder it is to have a profitable business. I've been saying this for years.

In July Virginia voted to allow casket sales from 3rd party vendors. Obviously this affects my business. Now you can go to a Wal-Mart, Costco, or 'casket store' and buy a casket in Virginia. I make a profit off caskets and casket sales is what pays my light bills. You see me kicking and screaming? Businesses deal with this type of stuff. Yes, it affects the bottom line. And yes, it make services more expensive for the consumer. Is it Trump's fault?
 

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Funny you think this only happens when tariffs are increased. At least that's all you're worried about anyway because it suits your narrative. Business is business and the more government gets involved with business the harder it is to have a profitable business. I've been saying this for years.

In July Virginia voted to allow casket sales from 3rd party vendors. Obviously this affects my business. Now you can go to a Wal-Mart, Costco, or 'casket store' and buy a casket in Virginia. I make a profit off caskets and casket sales is what pays my light bills. You see me kicking and screaming? Businesses deal with this type of stuff. Yes, it affects the bottom line. And yes, it make services more expensive for the consumer. Is it Trump's fault?
You're too funny. You talk about government getting out of business' business, yet seem to think that the government tacking 25% on to the price of something is just fine and that businesses that complain about it are just trying to score political points.

And boo hoo...you lost your monopoly. Welcome to the free market. Start competing or STFU.
 

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You're too funny. You talk about government getting out of business' business, yet seem to think that the government tacking 25% on to the price of something is just fine and that businesses that complain about it are just trying to score political points.
No, you said that.

And boo hoo...you lost your monopoly. Welcome to the free market. Start competing or STFU.
Start competing? Who am I competing with? You think Wal-Mart and Costco are going to compete with a service based business? You need to take a business 101 course at your local community college.
 

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Chapman said:
In July Virginia voted to allow casket sales from 3rd party vendors. Obviously this affects my business. Now you can go to a Wal-Mart, Costco, or 'casket store' and buy a casket in Virginia. I make a profit off caskets and casket sales is what pays my light bills. You see me kicking and screaming? Businesses deal with this type of stuff. Yes, it affects the bottom line. And yes, it make services more expensive for the consumer. Is it Trump's fault?
And boo hoo...you lost your monopoly. Welcome to the free market. Start competing or STFU.
Man you are just a miserable fuck, aren't you?

Where in Chapman's post is he sounding like a lib by crying and/or bitching about it and screaming it's not fair? Quite the contrary he simply states fact, infers right off the bat that he's not kicking and screaming like a snowflake lib, and he says he's dealing with it.

Your response is completely off the mark and a typical SGaynor / whiny lib (the two are now synonymous) response.
 

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Man you are just a miserable fuck, aren't you?

Where in Chapman's post is he sounding like a lib by crying and/or bitching about it and screaming it's not fair? Quite the contrary he simply states fact, infers right off the bat that he's not kicking and screaming like a snowflake lib, and he says he's dealing with it.

Your response is completely off the mark and a typical SGaynor / whiny lib (the two are now synonymous) response.
Well, since Va saying you can buy a casket other than in a funeral home has absolutely nothing to do with government imposing tariffs (aka, taxes) and raising prices, and how he pointed out it was how he paid his light bill (going to affect his business (presumably adversely)) - I assumed he was bitching about it. Why else bring it up?

I'm a whinny lib for saying free market/trade is a good thing - No tariffs, no monopolies?

OK, RINO.
 

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Well, since Va saying you can buy a casket other than in a funeral home has absolutely nothing to do with government imposing tariffs (aka, taxes) and raising prices, and how he pointed out it was how he paid his light bill (going to affect his business (presumably adversely)) - I assumed he was bitching about it. Why else bring it up?

I'm a whinny lib for saying free market/trade is a good thing - No tariffs, no monopolies?

OK, RINO.
This is your problem, stop assuming.

And you really think the trade deals NAFTA are what not are the poster child of Free Trade? Time for you to open mouth insert foot.
 

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Well, since Va saying you can buy a casket other than in a funeral home has absolutely nothing to do with government imposing tariffs (aka, taxes) and raising prices, and how he pointed out it was how he paid his light bill (going to affect his business (presumably adversely)) - I assumed he was bitching about it. Why else bring it up?

I'm a whinny lib for saying free market/trade is a good thing - No tariffs, no monopolies?

OK, RINO.
Lets say you want cremation and no casket. The way the law was prior to July my basic service fee is $1000 (to keep the math simple). So regardless of burial or cremation, my basic service fee is $1000. If you want a casket or urn that's additional.

I know what my casket sales are and I know what it takes to pay the bills. Those numbers are built into my merchandise sales so I can keep service fees low for those who desire just simple, basic services.

If I start receiving 3rd party merchandise (caskets) I'm losing revenue. The only way to pay the bills is to raise my prices, and in this case it will be my basic service fees becasue I'm going to need to lower my caskets sales in order to be competitive.

So what that means, is folks who desire only basic services such as cremation will now have to pay a higher price because I'm no longer making profits elsewhere. I'll sell casket at wholesale to compete with the box stores and it's the consumer who gets fucked because they're paying a higher service fee. Additionally, it's the local town and the state who get fucked as well because I'm no longer generating sales tax from merchandise sales.

You can apply this same scenario to any trade you want. When government gets involved in business, it makes business more costly to the consumer.
 

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You can apply this same scenario to any trade you want. When government gets involved in business, it makes business more costly to the consumer.
Yep - just like buying a car. Negotiate a low price, but they expect to get you on the trade/finance.

You're not really raising your prices because that $1000 is a fake number - you're going to hit them with the $4000 casket, right? So the total price is $5k (or whatever it is). So, yes - your "services" price may be $1500 now, but you casket will be $3500, right? Same goes for buying tires. How many people buy tires from TireRack.com and have them installed at a local shop - where the didn't buy the tires (obviously). I don't see you complaining about that.

(BTW - I often get the road hazard for free, most likely because I'm buying tires and they are getting their $ that way).

And you are right government got involved - removing a monopoly on casket sales. That helps consumers, hurts funeral homes. Don't try to tell us that it hurts the consumer (or insist that all tires be sold by tire installers).

Again, none of this has anything to do with the government arbitrarily slapping a 25% tax on goods, which is what the tariffs are - a tax to consumers.