Discovery Parts for 92 Range Rover Classic

[Roverless]

Hey Guy's need some assistance. I'm looking at purchasing a 95 Discovery to use as a parts truck for my 92 Classic. Mainly purchasing the Disco to do a 24 spline upgrade and lt230 swap but wondering what else I could use. I was wondering if anybody had swapped interior mainly the center console and parts of the dash. Also wondering what other parts I should swap out or keep as spares before parting out the rest. Also wondering about AC and Heater core. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

 

[ptschram]

None of the heater or A/C will work for you.

Much of the engine/tranny and T-case will be of value to you.

 

[eliaschristeas]

yeah - all the seats/console/engine stuff will work for you. Although you can still use the d1's dizzy, the serpentine belt configuration renders other parts useless - but then again, you can always sell off what you dont use. I just put a 95 rrc's seats in my 91 classic - and by that I mean the mounts for everything will line up nice. And being that the 95 D1 and 95 rrc share so much, you can pretty much steal that whole interior. Post pix when you're done!

 

[Paul Grant]

I'm not exactly sure what you mean when you say that you can steal the whole interior from the DI and use it in a '92 Classic. None of the dash is compatible, nor the console. I think the DI seats would look out of place in a Range Rover and I'm not even sure they would fit. Like PT said, the engine and drivetrain have plenty that will work on a '92 Classic but the interiors are entirely different.

 

[michaels]

sorry not trying to jack your thread, but what is a dizzy? i've seen it mentioned alot in posts lately and felt stupid cause i don't know what that is.

 

[Paul Grant]

Distributor.

 

[eliaschristeas]

the seats DO fit, as does the center console. I toyed with putting disco seats in my classic but decided against it b/c I thought it might look too much like a frankenstein. As for the dash - I didn't include that in my sweeping generalization of "the whole interior," but then again, I've never tried to put a disco assembly in a classic. . . I imagine that with the same basic internal design (location of heater core, evap core, yadda yadda) and some improvised bracketing, one could do it if they had the time and were willing.

. . .the alpine windows would be great on the hood for easy engine viewing, why pop the bonnet to check break fluid when you can have a clear access portal view. . .

 

[ptschram]

Elias:
I beg to differ. The seats are a completely different setup as it relates to mounting to the truck. The RRC has brackets welded to the floor pan and the seats bolt to that bracket with vertical screws going downward. The '95 DI seats mount to a tubular frame that bolts to the floor pan. The seats bolt to the tubular brackets with vertical screws going upward.

Similarly, the console is held to the floor pan completely differently on the Classic versus the Disco.

Door panels won't work as the doors are different sizes and much of the hardware is similar,b ut sufficiently different to render non-interchangeable.

Now anything can be made to fit if one is patient and talented enough, but these parts will not directly interchange.

 

[luvs2getmuddy]

I always wondered if the rear bumper from a Disco could be made to work on a RRC. HMMMM

 

[Gordo]

If it matters, I have a D1 steering box in my 92 RRC. Thanks again Paul G!

 

[Paul Grant]

Elias, I have taken apart enough of these trucks to know that there is no way that putting a Disco I or '95 RRc interior into an earlier RRC would be nothing short of Herculean. Trust me, virtually nothing, from the way the actual dash mounts to the body to the complete wiring harness, is the same. Ask Dom of Land Rover Salvage up in Canada. He's one of the more adventurous fabricators I know and I don't think he ever went much past the planning stage when he considered putting a '95 dash in his older RRC.

It is not a realistic undertaking. There are plenty of other things you could be doing to your Rover that are more important than spending your time attempting to make your old RRC look like a '95. If you want one so badly just sell yours and but a soft dash model.

 

[Colin hughes]

The RRC seats are way more comfortable than the 95 Disco seats. I took 93 RRC seats, front and rear and put them in my 95 Disco. From manual to power, heated seats - nice upgrade and way more comfortable. The rear bolts in perfectly, no modifications required. The RRC front seat rails are wider and need a custom base, I used flat iron, to mate from the Disco seat base to the bottom of the RRC seat. It also puts you slightly higher which might be a disadvantage for a tall person.

 

[eliaschristeas]

hmm - the seats from the 95 were easy enough to install, everything lined right up and that bracket that comes down off the rear of the rails (as opposed to the top down earlier bolt design) required 30 seconds of drilling to mount the rear bolts.

the disco looks even easier to swap - although I'm not interested in doing it to prove a point. I, too have torn enough of these apart to have a good idea of what works and what may not but by looking at the seats on a disco, I'd bet if I tried, they'd line right up.

And remember! I'm not the one that WANTS a disco parts truck for MY rrc. He's wondering what would be useable and in my opinion, a lot. If he's gonna have some fun with it, which we've all done from time to time, go for it!

 

[Paul Grant]

When someone asks:

"I was wondering if anybody had swapped interior mainly the center console and parts of the dash."

And you respond with this advice:

"you can pretty much steal that whole interior"

I don't give a damn about what seats you were able to install in your truck, that's not what he asked. You have never stripped down the interior of either a '92 RRC or a '95 DI and I have on a number of occasions. Attempting to put a DI dash, or console for that matter, into an early RRC would be a task well beyond the vast majority of poster on Dweb and there is nothing you can say that will change my mind.

Just stop and think about rewiring every switch or better yet ;ulling the old harness on the '92 and installing one from a '95 DI. Yeah, that's a simple task. How about fabricating all the different mounts on the bulkhead and console so that everything fits properly. Another easy task.

It's easy to say things like go for it when you don't know what is really involved the undertaking. But, hey, isn't this what these boards are for? Providing a forum for someone who doesn't have a clue.

 

[jeffro0502]

I know for a fact you can atleast steal the floor mats from a d1 and put them in an earlier RRC!

 

[eliaschristeas]

why are you so angy, Paul? If you read his question, he's not looking to take the harness out of a d1. It seems as if he's looking for direct replacement parts from chassis to whatever else in the interior - in which case, yes, the majority is useable. Who the hell would wanna swap an engine management system, yeah, pretty tough to do and maybe not worth it in the end even if you did do it? and that's not what I'm talking about anyway. Maybe I will put my d1's seat in my classic one afternoon just to post the pix for everyone's reference. . . but right now, I'm about to swap out the terrain response from my mom's RRS into my 68IIA. It's pretty much like changing a light bulb. Those series' are amazing. All I need is an obd1 code reader a pitch fork and jb weld.

 

[Paul Grant]

I'm not "angy" but I do take exception when someone says something that is utterly ridiculous like "you can pretty much steal that whole interior" when that is patently false.

Now, if he actually tried to "steal" the whole interior as you so blithely advise, he would very quickly find out that he would have to either substantially modify the existing harness in the '92 or replace it entirely, This is my point, you don't know what you are talking about. Yet, you still continue to go on about what is or is not able to be swapped.

Don't tell me to read the original question! You need to read it and see what he is actually asking. I will paste his question again, "I was wondering if anybody had swapped interior mainly the center console and parts of the dash." He also asked "Also wondering about AC and Heater core. Any insight would be greatly appreciated."
Have you even seen the two heatter boxes side by side? There is nothing in common at all. And yet, you advise him that everything should fit.You are wrong. End of the story.

 

[eliaschristeas]

you still seem angy, for which I am sorry. You quoted the first post beautifully, but let me remind you that in the second post by PT, he spoke about the ac/heater being useless. After which I piggy backed a bit more about other useless stuff and concluded by talking about the INTERIOR.

People have spoken poorly of you before Paul, but to me, it seems as if your dedication is so true, that you are meerly sensitive about a topic we all love. I admire your passion.

As for Roverless, sorry your thread was hijacked with a pissing contest, but to reiterate what I said before, interior, chassis/driveline and engine parts are very interchangeable. If the d1 is the right price, go for it and have fun! Also, you may want to think about going to AB's websites and seeing what parts come up as compatible. In a similar experience, I was excited to find out that bosch engine rocker shafts also fit rrc's. It was useful to me because a used dII rockershaft my possible cure a ticking that I'm going after. Anyway, good luck!

 

[Paul Grant]

WTF do you mean " People have spoken poorly of you before?" Now I am angry you little shithead. Just becausd you don't know your ass from your elbow you want to get into it with me. Fuck off and learn a little about the shit before you say stupid things like you have in this thread.

 

[ptschram]

but to reiterate what I said before, interior, chassis/driveline and engine parts are very interchangeable.

ELias:
I was gonna stay out of this pissing match as it was quite obvious you were completely ignorant of what you were saying.

I have thought hard and long about what interior parts would interchange and have come to the conclusion that there are more parts that are not interchangeable than those that are interchangeable.

The console is not interchangeable.

The heater/A/C and controls are not easily interchangeable.

The dashboard is not interchangeable as the bulkhead superstructures are completely different.

Turn signal, headlight, windshield wiper switches would not be interchangeable without significant rewiring. The ignition lock would not be interchangeable again without significant rewiring.

As for the engine, the '95 has a serpentine engine, the '92, multi-vee belts. Even the distributors aren't interchangeable, the alternators are not directly interchangeable, the water pumps and A/C compressors are not interchangeable. The transfer cases are not identical, but interchangeable with some work. The diffs in the '92 are ten spline, the '95 has 24 splines and ABS that is completely different than that in the '92. The CVs are also different, but interchangeable.

To be completely honest, there are as many differences as there are similarities. If a person is not completely familiar with both vehicles, it is unlikely that person would be able to conduct swaps from one to the next. Unlike you, Paul and I are sufficiently cognizant of the similarities and differences that WE could likely do it, but I doubt you could.

Sometimes, it is best to sit back and be quiet when being called out as you might just find yourself being proven to be ignorant of what others may be more knowledgeable.

PT

ps-Paul Grant spoken badly of? Yeah, right! Pull the other leg!