Glock vs Sig

Ballah06

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Screw the Sig and the Glock, just get one of these. Made by Arsenal. Available in a local Green Top for, oh a mere $5k or so.

 

stu454

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Uggh. The new Bond movie is already defiled

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gage092879

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I've seen one break and had one break myself; admittedly due to unusual circumstances, and nothing you'd normally encounter in use, but they aren't immune to damage. Any polymer pistol would have broken. They just happened to be Glocks.

Anything can fail if put through enough punishment.

These are tough pistols, but much like the AK, they won't live up to the legend that's been built around them if one pushes them to that point.

They are still good bush pistols, though; perhaps some of the best. Very popular, for many of the reasons people quote, and would certainly fit the requested bill in this thread.

I'm glad you mentioned the accuracy (precision, really), because it's surprisingly good. Still, most pistols are precise enough for most people. I've only found one that was less precise than me, and it was defective. Every other pistol I've handled could out-shoot anything I'm capable of.

I'll also note that while it's not the brightest in the world, the control design of the Glock weapon light is perhaps the best I've ever used. An X300 is superior from a light perspective, but that Glock unit is simply a far better design.

Cheers,

Kennith

yes i understand everything breaks at some point, but it is two words to mean that they are tough. i also understand the precision part. everyone has an opinion and i have carried a few pistols over the years and have shot a little bit and for me i go with the glock. like i said before, go with what the op like as he is going to get a million different opinions. i just happen to be lucky enough to have seen many pistols and other guns for that matter proven or not in my world. cheers, c
 

Ballah06

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yes i understand everything breaks at some point, but it is two words to mean that they are tough. i also understand the precision part. everyone has an opinion and i have carried a few pistols over the years and have shot a little bit and for me i go with the glock. like i said before, go with what the op like as he is going to get a million different opinions. i just happen to be lucky enough to have seen many pistols and other guns for that matter proven or not in my world. cheers, c


Now now, air soft guns don't count... :patriot:
 

Ballah06

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Does that make it twice as reliable, or twice as unreliable as a standard 1911?

Twice as deadly comrade. Twice as deadly...

P.S. Like Boris (Snatch) said, "...weight is the sign of reliability..." "If it doesn't vork, you can always hit him with it."
 

kennith

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Increasingly I'm seeing them on the market for the surefire lights-which is what I went with since I've trusted them for many other applications and Glock does great pistols but I was skeptical of their lights.

Another option is making your own if you want kydex. Trial and error, but it's yours to modify as you see fit. That's what I'm using at the moment, older shot but you get the point.


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It's no X300, but an X300 with Glock controls would be the amazing. They are far more sensible in operation, and easier to install and remove for cleaning.

The lights are fine from a quality point of view, but they don't have that Surefire punch. A flash from either in dim lighting conditions will identify a target and blind it, though.

Cheers,

Kennith
 

kennith

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I'm not saying that this pertains to you, cause obviously I don't know you, but most pistols are very accurate. People that complain about the accuracy of their pistol are usually the problem and not the gun. The shooters trigger pull and sight picture are usually to blame. "Shooting Missology" and "Fighting Pistol" by James Yeager of Tactical Response are good videos to watch.

You're absolutely right.

Precision from the design itself is largely irrelevant. Most firearms will out-shoot most people at expected ranges, unless that weapon is defective. I'm no different.

Consider this: Every man-portable weapon in the military is a "used" weapon. They are scratched up, worn, and have seen thousands of rounds; well-maintained, but certainly not as precise as a brand new, carefully sculpted civilian model.

Professional or enthusiast target shooters are the only people that need to worry about that stuff. Everyone else just needs to find something that works for their own skeletal geometry and level of training. Beyond that, it's a matter of overall quality and desired features.

You're going to find more difference in chamber on one pistol than you will on pistols chambered for the same cartridge from two different quality manufacturers with the same barrel length and action.

Cheers,

Kennith
 

kennith

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Kennith, I thought about the GLOCK brand light and laser but price and using the rail are limiting factors for me. The innerspring laser sight and no light may be the direction I go. Were you able to holster (or find a holster) that will work with the rail occupied?

I bought the ones without the laser, as I don't much care for visible lasers, but I was able to find Fobus products that supported the units I had. I haven't looked lately, though. There may be more.

Cheers,

Kennith
 

rovercanus

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You're absolutely right.



Consider this: Every man-portable weapon in the military is a "used" weapon. They are scratched up, worn, and have seen thousands of rounds; well-maintained, but certainly not as precise as a brand new, carefully sculpted civilian model.


Cheers,

Kennith
Ok then, forget tupperware and go with a Beretta M9. Accurate, will eat anything you can feed it and when open carried it's big enough to say "leave me alone and go find a sheep".
I usually open carry an 8040 Mini Cougar, it's surprising how most people don't even notice it's there.
Now let's all get into the "element of surprise" from the cc only crowd.:smilelol:
 

Ballah06

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Ok then, forget tupperware and go with a Beretta M9. Accurate, will eat anything you can feed it and when open carried it's big enough to say "leave me alone and go find a sheep".
I usually open carry an 8040 Mini Cougar, it's surprising how most people don't even notice it's there.
Now let's all get into the "element of surprise" from the cc only crowd.:smilelol:

Personally I do not see a point to open carry in public, especially having a ccw. Not sure what you mean by the "element of surprise," (if I have to draw a firearm it is not to surprise someone but rather mitigate a situation for which there is no other recourse) but why would one want to let others know he/she has a weapon on them? We are not exactly in a combat zone here. If someone intends to do something bad to you, exposed gun or not, they may still go for it. I would rather not broadcast to the world that I am armed; after all that is a tool of last resort and I want to keep it concealed until there is a need to use it. Train with it from concealment, so presentation is not an issue.