Hauled home the "new" Series IIA 109 NADA

Highmile

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This past Saturday, I made the trek down to Alamosa, Colorado to pick up my first Land Rover Series IIA. The Discovery did a decent job of pulling this truck over the pass and back to Colorado Springs (approximately 225 miles door to door). Anytime I tried to get the Discovery to exceed 55 mph, the trailer would start to wag the Discovery, so 52 mph was the more comfortable speed. I actually had better gas mileage pulling the trailer and Series than I did driving down with no trailer, but I think that has more to do with driving 75-80 mph vs. 52 mph.

We stopped to snap some pictures along the route at the top of La Veta Pass and in front of the Spanish Peaks outside the town of La Veta. All in all, it was an uneventful trip without any mishaps, which is a good thing if you ask me.

The original $1250 deal was done on a handshake last weekend, and after all the purchase paperwork and money exchange was done yesterday, the seller informed me that somebody tried to buy the truck out from under me for $3000. Lucky for me, the seller was an upstanding person and honored his handshake!

The Series is #329 of the 811 Land Rover Series IIA 109 NADA 6 cylinder Station Wagons. Truck does not currently run, but since the truck came with a spare engine, I?ll probably attempt to get this one running before I look into any engine conversions. I don?t want to throw a lot of money at the 6 cylinder engine.

The interior is very complete, though ragged, and there is only some very minor surface rust on the frame and none on the bulkhead. I am sure my posting on this forum will go up with tons of questions and maybe some answers for others.

Thanks!
 

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dsstephens

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Nice.

I'm jealous of your garage. My 2 car garage has that center pillar. In order to work on my truck in the winter I have to pull it in, put it on dollies, slide it over and then put it on stands in the middle. Reverse process to test drive. Not fun.
 

lrsafari

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CONGRATS!

I did a frame off on my '60 109" 5 Door a few years ago. Was good therpy at the time.

Buy many boxes of 1/4"x20x1" stainless bolts/washers/nuts. Your gonna' need 'em :)

Looks like a great deal you got on the truck. from here, looks complet and basicly straight.

Scott
 

OddBall...wolf...wolf

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Yea u-haul car trailer behind discos does mean less than 55 mph. We ended up doing the same thing when we picked up the beast from Ga to Va. it was a 14 hr run coming back. We now have built a car trailer to haul it on so cruzin 60 to 80 loaded is not a problem as well as a Chevy 3500 to pull it. Nice deal on your new truck.
 

Highmile

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Colorado Springs, CO
The seller gave me all his extra parts and pieces to the truck that I'm not even sure where to begin to inventory. There are tons of little boxes and parts everywhere. Screws of all sorts, various rear hitches, fold down steps, extra seat cushions and frames, various extra engine pieces, tons of new weatherstripping, extra IIA front grille opening (maybe use this as wall art?), even the storage tray that fits under the center seat opening above the transmission (apparently these are hard to find).

I haven't had a chance to really take a closer look at the mechanicals of the truck since bring it home, but I do have a question. Currently, there does not appear to be a way to stop the truck. There is no hydraulic fluid in the truck so the brake pedal just goes to the floor and does not stop. I can push the shifter into gears, but this does not keep the truck from rolling. It looks like the clutch is also on the same hydraulic system as the brakes. Could it be that the clutch is not working and allowing the transmission to actually change gears in the transmission?
 

luvs2getmuddy

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Looks like a good project ! Good luck!
Very Lucky the seller didnt resell it under ya. I kno for the difference in money, I woul dhave sold it for the 3k in a blink, sorry to say!

Keep us updated, I love seeing project work.
 

JackW

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Highmile said:
I haven't had a chance to really take a closer look at the mechanicals of the truck since bring it home, but I do have a question. Currently, there does not appear to be a way to stop the truck. There is no hydraulic fluid in the truck so the brake pedal just goes to the floor and does not stop. I can push the shifter into gears, but this does not keep the truck from rolling. It looks like the clutch is also on the same hydraulic system as the brakes. Could it be that the clutch is not working and allowing the transmission to actually change gears in the transmission?

Plan on completely replacing all components of the brake system - they are sort of important - especially the rubber hoses.

Check to make sure the transfer case isn't in neutral - push lever with red knob forward and put truck in gear - if it still rolls you may have a broken rear axle so try pulling red knob backward and see if the truck will roll now. The clutch is a seperate system but it feeds off a common reservoir for the brake fluid. You'll see an inner tube if you take off the reservoir cap and look inside - that's the clutch reservoir.

Congratulations on the new truck - you got a great deal!!!
 

Highmile

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Colorado Springs, CO
Does anybody have an original Land Rover Owners Manual for one of these old Series IIA trucks that they might be willing to sell or even give away? I have the "green bibles", the haynes manual, and another green Rover maintenance book that all came with the truck, but I do not have an Owners Manual that might remind me of how to originally operate the truck. What exactly do all the color coded levers do and in which sequence do you need to push and pull them.

So, LRNationals, are you saying that the Discovery won't wag when it is the truck being hauled on a trailer being pulled by a Ford F250? or that I should have loaded the truck facing backwards?

Thanks!
 

LRNationals

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who knows? !!! i found it easier with the cars on backwards. and that disco will not wag any longer. we pulled off the parts that we needed and the rest is campbell soup cans. lol...
 
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enonz98lr

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Ron said:
Bag and tag everything you take off and put it on shelves that are labeled by area of the truck.

yeah thats what im doing, i started tearing down my 73 SIII 88 today....anyone know how many bolts hold down the rear tub? im going to pull that tommarow and put it on the new frame:cool:
 

Ron

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The tub is held on by the obvious bolts at the back and then there are either four (or eight) holding it on in the front that are on the tabs on the outriggers (SIII may have two tabs per outrigger, I forget). Then it has to be seperated from the seat box and there are a ton there. The seat belt lower mounts are the real buggers as they are always rusted. Personally, I prefer to leave the seat box attached and seperate it by pulling the floor boards and the sills from the bulkhead. Very few "hidden" bolts on a land rover. It is 9/10 what you see is all you have to remove.

My plan of attack is usually to get the entire body off in the following order:

1. Doors and hood.
2. Top
3. Windscreen
4. Front fenders
5. Floorboards/tunnel cover
6. Rear tub and seatbox as one unit with sills attached
7. Breakfast
8. Bulkhead

Then disassemble the rear tub assembly and take everything off the bulkhead.
 

Michael Slade

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Whatever you do, don't paint it. Faded Poppyseed Red is my all time favorite color on a Rover...especially a series.

The 6-cyl is actually a pretty decent engine if you get it running well. I've driven a NADA wagon and it wasn't half-bad... Course, this was when I owned a 109 SW with the 2.25 in it, so anything was an upgrade.

Very nice find, good price. I was probably one of the ones who told you not to buy it. I've changed my mind, you can go ahead and buy it now. :D
 

Highmile

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Colorado Springs, CO
I?m a little torn on the painting issue. I like the patina of the poppy red, but unfortunately, a previous owner had started to sand some portions of the hood and roof to bare aluminum, and obviously tried painting the front fenders which, of course, do not match the patina of the original paint. I like the patina red, but I do not like the mismatch of colors. Since the inside was covered with the original door panels and floor mats, the red paint inside is bright and flawless.

Does anybody have a good picture of a poppy red 109 wagon?