INEOS Grenadier

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Tugela

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According to the British press the skies are cloudy for Grenadier. Interesting discussion of how the "no frills" concept evolved to the "luxury 4x4" that the Grenadier is becoming (has become?).


Shame about the Fusilier, that was something I was keen to see. Hopefully the company can soldier on.
 
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According to the British press the skies are cloudy for Grenadier. Interesting discussion of how the "no frills" concept evolved to the "luxury 4x4" that the Grenadier is becoming (has become?).

I didn't realize recaro is going out of business, nor how big a deal a seat is due to crash tests.
 

Tugela

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did they ever offer glass in the alpine windows, or just those tie down bars?

I thought pre-production versions had glass, but now I can't find photos of any. If someone created an aftermarket glass kit that didn't leak, I bet it would be a popular item.
 

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The people that Californians complain about, instead of complaining about Californians like normal Americans.
Why, we commiserate with them in summer.
But the funny part is - with roughly equal amount of sunshine, the proportion of SoCal vehicles with clear windows is probably 10x higher than in Arizona.
Another observation that always baffled me is popularity of black vehicles in AZ.
 

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Arizona used to be a lot different than California. Now the only real difference is that Uhauls with California plates stack up in Arizona....and now our politics has a severe flavor of California self-destruction.

And not again with the window tint! Try living for months in a row at 110+ degrees. For Christ's sake, it's still pushing 110 out here through next week. You're in the 60s and 70s. It's all these SUVs from California moving to AZ and bringing their global warming with them.
 
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Arizona used to be a lot different than California. Now the only real difference is that Uhauls with California plates stack up in Arizona....and now our politics has a severe flavor of California self-destruction.

And not again with the window tint! Try living for months in a row at 110+ degrees. For Christ's sake, it's still pushing 110 out here through next week. You're in the 60s and 70s. It's all these SUVs from California moving to AZ and bringing their global warming with them.
Bill, is my observation about black vehicles reasonable?