Looking at a 2013 LR4 - main areas of concern?

[umbertob]

I'm more concerned with finding a vehicle that has a proper service history vs a rear locker. I'm finding most have zero records of proper oil change history. They take it to the dealer for warranty coverage and that's it.

You really lucked out Blue.

Oil and filter changes on these engines using a vacuum pump are so easy and mess-free, I suspect many owners may do them in their garage in 10 minutes, rather than paying megabucks to a dealer or even big bucks to an indy shop, so finding records may be difficult for higher mileage LR4s besides the first freebie LR used to offer at 15K miles. Most of the mandatory "major" services - at least up to 60k miles - were little more than glorified oil changes anyway. Also, Land Rover recommended 15K-mile intervals between oil changes for the V8 LR4 (I believe they extended that interval even further when the SCV6 engine replaced the V8 in 2014), which were too many miles to begin with for most of us, so a "proper" oil change history is no guarantee the engine isn't half shot. I did my own oil and filter changes religiously every 7500 miles using Mobil 1 EP - another problem is finding the exact Castrol oil LR recommends, nearly impossible outside of a dealer for $15/qt - so my service record from a dealer would definitely be spotty... But I have 225K miles on my 2013 and the engine still purrs like a kitten. Good luck in your search!

 

[discostew]

Stew, you are wrong.
Transverse-mount motors and Bronco Sport are irrelevant.
Traction control uses brakes to control wheelspin. That's the only thing that mattered here.
Stability control uses traction control to rein in yaw oscillations, that's fine. But it likely doesn't even wake up in slow cross-axled crawl conditions.

yeah ok,your right.

 

[discostew]

Tonight I'll get some help posting the section I want to show you from the service manual. Your correct in that small window of function of stopping wheel slip. I guess the point I'm trying to make is that that is a very simplified description. There is a shit ton more decisions being made by other computers monitoring lateral accelorometers, yaw rate sensors, throttle position and steering wheel angles and the speed the steering wheel is turning.
I've got to hit the road for work and my IT department is sleeping in today. He will help me post the system description and operation to google drive. I think you'll like reading it and see what I'm talking about. But yes with the stability switched off, it becomes the simple system you describe. And I was wrong about the order that actions are taken. According to the chapter I'll post it requests engine torque reduction and trans shifts AFTER trying to save you with ABS.

 

[p m]

Stew, I have it open in front of me, for reasons other than traction control and DSC.

 

[ERover82]

Came for the pics, stayed for the cranky old guys bickering over the intricacies of their Kardashian wagons.

 

[Blue]

I think Stew is arguing in favor of "6" and Peter is arguing in favor of "half dozen"!

 

[Blue]

who said silver isn't a color?!!!

 

[p m]

Have a very similar picture, only in white

 

[Blue]

White’s not a color either!

 

[p m]

 

[gimebakmybulits]

White’s not a color either!

That's racist

 

[Ian95rrc]

Is a 2019 D5 any more or less reliable than a 2012-013 LR4? The major issue with the D5 seems to be the windshield leak, but that would be covered under warranty for awhile. I prefer the LR4, but trying to find one with lower miles is proving difficult.

 

[Blue]

Is a 2019 D5 any more or less reliable than a 2012-013 LR4? The major issue with the D5 seems to be the windshield leak, but that would be covered under warranty for awhile. I prefer the LR4, but trying to find one with lower miles is proving difficult.

They are out there....

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[discostew]

The D5 seems to be holding up pretty well. Once the winshield is resealed it's not a problem anymore. It takes a good glass guy to get it out without breaking it, but I got a guy who gets them out every time, used to have a guy who broke them every time.

 

[Ian95rrc]

Thanks Blue. I might need to break my streak of only owning white rovers. To me it's the only color, but gotta give somewhere..

 

[Blue]

I had a white D1 with tan interior and my D2 is silver with black and my LR4 is a darker silver with black. I’ve really come to love the black interior and the silver exterior helps hide pinstripes.

 

[ERover82]

For anyone else in the market, consider this one. Has nearly every package available.
https://www.jordanmotorsport.com/vehicle-details/01f7dd99dda73f4ca7e800c2e573645f

 

[Blue]

Just like mine, except I’m Orkney Grey with black lacquer trim and rear DVDs. Mine had 69,100 miles and was priced at $25,995.

 

[Blue]

Quick question......

How does one keep the stereo on when camping? Like turning the key one notch to the accessory setting in the good old days?

When I shut the LR4 down and then hit the start button with no foot on the gas, all electrics come on including HVAC, all dash lights, and I assume fuel pump is running....

In my D2 you could simply push the stereo button for one hour of “on” with no keys in the ignition. I was able to get the stereo to activate in the LR4 by pushing the button but it’s on for about 5 minutes.

Good thing they fixed a problem that didn’t exist with these stupid push button ignition systems. I sure wish they included a place to store the “keys” where they wouldn’t get lost. Maybe I should invent a little a slot by the steering wheel where you could inset a key and just let them hang there. Hmmmm...

 

[umbertob]

Perhaps there is a relay somewhere to jump and get constant power to the head unit of the infotainment system? On other forums we identified and bypassed the one controlling the 12v sockets in the car (which also turn off a couple of minutes after the ignition otherwise), but don't think anyone has found a solution for the radio staying on for just 5 minutes or so. Regarding the keyless ignition... Eventually you'll like it. Not having to fish for the remote in your pocket to lock or unlock the car is something that takes a while to appreciate.