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discostew

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No thats not whats about to happen. But it is fun to say that kind of shit, I know. JLR is going to shed 2,000 salaried employees. But nothing from production.
 

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I do think these are moves that are intended to make the company ready for a sale. I was told that Jaguar was becoming a drain on proffits and the cut in production could be on that side, maybe. I wonder if the projects they say they will hold off on are the new Range Rover and the new Range Rover Sport.

JLR got rocked by the new laws about internal cumbustion engine in Europe. They built a big engine factory and spent a shit ton of money on Diesel Technology and what have you, then the EU dropped that bomb.
 

DiscoHasBeen

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Be that as it may, the production news is the least of your worries. What are you going to do when that mook brings his electric RRS in for repairs?
 

DiscoHasBeen

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The same thing I do when they bring in an IPace I suppose. Fix the fucking thing.
Because you have all the right equipment on hand and your tech's have all the training they need? So yeah, I understand they'll get fixed, but it seems there is a certain amount of retooling, retraining that will need to be done.
 

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So with all the electric vehicles projected to be running around Western Europe, they will be depending on he 56 nuclear power stations of France to recharge when the weather turns bollox. And that big Russian gas pipeline coming to the land of the Krauts. Good luck with that one.
 
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DiscoHasBeen

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It's a fantasy
That very well may be true, but it's a fantasy that a certain side of the political spectrum is going to try to legislate into existence. Everything that I read/hear from that "side" is we are not doing enough to develop green energy because it's too easy to rely on fossil fuel. The answer to that is to legislate fossil fuels out of existence. It's just a matter of how many trillions and trillions of dollars are going to be spent trying to make GE work. We were checking the property last week with the radio tuned to NPR (not my choice). They were interviewing some woman about what it's going to take to make GE readily available. She stated people are just going to have to change their attitude about certain things. An example, there are thousands of square miles of empty desert which can be covered with solar panels and wind turbines. She understands nobody likes high voltage power lines running everywhere but they're going to have to accept them so we can supply the country with all that energy. It was ironic the environmental devastation she was willing to impose in the name of clean energy.
 
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That very well may be true, but it's a fantasy that a certain side of the political spectrum is going to try to legislate into existence. Everything that I read/hear from that "side" is we are not doing enough to develop green energy because it's too easy to rely on fossil fuel. The answer to that is to legislate fossil fuels out of existence. It's just a matter of how many trillions and trillions of dollars are going to be spent trying to make GE work. We were checking the property last week with the radio tuned to NPR (not my choice). They were interviewing some woman about what it's going to take to make GE readily available. She stated people are just going to have to change their attitude about certain things. An example, there are thousands of square miles of empty desert which can be covered with solar panels and wind turbines. She understands nobody likes high voltage power lines running everywhere but they're going to have to accept them so we can supply the country with all that energy. It was ironic the environmental devastation she was will to impose in the name of clean energy.

Politicians are incredibly short sighted, they don’t see past their pocket, or the next election.

My worry is that they’ll push these mandates through - and then ten years down the pike, the policy will collapse, because of the technical issues, and the massive investment required in the power grid.

But yeah - these people are neo luddites. Like the 20th century socialists, they want everyone wearing burlap sacks and eating grass. I think they would be totally okay with an economic collapse.

I can only hope that the car manufacturers are investing in a backup option.
 

Eliot

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A good example of this is the way France adopted that diesel tax, after spending twenty or thirty years pushing diesel cars on the poorest people in France.

They got fucked overnight - suddenly they couldn’t afford to drive their cars, and they couldn’t sell them either - because they value or their cars had also dropped overnight.

It screwed the farmers too.
 

Blueboy

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From the article:

"We are reducing the complexity of our vehicles massively. The result will be that fewer things going wrong because the process will not be as complex," Bollore commented.

And this wasn’t considered when designing the new Defender?
 
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DiscoHasBeen

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From the article:

"We are reducing the complexity of our vehicles massively. The result will be that fewer things going wrong because the process will not be as complex," Bollore commented.

And this wasn’t considered when designing the new Defender?
Could the writing be on the wall for Gerry McGovern? I mean if you are blaming complexity for costing you 100k in sales a year and this man was the lead designer of the most complex vehicle you've ever brought to production......
 

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Could the writing be on the wall for Gerry McGovern? I mean if you are blaming complexity for costing you 100k in sales a year and this man was the lead designer of the most complex vehicle you've ever brought to production......
Yep, my thoughts as well. Especially with the supposedly pinnacle off road vehicle. This was my comment from the beginning - too complex.
 

Blue

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That very well may be true, but it's a fantasy that a certain side of the political spectrum is going to try to legislate into existence. Everything that I read/hear from that "side" is we are not doing enough to develop green energy because it's too easy to rely on fossil fuel. The answer to that is to legislate fossil fuels out of existence. It's just a matter of how many trillions and trillions of dollars are going to be spent trying to make GE work. We were checking the property last week with the radio tuned to NPR (not my choice). They were interviewing some woman about what it's going to take to make GE readily available. She stated people are just going to have to change their attitude about certain things. An example, there are thousands of square miles of empty desert which can be covered with solar panels and wind turbines. She understands nobody likes high voltage power lines running everywhere but they're going to have to accept them so we can supply the country with all that energy. It was ironic the environmental devastation she was willing to impose in the name of clean energy.

Cover our desert out here with solar and windmills and they'll be used as target practice.

I'm glad you pointed out the irony of this bitch willing to destroy certain environments to save the environment she thinks needs saving.
 

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Companies like Land Rover hire and release constantly. Many of the people are employed by subcontractors.

If there was a poll, I'd vote Gerry McGovern be let go.
 
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