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Butch

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Let me first start off by stating myself that I'm a dumb ass. Now that that's out of the way, here is the problem.

I was replacing my viscous fan tonight and wound up busting one of the blades off. Here lies the problem. I need the truck for work in the morning. I am trying to crazy glue the blade back on, but I dont think that will hold, let alone be safe. Can I run the truck with the one busted blade? It is the 11 blade type...well now 10.

What took so long is I had to drill out the bolts to separate the two, not to mention half my tools are in boxes from moving and the other half were ravaged by two teenage boys! :banghead:

Here's a tip: Let your vehicle warm up after pulling it in from 15 degree weather!
 

marc olivares

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youre not the first person to do this.
short answer is yes you can run without a fan blade.
dont super glue, it will fail. been there too
get a new fan asap, and keep driving to a min.
but yes you can go for a bit with a broken blade.
i have done this with out any ill effect.
 
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varova87

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marc olivares said:
but yes you can go for a bit with a broken blade.
i have done this with out any ill affect.

x2. been there, just get it replaced asap. and you'll notice it's gone, too.
 

varova87

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Andrew Homan said:
Marc does he even need to run the fan for an Alaskan winter?

possible. International makes a few models of their trucks that you can actually disengage the viscous. they claim it helps keep the engine warm in cold weather, and even provides better fuel economy becuase the power normally going to the viscous is now usable. i cant imagine that being enough power to make a difference.

EDIT: found a link. http://www.internationaldelivers.com/assets/pdf/dyk253.pdf
 

marc olivares

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Andrew Homan said:
Marc does he even need to run the fan for an Alaskan winter?

yeah, being in anchorage i would still run a fan.
ANC really doesnt get that cold, respectively.
he could get away without a fan for a bit, again if it was cold out.
but even at that, i'd keep city driving and idling to a min.
 

Drillbit

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I have known people who ran fans that were messed up for long periods of time without bad effects. I have also sold the same type of people new engines. Don't glue the blade on, it will end up in your radiator. Your fan with 10 blades will be fine till the next one shows up but don't wait to order it. I have one if you need it. Let me know.
 

Butch

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I appreciate all the quick reply's, but I'm out of luck for the night. I put it all back together and the viscous fan, a Hayden 2626, hits the fan shroud on the bottom. I didn't even bother putting the top half of it on. I was half tempted to just take the it off, but I figured I would just take the part back to the store tomorrow and get a refund and try to find a used setup locally.

From what I read, the Hayden 2626 was a good replacement to use. It crosses over from the Imperial 215157, which we cannot get here in Alaska. When I started the truck up to move it out of the garage, it was much quieter without the fan!

Thanks again guys.
 

marc olivares

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that's odd, your one of the first to have a 2626 not fit, are you sure your shroud is on correctly? i put a Hayden 2786 in mine with zero clearance issues.
 

Butch

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The fan was rubbing on the lower shroud. I even tried to readjust the shroud. Maybe I'll give it one more shot tomorrow after work. I might have to tweak the shroud some.


I must be getting tired...I said shroud like 15 times in 3 sentences!
 
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rovercanus

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Your fan rubbing on the shroud can also be a sign of bad motor mounts. Might give them a quick look if the re-fit doesn't work.
 

Butch

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How else can I check for bad bad motor mounts besides looking for cracks/pieces of rubber missing from them? If I remember correctly, you can rev the engine while parked and see if the engine moves around more than usual under the load. I'll check them when I get home from work today as well.
 
I'm gonna be the lone man out here. I do not think it is a good idea to run a damaged fan missing a blade for any length of time. The imbalance will accelerate water pump bearing wear and you could also end up with the rest of the fan breaking apart at the most inopportune time. I'd run without it before I'd run a busted fan.

I'm very curious how a fan clutch could result in the fan hitting the shroud.
 

crown14

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ptschram said:
I'm gonna be the lone man out here. I do not think it is a good idea to run a damaged fan missing a blade for any length of time. The imbalance will accelerate water pump bearing wear and you could also end up with the rest of the fan breaking apart at the most inopportune time. I'd run without it before I'd run a busted fan.

I'm very curious how a fan clutch could result in the fan hitting the shroud.

1000% agree, I have had to fix too many of these where the water pump failed and the fan swung around (taking out radiator, hoses, etc) or where the fan EXPLODED (taking out rad, hoses, PAS lines, trans lines, AND the hood) so I would just go without the fan rather than ever driving with a broken one.
 

kaz

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excuse a novice interjecting; how about breaking a blade on the opposite side to balance the fan out, in emergency situation?

And a related (to cooling) question. I recently bought a 5-speed D1 (broken differ and other problems), the owner claimed that during winter he had to put a sceen on a grill because truck would run cold. Does that make any sense?
 

HunterAK

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Roving Beetle said:
If you need a stock fan from a 2000 D2 I have one - shipping costs and it's yours.

I have the clutch part too if you need. :)

Take him up on this Butch. If not, call Wallace (service manager) at Land Rover in Anchorage, now Kendall Auto Group or whatever. I think he has a D2 parts car and you may be able to get a used fan from him.
 
kaz said:
excuse a novice interjecting; how about breaking a blade on the opposite side to balance the fan out, in emergency situation?

There are an odd number of blades on the fan. Also, I don't want a fan with possible cracks spinning around in the engine compartment.
kaz said:
And a related (to cooling) question. I recently bought a 5-speed D1 (broken differ and other problems), the owner claimed that during winter he had to put a sceen on a grill because truck would run cold. Does that make any sense?

There is probably something not working correctly in the cooling system, consider replacing the thermostat first.
 

HunterAK

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Wait, you have a Disco I right? It says 98 in your profile. Are the fans the same in the DII? I thought the 2626 was a DII replacement option. Also, F THE SHROUD! ahahha... I don't have mine on.
 

kaz

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There are an odd number of blades on the fan. Also, I don't want a fan with possible cracks spinning around in the engine compartment.
OK, my mistake, didn't notice 10 blades remaining after 1 broke off.
But talking of a lesser evil in emergency situation, even if it's not 180 degeers symmetrical and you have to drive..?