New tires on my LR4

[bri]

During online "research" I saw that someone had some steering "stops/spacers" that you can use to limit steering.

Are the only drawbacks that you rub and can damage tires and limit turning radius? Not that much different than running larger tires on D1.

Any idea how much more wear there is on the EAS with extending it?

What drops you tothe bump stops? I assume that is lower than access height. Let us know how it rubs at access height.

Not to promote another site, but landroverworld.org is really active. I think somewhere on there people have rigged an emergency air connector to fill bags if it dumps to the bump stops. This and the GAP tool are likely my first additions. WTF with the pro version, that is pricey.

 

[Blue]

Total malfunction of EAS or massive leak drops to the stops. The idea is that if your tires are rubbing in the wheel wells when dropped to the bump stops then you are stuck. True, but it’s also not like you’re going to drive out of a trail for miles if you’re on your bump stops but your tires still roll freely. Anyone who’s driven 25 feet on bumps knows that ain’t happening.

Will drive while I’m at access height and also use GAP tool to drop to bumps and see how much fun that is. I already know it rolls fine at access but not sure how turns & bumps will be.

Lucky 8 is having a Wesley Snipes Friday sale coming up soon with GAP tool on sale.

 

[Howski]

Not that it’s full proof but a GAP tool can get you out of a lot of those air suspension binds. Of course no replacement for having spares in the case of outright failure of a bag/line/compressor.

 

[bri]

Not that it’s full proof but a GAP tool can get you out of a lot of those air suspension binds. Of course no replacement for having spares in the case of outright failure of a bag/line/compressor.

So a spare bag and line and some way to get air to the bags other than the stock compressor?

Do Arnott bags have any advantage on LR4?

 

[Howski]

If you want to cover all your bases. I’ll bring some air line + push-to-connect fittings, and an old (but working) compressor.

Arnott’s had a bad run a few years ago but I’ve heard they’ve turned it around. I’m running the AB bags which are solid but factory bags are probably the best

 

[bri]

If you want to cover all your bases. I’ll bring some air line + push-to-connect fittings, and an old (but working) compressor.

Arnott’s had a bad run a few years ago but I’ve heard they’ve turned it around. I’m running the AB bags which are solid but factory bags are probably the best

I have Arnott on P38 for 12 years pretty good.

 

[bri]

Total malfunction of EAS or massive leak drops to the stops. The idea is that if your tires are rubbing in the wheel wells when dropped to the bump stops then you are stuck. True, but it’s also not like you’re going to drive out of a trail for miles if you’re on your bump stops but your tires still roll freely. Anyone who’s driven 25 feet on bumps knows that ain’t happening.

Will drive while I’m at access height and also use GAP tool to drop to bumps and see how much fun that is. I already know it rolls fine at access but not sure how turns & bumps will be.

Lucky 8 is having a Wesley Snipes Friday sale coming up soon with GAP tool on sale.

Hmm.... It's $528 now what is the sale price?

Here are the steering spacers that I mentioned.

Land Rover Discovery steering stops : ProSpeed

Machined aluminum spacer used to limit the amount of steering lock on a Discovery 3 and 4 Primarily used when bigger off road tyres are combined with certain rims, preventing tyre rub inside the wheel arches Fits between the steering arm drumsticks and the steering rack...

prospeed-group.co.uk

 

[Casey Pontes]

I run 265/70r18 Falken Wildpeak tires on my LR3. Load Range E. I use a 30mm wheel spacer. I’m not certain that wheel spacers are necessary. I also chopped my front frame horns, so no rubbing there.

The tires have worked well for me. I air down to 20psi (in my LR3) regularly while 4wheeling. Wish I had more tire sidewall, but we don’t have many options for LR3s due to the constraints of our 18in wheels.

Narrower tires fit better; however, wheel type/size also matter.

Rear heater hoses need to be relocated, as well (if you’re running larger tires).

 

[Blue]

Hmm.... It's $528 now what is the sale price?

Here are the steering spacers that I mentioned.

Land Rover Discovery steering stops : ProSpeed

Machined aluminum spacer used to limit the amount of steering lock on a Discovery 3 and 4 Primarily used when bigger off road tyres are combined with certain rims, preventing tyre rub inside the wheel arches Fits between the steering arm drumsticks and the steering rack...

prospeed-group.co.uk

I saw an ad, maybe it was an emailed ad, that had the GAP tool at about $450 or so.

Those steering stops look pretty simple. Could probably find something at the local hardware store to do the same job. Or just not turn your steering wheel so far.

 

[Blue]

I'll chop my frame horns some day when I have a couple hours to kill.

 

[MM3846]

I'll chop my frame horns some day when I have a couple hours to kill.

cut and modify them, they’re there to keep the tire from intruding into the passenger compartment, and push the truck outward (away) from a crash. Most cars got them after they started testing front offset collisions.

 

[DiscoHasBeen]

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That's a good looking truck there Blue.

 

[bri]

cut and modify them, they’re there to keep the tire from intruding into the passenger compartment, and push the truck outward (away) from a crash. Most cars got them after they started testing front offset collisions.

So for those that put minimal miles on our vehicles with little chance of collision there may be no real reason for them?

 

[Blue]

Looking at the horns, you could cut them back a couple inches and weld a flat plate on the end mimicking the stock outward angle of the horn.

 

[Blue]

That's a good looking truck there Blue.

Thank you.

 

[MM3846]

So for those that put minimal miles on our vehicles with little chance of collision there may be no real reason for them?

Just saying what they're for. That's up to you to decide.

 

[Blue]

I run 265/70r18 Falken Wildpeak tires on my LR3. Load Range E. I use a 30mm wheel spacer. I’m not certain that wheel spacers are necessary. I also chopped my front frame horns, so no rubbing there.

The tires have worked well for me. I air down to 20psi (in my LR3) regularly while 4wheeling. Wish I had more tire sidewall, but we don’t have many options for LR3s due to the constraints of our 18in wheels.

Narrower tires fit better; however, wheel type/size also matter.

Rear heater hoses need to be relocated, as well (if you’re running larger tires).

Question - did the 30mm spacers cause any problems with fender flare & tire clearance? I'm also researching rerouting the rear coolant lines (heater hoses) and flattening that metal fin. Right now I'm only rubbing occasionally in the rear passenger wheel well, forward of the tire, when I'm in standard height but I want to be prepared.

I also found a picture of a cut front "frame horn". Welding a little piece of flat steel over the hole and grinding everything smooth should do the trick.



Frame horn before (mine, you can see the area where paint has rubbed off)

 

[Blue]

Hello rear passenger wheel well. Seems as though I have rubbed a bit. Even at +25mm on the X-Lifter setting. I think that's the metal fin that protects the coolant hoses showing through the hole. It would appear that 275/65/18 is a bit too big. Thankfully I have some time this week to fuck with it. Going to shave front frame horns and see about re-routing rear passenger coolant lines. I may also go out in the desert and spin the fuck out of these tires for a half hour or so and shave an eighth or so off.

 

[Blue]

Hmm.... It's $528 now what is the sale price?

Here are the steering spacers that I mentioned.

Land Rover Discovery steering stops : ProSpeed

Machined aluminum spacer used to limit the amount of steering lock on a Discovery 3 and 4 Primarily used when bigger off road tyres are combined with certain rims, preventing tyre rub inside the wheel arches Fits between the steering arm drumsticks and the steering rack...

prospeed-group.co.uk

 

[MM3846]

Hello rear passenger wheel well. Seems as though I have rubbed a bit. Even at +25mm on the X-Lifter setting. I think that's the metal fin that protects the coolant hoses showing through the hole. It would appear that 275/65/18 is a bit too big. Thankfully I have some time this week to fuck with it. Going to shave front frame horns and see about re-routing rear passenger coolant lines. I may also go out in the desert and spin the fuck out of these tires for a half hour or so and shave an eighth or so off.




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Its not too bad of a job to relocate the lines, post 14 has photos.

LR3/4 Rear AC Line relocation

I have used the search function to no avail and only seen mention of relocation of the rear ac lines in the passenger rear wheel well on the LR3/4 relocation. Is there a DIY guide somewhere for this? I know where the lines are but have not pulled the fender liner yet and am trying to get an...

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