New tires on my LR4

bri

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Not necessarily. I'm between the same 285 or 265. Was leaning towards 285 before posting but now leaning towards 265.

Here's the 265/75/16 I saw at RoverTechs:

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Compared to my current 285/60/18:

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Compared to 285/60/18 Nitto Ridge Grapplers on my wheels on the previous owner's (Umberto's) truck:

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RE: 265/75R16..... is that right?

I like the compomotives less and less every time I see them.
 

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265/65/18

The Compomotives are 18" wheels. 18 is the smallest you can go with these big brakes.

I'm not sure which wheels Errant has - maybe Tuffants? I'm sure they're 18s though. There aren't many choices for aftermarket wheels for the LR4. You can also run 18" LR3 wheels but you also need spacers.
 

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The Compomotives on my truck are the same wheels on the red truck of which I posted a picture. The red LR4 is Umberto's and he traded it in on a new Defender. I bought his wheels and had them powder coated a dark grey.
 

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Besides the Compos you have:

Tuffants (multiple versions alloy and steel)
Evo Corse Dakars
OZ Rally Raid and Rally Racing
Rotiform STLs
 

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Not necessarily. I'm between the same 285 or 265. Was leaning towards 285 before posting but now leaning towards 265.

Here's the 265/75/16 I saw at RoverTechs:

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Compared to my current 285/60/18:

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Compared to 285/60/18 Nitto Ridge Grapplers on my wheels on the previous owner's (Umberto's) truck:

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A narrower tire will provide better traction in a lot of circumstances, especially on hard terrain. Think about it, a wide tire divides your vehicles weight over a wider area, giving it less pounds per sq inch, which equals less traction. And you may not think so, but it really does make a difference.
 
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Think about it, a wide tire divides your vehicles weight over a wider area, giving it less pounds per sq inch, which equals less traction.
It is a loaded subject.
High contact pressure means potentially higher motive force a wheel can offer - if tire and terrain shear resistance is way more than the contact pressure times friction coefficient, it's all good. However, it is not always a case. Cornering on pavement while on 7.50R16s is vastly different than that on 255/65R16s. Likewise, if the terrain can't offer much shear resistance, narrow tires don't buy you anything. That's why mud and sand runners love wide tires.

If the loose surface isn't very deep, narrow tires win. Otherwise, go Blue :)
 

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A narrower tire will provide better traction in a lot of circumstances, especially on hard terrain. Think about it, a wide tire divides your vehicles weight over a wider area, giving it less pounds per sq inch, which equals less traction. And you may not think so, but it really does make a difference.

So a 1" wide tire with 1 sq in contact is better/best?

All depends on conditions.

Its contact area not ppsi, and its all compromise with your vehicle on size.

I have Always liked skinny tho.

Does hard be difficult or "firm"
 
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MM3846

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none of those I listed require adapters or spacers, but you want to all of your wildest dreams can come true.

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I'm pretty are black rhino has a set that bolts on, too. and redbourne makes LR specific 20s and 18s.
 

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none of those I listed require adapters or spacers, but you want to all of your wildest dreams can come true.

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I'm pretty are black rhino has a set that bolts on, too. and redbourne makes LR specific 20s and 18s.

I will attempt to keep tires and wheels in the well as much as possible.

What I was implying was keeping LR wheels, but use spacers.

But I guess with LR4 19 is smallest?
 
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I will attempt to keep tires and wheels in the well as much as possible.

What I was implying was keeping LR wheels, but use spacers.

But I guess with LR4 19 is smallest?

oh, ya. If you want to use LR 18s you need to grind the calipers and use spacers (unless you use the new defender steelies). I'd rather have 20s than 19s, way more tire options. If you're spending the money on wheels, buy a set of good aftermarket 18s.
 

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265/65/18

The Compomotives are 18" wheels. 18 is the smallest you can go with these big brakes.

I'm not sure which wheels Errant has - maybe Tuffants? I'm sure they're 18s though. There aren't many choices for aftermarket wheels for the LR4. You can also run 18" LR3 wheels but you also need spacers.
Yes, mine are TuffAnts
 

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It is a loaded subject.
High contact pressure means potentially higher motive force a wheel can offer - if tire and terrain shear resistance is way more than the contact pressure times friction coefficient, it's all good. However, it is not always a case. Cornering on pavement while on 7.50R16s is vastly different than that on 255/65R16s. Likewise, if the terrain can't offer much shear resistance, narrow tires don't buy you anything. That's why mud and sand runners love wide tires.

If the loose surface isn't very deep, narrow tires win. Otherwise, go Blue :)
Such is my dilemma with getting stuck in bottomless sand & gravel, which is where I spend a lot of my time. Compounding the issue is the 18-inch diameter wheel lower limit, thus not very good opportunity for airing down. If I was only driving on hard rock or gravel then I would have kept my OEM 19-inch wheels, slapped a set of 255/60/19 BFG ATs on them, and called it a day.
 

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Such is my dilemma with getting stuck in bottomless sand & gravel, which is where I spend a lot of my time. Compounding the issue is the 18-inch diameter wheel lower limit, thus not very good opportunity for airing down. If I was only driving on hard rock or gravel then I would have kept my OEM 19-inch wheels, slapped a set of 255/60/19 BFG ATs on them, and called it a day.
What lower limit? I run my 255/60-19s at 15-18psi in the sand all summer.
 
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I don't know if the General Grabber ATX is the best tire, but I use them on both of my sand race Jeeps and my LR4. On the LR4 I run 285/60/18 General Grabber ATXs. Rubbing is limited to hard braking at lock or reversing at lock at normal height. These tires are very smooth, awesome in sand, and have reinforced sidewalls. The frame horns that the tires rub on could be removed pretty easily, but I have not got around to it yet.

One of my few gripes about the LR4 is its weight. This size ATX has an E load range and the stiffness makes the truck very responsive on the street for its size. My race Jeeps are used in rally-esque races mixing asphalt and lots of sand. Since I use my LR4 as a long distance cruiser that can go anywhere in the sand, I chose the same tire.

When it's cold outside I get the faintest shimmy in the wheel until the tires warm up. Given the weight of the truck, I think its just the price I pay for E range tires with reinforced sidewalls.
 

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What lower limit? I run my 255/60-19s at 15-18psi in the sand all summer.
18-inch wheel being the lower limit, or smallest diameter wheel. Doesn’t leave a lot of sidewall when aired down.
 

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What lower limit? I run my 255/60-19s at 15-18psi in the sand all summer.
I also air down on my 19” wheels, though usually only down to 24 psi or so. It’s the tire options that are really the benefit because you’re only getting 1/2” of additional sidewall
 

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So a 1" wide tire with 1 sq in contact is better/best?

All depends on conditions.

Its contact area not ppsi, and its all compromise with your vehicle on size.

I have Always liked skinny tho.

Does hard be difficult or "firm"
 
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