Picked up a cheap L322, worth replacing the D2

discostew

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Yea fuck that as a diagnostic method. Guy that sold it installed new chinese CPS which obviously didnt fix the code. Vanos solenoid on pass side looks suspect. Rusted and leaking oil. I'm going to pull the suspect one out to see if its sticking and maybe switch them. Could a timing tensioner throw that code too? May pull that to see if its stuck.

Again, no rattling at startup this morning, started tapping a little after 30 seconds of running then quieted down once warm. The engine sound really good to be honest, idles well and has plenty of power. I'm not ruling out chain guides yet though.

Since it's only picking on bank 1 cam being to far advanced I think it's not timed correctly. If you don't have to get an emissions test just drive the fucker. Probly never do anything but throw the light. If you do need a test find a BMW tech who does side work and show it to him. Timing these engines is a really strange procedure and easy to mess up.
 

capri_auto

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Since it's only picking on bank 1 cam being to far advanced I think it's not timed correctly. If you don't have to get an emissions test just drive the fucker. Probly never do anything but throw the light. If you do need a test find a BMW tech who does side work and show it to him. Timing these engines is a really strange procedure and easy to mess up.


Yea I'm going to need to get it inspected... one way or another...
 

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I have an 05 RR; around 145,000 miles right now.
Replaced the alternator, pain in the ass.
Who the FUCK water-cools an alternator?
Replaced the radiator, pin-hole leaks on the engine side.
Pain in the ass for the same reason; having to remove the fan.
Done some basic repairs on it, nothing special.
ZERO engine troubles.
Front diff recall was done on mine before I got it. i don't remember how you can tell, but it's possible to determine just by looking at it.
Currently, the lower rear gate won't open and the reverse lights don't work.
Likely a ground issue going to the lower gate.
Haven't had time to fuck with it, so I don't use reverse, I just drive forward over everything. :)

And MY balls are chill, bitchez. Don't need no external cooling.

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I park it on the street. The snow plow guys put a nice big bank of snow in front of it last year when they were doing their thing.
I came out to leave for work, they saw me and asked if I wanted them to remove the snow bank in front of the Rover.
"Nah, I'm good."
They laughed & gave me thumbs-up when I just went up and over the packed snow. I guess they were more accustomed to Lexus and other wannabe bitchmobiles that can't get drive over their own shadows without getting stuck.

I've used it to push vehicles with crappy tires on icy roads & pull several vehicles out of roadside ditches during the winter.
I really like that car.
 

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I pulled that Vanos solenoid yesterday. Jumped it and it clicked so it should be ok. One of the bolts holes for the vanos flange seems to be stripped which explains the leak. Going to have to sort that out at some point. I decided to step back away from the p0011 code. Today I wanted to deal with the fuel gauge issue, throwing a p0463.

I almost had a fuckin heart attack. Go to start the truck today and key wont turn. MOTHER FUCKER... WHY do I buy these turds??? Started reading online about what the possible causes may be and almost every cause was $$$ or required a trip to the stealer. 3 hours later I realized that when I was fucking with the key fob the night before, the little black "spacer" I left out was actually the immobilizer chip. HAHA, I'm done for the day after that. One thing I learned from wrenching on cars over the last 13 years is walk away when you get too frustrated, otherwise bad shit can happen.

Shit happens.

Jim any Vanos noise coming from your engine at all?
 
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jim-00-4.6

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Only engine noise is a little rattly sound on first start-up, goes away in a couple seconds.
I always assumed it was cuz the oil drained down while parked.

Speaking of oil...
When you change the oil, then start it up to run a minute or three before shutting down and confirming the level...
Do not, under any circumstances, leave the oil fill cap off when the engine is running.
Or, go ahead and do it. :)

Remove the cap & look in there. As you can see, right inside the cap is a chain.
Which throws oil the fuck over the place if the cap's not on.
I learned the hard way.
Through the miracle of the internets, you won't have to do the same stupid thing I did.
 

discostew

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Only engine noise is a little rattly sound on first start-up, goes away in a couple seconds.
I always assumed it was cuz the oil drained down

Sometimes you can fix that by getting an oil filter from BMW. Someone told me they have a filter with a valve in it to stop that draining down. If that doesn't fix it then it's a vvt more than likely. I remember doing a lot of those when they still had warranty coverage.
They still are the same capable truck as the trucks with the jag engines. Climb over just about anything. Just expensive as hell to keep running. The audio system is a cluster fuck.
 

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Do not, under any circumstances, leave the oil fill cap off when the engine is running.

BMW's overly complicated crank vent vacum system.....well, the M62 is already a simplified version just a huge spring operate the valve diagram at the back of the intake. When you look at those BMW L6 engine, it is just a pain with all those plastic vacuum lines hide below the intake manifold and will neither be block by oil sludge and /or the plastic crack or leaks.
 

discostew

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BMW's overly complicated crank vent vacum system.....well, the M62 is already a simplified version just a huge spring operate the valve diagram at the back of the intake. When you look at those BMW L6 engine, it is just a pain with all those plastic vacuum lines hide below the intake manifold and will neither be block by oil sludge and /or the plastic crack or leaks.

he said to never leave that cap off because the chain will sling oil out that hole like a fountain. He's absolutely correct. Sounds like he learned it the hard way. Same way I did.
 

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he said to never leave that cap off because the chain will sling oil out that hole like a fountain. He's absolutely correct. Sounds like he learned it the hard way. Same way I did.

Oh, the oil splash all over the thing, I thought he meant the disturbing the vacuum.
 

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2006 is the BEST year of l322. Jag motor and none of the MOST ring issues. Only drawback is no cooled seats and cup holder BLOWS.
 

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2006 is the BEST year of l322. Jag motor and none of the MOST ring issues. Only drawback is no cooled seats and cup holder BLOWS.

2006 is the most affordable GOOD L322. But it's a fucked up year with systems not getting along, The instrument cluster always fucks up when you try to reset the service interval. We call it the bastard year. Still get the fucked up Steering column security issues, though not as many as the pre 06's.

Forgot to mention that one. Steering column lock ECU causing the key not to turn in the ignition. Needs a steering column at close to $7,000. There's a way around that but it's so fucked up I don't like doing it for customers.
 

capri_auto

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I read about the steering column ecu issue when I left the chip out of the FOB. Whats the work around? If I'm going to keep the truck, I'd like to prevent that from fucking me in the future if possible. Any way for you to look up if the front diff recall was done on this truck?


From what I read about the m62 (taken with a grain of salt). Noise immediately at startup is chain guides. Taping once warm is vanos. Worn vanos seals is possibly the reason for the p0011. I'm going to do a oil and filter change and go from there. Who knows when this guy changed the oil last.

Thanks for tip about the oil cap Jim. I almost actually opened it when the truck was running a few days ago then stopped myself haha.

I have to say my first impressions of the truck are pretty good. I like the D2 a little better though. D2 has much better ground clearance which makes it easier to work on without a lift. I do like the look and features of the RR better. Both my trucks are Giverny green. I wasn't a fan of the color when I got the D2 but it grew on me. The RR is super clean underneath, except the trans pan which is flaking rust. Its need to be taken care of before it rots through. Is this common?
 
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discostew

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Be careful what you read on the internet. When a 5.0 makes noise on start up and it goes away quickly I usually suspect that one of the tensioners is stuck inside of the bore and oil psi finally slams it out against the blade. When a VVT is noisy it's a very distinct noise that goes away quickly. If the thing was ticking all the time once warm I would suspect a guide or something else.
If the steering column lock is causing your key to not turn here is what I would do if it was mine. First do a hard reset and while your hooking up the battery, have a second person in the car turning the key. MOST times you will be able to turn the key while the system is booting up. If you get the key turned then you will be able to break the locking part of the lock cylinder off the back of the lock cylinder. Then leave the steering column lock ECU unplugged and it will probably start and run after that.
 

capri_auto

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Can you do that steering column "fix" as a preventative measure? I'm going to do an oil change and try to pinpoint the tapping with the stethoscope this weekend. I started it up this morning and the tapping seems to be coming from pass side valve cover. If I can get the p0011 code cleared I'll register and put some miles on it. May have to re-time it... Blown head gaskets and slipped liners, vanos seals and chain guides.... all the same bullshit in my book.
 

discostew

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I wouldn't. It's hacking at it's finest. If nobody had that thing apart i guess it could be the VVT. Especially since you said you hear a rapping on cold start. Get a P.O. box here in 60034 and register it here. We don't do emissions testing cause we're very rural.

Pass side is bank 1. Isn't that the side its picking on?