Power Steering Conversion?

ERover82

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A few guys, can't remember who, were working on conversion kits to convert to the Saginaw pump or another type. Did this get anywhere?
 
I was going to, but current generation D1 owners are some of the cheapest people out there.

heres what I'm releasing.

http://www.flemcodesign.com/saginawbracket.zip

Make money off of it and I kill you.

pump face spacer is .369". I forget the bracket spacer length and I'm not near the truck to measure

I like. Might allow sufficient clearance for the HEI distributors I have without having to butcher the OE PAS pump mount.

Personally, I think the aftermarket pumps are cheap enough to make the conversion less than economic.
 

robertf

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Its not meant for economy, its for big tires. Id never do this to my stock disco.

Don't move the pump, its designed for a stock length belt and steering hoses. That's more part numbers to remember
 

ERover82

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Thanks. I'd probably buy one. How much?

I assume it's the same you're running. Any problems/compromises?

How are you handling the hoses? Custom?

It seems like a great way to reduce complexity of hoses and remote reservoir. Correct?
 

robertf

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Stock pressure line, slightly contoured. I'm still running a reservoir and added a cooler, though a internal reservoir would work fine. Ill be adding a ram soon and need the volume.

No compromises, works better with the 35"s on the rocks. Its steerable with the front locker engaged, well, kind of.

For the stock one, its a mall crawler beauty queen. I'm not even sure the cdl works. The stock pump gets the job done fine just fine
 

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I have converted my white D1 to an integral-reservoir Saginaw pump after a Utah trip in May. About 3500 miles later, it runs beautifully, and the steering wheel is just a touch light.
I have a parts list, but no drawing for the bracket. Whatever we made worked well, but I think the bracket could be a lot simpler.
 

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fishEH

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I have converted my white D1 to an integral-reservoir Saginaw pump after a Utah trip in May. About 3500 miles later, it runs beautifully, and the steering wheel is just a touch light.
I have a parts list, but no drawing for the bracket. Whatever we made worked well, but I think the bracket could be a lot simpler.
That looks pretty sweet! Any more details on this, what all was involved to make it work?
 

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Pump from GM Direct, a pulley, a couple of hoses with -6 fittings, a longer 6-rib belt, and the bracket. The bracket took us longer to build than I'd have hacked with an angle grinder, but it does look nice.
Things to watch out for: clearance from the exhaust manifold, and space between the pump and the steering box. It will definitely be more difficult to adjust the play in the box. I also f'd up measuring the new belt length, so it took one extra trip to AutoZone.
 

fishEH

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Pump from GM Direct, a pulley, a couple of hoses with -6 fittings, a longer 6-rib belt, and the bracket. The bracket took us longer to build than I'd have hacked with an angle grinder, but it does look nice.
Things to watch out for: clearance from the exhaust manifold, and space between the pump and the steering box. It will definitely be more difficult to adjust the play in the box. I also f'd up measuring the new belt length, so it took one extra trip to AutoZone.

I'm glad you mentioned the angle grinder. I don't have "a water jet guy" but I am handy with the angle grinder.
I have headers so maybe clearance would be better?
Do you recall what pulley you used?
 

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I'm glad you mentioned the angle grinder. I don't have "a water jet guy" but I am handy with the angle grinder.
I have headers so maybe clearance would be better?
Do you recall what pulley you used?

Headers - I don't think there will be much of a difference; one thing we had to play with is how far to drive the pulley up on the pump shaft.
Pulley - GM PART # 12605677.
 

cdansan

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Here is my Saginaw pump conversion. Not sure what the pump came off of, it was on a spare engine in my shed.




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cdansan

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Yes it is. It was an oil cooler from some motorcycle, I found it in the bottom of a toolbox.
I used the existing mounting bracket from the pump and made spacers to attach to the flat plate.
It is not quite rigid enough yet.
Also remember when you do this that most GM pumps use 6 rib belts, not 7 like factory rover.
I used a 2" longer than factory belt.
Pulley alignment is the most time consuming part.
 

cdansan

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Not sure if it necessary to have the cooler, but I had it and it was easy to do at the same time.
it is difficult to turn the 38" swampers when stationary, I am hoping this will make it better.
 

fishEH

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Not sure if it necessary to have the cooler, but I had it and it was easy to do at the same time.
it is difficult to turn the 38" swampers when stationary, I am hoping this will make it better.
So even with the Saginaw its hard to turn the wheels stationary? Is there a noticeable improvement over stock though?
 

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You can also turn up the flow and pressure on a stock (or GM) pump by removing the plunger, drilling it out, and spacing the spring. I turn 37s with mine.