Rebuild front drive shaft or buy Tom Woods or Great Basin?

Roverfire

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Would I be better of just buying a TW or Great Basin drive shaft instead of rebuilding mine again? His centering ball is serviceable and it uses a 1310 u-joint that can be purchased almost anywhere. I haven't seen a centering ball kit anywhere that is serviceable.
 
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jafir

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I'd replace it. I rebuilt the one on my 03, and if I need to do it again, I'll just buy a better one.

Of course that's what I'm saying now... but when the time comes, the tightwad in me might take over.
 

Disco2Guy

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Buy the HD shaft, then, at your leisure, rebuild the stock shaft and keep it as a trail spare.
 

jhk07

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Rebuild Stock.....

Why?

1.) Read too many Tom Woods something is ducked up stories...

2.) Great Basin..... Doesn't that thing weigh like 500lbs ??

that is all.......
 

Roving Beetle

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jhk07 said:
Rebuild Stock.....

Why?

1.) Read too many Tom Woods something is ducked up stories...

2.) Great Basin..... Doesn't that thing weigh like 500lbs ??

that is all.......

And I can almost assure you 99 out of 100 of those TW stories are just that, stories and there is something else wrong - not the shaft. And if there was a problem with the shaft Tom WILL take of you.

Maybe it's time I reprint my story/write up on my visit and tour of Tom's shop. ;)
 

robertf

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Roving Beetle said:
And I can almost assure you 99 out of 100 of those TW stories are just that, stories and there is something else wrong - not the shaft. And if there was a problem with the shaft Tom WILL take of you.

X2, I've been buying stuff from him since his days at 6 States and haven't had aproblem.

I've only heard of 1 person having a problem and they post every chance they get about it. I'm surprised they haven't got this thread already.
 

kennith

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Roverfire said:
Which is a better choice Tom Woods or Great Basin? GB had a HD one and also a re-manufactured one.

I'm running GBR.

The parts they use are very well chosen. Every shaft has it's differences, just as every assembler has their preferences.

Neither company manufacturers the critical parts in the system. They choose an arrangement, the parts, and put together a shaft that they think will be effective for the application and it's general use.

You might see some fancy branded universal joints here and there with fancy warranties, but plain old universal joints have been perfectly fine for decades, and have survived more abuse than most Land Rovers will ever see when properly maintained and chosen well for the application.

PCS Phosphate uses heavy vehicles in extremely adverse conditions. They have found that sealed universal joints last much longer than properly maintained serviceable joints. Rover owners have found that the catalytic converters cook those sealed joints on the front drive shaft. Each has it's place.

It's not all joints, however. Those joints have to be mounted somewhere, and there are just as many choices in that area. Some like one thing, some like another. Assemblers have their preferences here, as well.

Likewise, there is no best tube diameter or wall thickness for a shaft. Again, each has it's place. I prefer a narrower tube with a thicker wall. Some prefer a larger tube with a thinner wall. Some like aluminum, some like carbon fiber, some like plain old steel.

Weight isn't really much of a factor here, unless you really worry about it. You are trying to spin half the planet with a blender motor already... Of course, when I'm trying to grease the center ball and end up dropping the damned shaft on my forehead, every damned time, it would be nice to have something lighter.:D

Both GBR and Tom Woods offer good shafts for your Land Rover. You might have a preference for one combination of parts and tubing over another.

This all comes down to who you want to pay, Lucky 8 or GBR. Unless you want something different than commonly offered, you are fine either way. Don't forget local boys, either. The shop down the street is sometimes shockingly good.

Flip a coin, or pay whichever company you like more.

Cheers,

Kennith
 

antichrist

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Roverfire said:
I haven't seen a centering ball kit anywhere that is serviceable.
It's the design of the center head that makes them serviceable or not, not the rebuild kit.

kennith said:
PCS Phosphate uses heavy vehicles in extremely adverse conditions. They have found that sealed universal joints last much longer than properly maintained serviceable joints.
Given the number of comments I've read and number of people I've met who don't know how to properly lube a u-joint, I always take statements like that with a grain of salt. Not saying it isn't true in certain cases, but I'm always suspicious.
 
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kennith

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antichrist said:
Given the number of comments I've read and number of people I've met who don't know how to properly lube a u-joint, I always take statements like that with a grain of salt. Not saying it isn't true in certain cases, but I'm always suspicious.

I agree, and I'm not one for sealed joints either way. They might work well for those guys, but I can't dig it.

In this case, however, I know the guy that makes their shafts, and he's no stooge. He's damned good at his job, as well. I've seen some very hot shit come out of that shop.

I've been heavily considering a brief partnership to produce a limited run of my own branded shafts. No smoke and mirrors. I'm clearly not going to build a damned drive shaft myself.

I've got a few other projects in the works, as well. Limited runs of ten units, made ahead of time, of course. I'm not a fool. We've all seen how easy it is to screw up here, and I'm not going to fall into a trap so well designed for me.

I'll write the book on procrastination... Eventually.

Cheers,

Kennith
 
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11b4v

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I got a shop in Atlanta that builds/rebuilds shafts for the dragstrip crowd. When mine started failing last year, and I had to have one right now!, the "local boys" route worked for me. all greasable, solid as a rock.
 

Roverfire

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I did a lot of searching and ended up purchasing a Tatton drive shaft. He is out of Salt Lake. It looks like a top quality part. He uses Spicer joints. I called him and spoke with him before I purchased it. I'll let you know what I think of it once it arrives. A lot of the guys on Jeep forums seem to like them.
 

Roverfire

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I'm hoping my drive shaft will show up in the next few days. Since it's not a factory shaft will 3/8-24 bolts work with it?
 

fishEH

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Roverfire said:
I'm hoping my drive shaft will show up in the next few days. Since it's not a factory shaft will 3/8-24 bolts work with it?
How the hell should we know? I have no idea what kind of flange is going to come on your Tattoo shaft.
 

Jake1996D1

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Roverfire said:
I did a lot of searching and ended up purchasing a Tatton drive shaft. He is out of Salt Lake. It looks like a top quality part. He uses Spicer joints. I called him and spoke with him before I purchased it. I'll let you know what I think of it once it arrives. A lot of the guys on Jeep forums seem to like them.

Since when did Ed start making drive shafts?! :rofl:

Roverfire said:
I'm hoping my drive shaft will show up in the next few days. Since it's not a factory shaft will 3/8-24 bolts work with it?

Exactly what the other guys said, how the hell are we supposed to know? Have they ever made shafts for a rover? As far as we know it could be a drive shaft for the front of a Jeep...