The never-ending Rack Thread

[JLS]

In April of this year I contacted Kyle to do me a custom bumper and we talked about it and got a price lined out. I gave him a $1000 down. He told me from start to finish is usually a couple of weeks! Yeah Right! I have probably sent 40 e-mails since then. First it was that he had to wait for some materials, then he had to wait for parts and about two months ago I gave up and wanted my money back. He says no. He says that he would have to sell the bumper first before he could get my money back to me. Well, in the past couple of weeks I have been trying to get him to give me an update on if he had sold it yet or not. I can't get ahold of him for nothing. I would stay well clear of rover solutions if I were you!

 

[LRNationals]

told you so! there are a lot of con artists out there. and you got ripped off by one.! take him to court, have his company shut down, call thre IRS on him , is he claiming this money as tex exempt or just shouving it into his pocket. i hate to here about people getting ripped off by fawkers like this. if nobody does anything about it, it will just keep happening. people getting ripped off by well..... you know what.

 

[JLS]

I got a question. If I did sue him would it be in a court here in CO or where he lives? I don't know how that would work. I am going to do some research though.

 

[mr_katanga]

I got a question. If I did sue him would it be in a court here in CO or where he lives? I don't know how that would work. I am going to do some research though.

Here in colorado

 

[alex3324]

I got a question. If I did sue him would it be in a court here in CO or where he lives? I don't know how that would work. I am going to do some research though.

Keep in mind that I'm not a legal professional, but you can just head on down to your local courthouse and file a small-claims case against him. You pay the filing fee - usually about $20 or less. They'll give you a court date, if KVT doesn't show up in court on that day with you, the judge will most likely find for you - the plaintiff. You probably won't get your money back right away, but this is pretty sweet revenge - when a judgement is placed against him, it will show up on KVT's credit report. He can't get a mortgage, most landlords will shy away from him and he'll have a tough time getting a job with that judgement on his credit report - until he satisfies (pays you) the judgement.

 

[Eric N.]

Why do I get the feeling that I'm going to be seeing you guys on Judge Judy, Peoples Court, or some show like that...

 

[RoverChic]

Keep in mind that I'm not a legal professional, but you can just head on down to your local courthouse and file a small-claims case against him. You pay the filing fee - usually about $20 or less. They'll give you a court date, if KVT doesn't show up in court on that day with you, the judge will most likely find for you - the plaintiff. You probably won't get your money back right away, but this is pretty sweet revenge - when a judgement is placed against him, it will show up on KVT's credit report. He can't get a mortgage, most landlords will shy away from him and he'll have a tough time getting a job with that judgement on his credit report - until he satisfies (pays you) the judgement.

Alex is referring to Default Judgment, HOWEVER said defendant has to be properly served. If a private processor is not able to properly serve said defendant (HANDS him/her papers that he/she has been officially sued) then this will delay the court proceedings considerably. Lastly, the attorney or you drafts a Small Claims Alias affidavit/notice of or service of publication in a local Journal Record* or something equivalent. Inevitably, (after @ least an acceptable point in time when the said defendant can not be contacted) it would go to a default judgment provided the aforementioned conditions were satisfied. Go to court, then the judge rules in your favor. This is applicable in the states that I practice in.

You should be able to serve via USPS Certified Mail or Signature Required.

I should also note, that I believe you can pass the fees incurred onto the defendant in small claims court (provided the judge approves of them a.k.a. reasonable and appropriate in the jurisdiction). I am not 100% sure on that though. * Might be optional.

 

[pwp]

I gave him a $1000 down...and about two months ago I gave up and wanted my money back. He says no. He says that he would have to sell the bumper first before he could get my money back to me.

JLS sorry to here about that, don't know him or his product/service, but based on the above text, thats just wrong.

 

[syoung]

There's plenty of people who would buy that bumper, if it exists. So it seems there wouldn't be much difficulty meeting that criteria. Sheeyit- I'd be interested in a pic of it... hmmmm....

 

[Zackster]

Hey you know what just struck me after reading this thread and the other one....maybe KVT is already in the clink...that would explain a lot and why he hasn't been able to communicate here.

Hmm Inquiring minds want to know???

 

[andrewv]

Hey you know what just struck me after reading this thread and the other one....maybe KVT is already in the clink...that would explain a lot and why he hasn't been able to communicate here.

Hmm Inquiring minds want to know???

Negative. Axel wouldn't have offered to call him, as he did in the other thread.

Axel, what became of your phone call?

 

[Zackster]

Negative. Axel wouldn't have offered to call him, as he did in the other thread.

Axel, what became of your phone call?

Hmm...I don't know maybe Axel an Ho are just trying to cover for him long enough for him to make bail and get back to the board, so he can talk more smack and fight his own battle's...lmao

I know my ranting about him in the other thread would have brought him out of the woodwork lickity split before.

 

[Axel]

Hmm...I don't know maybe Axel an Ho are just trying to cover for him long enough for him to make bail and get back to the board, so he can talk more smack and fight his own battle's...lmao

Don't forget that Ho or myself could easily have pulled these threads and buried the issue. But doing so would have compromised the integrity of the board. You did business with Kyle, not Ho, not myself, and not with discoweb.org

 

[Axel]

Negative. Axel wouldn't have offered to call him, as he did in the other thread.

Axel, what became of your phone call?

I am not going to make any statements on Kyle's behalf, as I have nothing to do with these transactions.

 

[Zackster]

Don't forget that Ho or myself could easily have pulled these threads and buried the issue. But doing so would have compromised the integrity of the board. You did business with Kyle, not Ho, not myself, and not with discoweb.org

Yeah, but we also know if you did Capetan you might have had a mutiny on your hands.

I actually commend you and HO for leaving them up...because when you start trying to fiddle, lie or hide stuff and well look at what is going on with the White House and you will get my drift.

 

[Bannon88]

One thing that needs to be checked into is whether the racks that were delivered were delivered to members of Dweb who are more prominent or more frequent posters.

If Kyle made racks and delivered to these esteemed members of the Dweb, he would have increaed the validity of his "problems". Surely the new members or one who don't post as much would take longer to speak up, or even speak up at all. Perhaps he was counting on this all along. Sell rack and deliver to the big guns, and keep dangling the carrot to those who are as important. Deliver some of those and keep talking a good game to other. This way he has "real credible" deliveries to those who will post about receiving their rack in a timely manner. Those who were ripped off, then are a little more tentative to complain or take forever to state what happenend to them.

Kyle looks like he did his homework, he just didn't fulfill his promises.

 

[andrewv]

I am not going to make any statements on Kyle's behalf, as I have nothing to do with these transactions.

I commend you for leaving the posts up.

What was your purpose, then, of stating you were going to contact him?

 

[Axel]

I said I would mention the other thread the next time I speak to him. (This one wasn't started yet) That's all I can do, I'm afraid. I did not volunteer to be an intermediary, nor did I offer to speak on his behalf, or post a public recap of any conversation I may have with him. All I'm going to say, is that he has been made aware of the first thread.

 

[Ronnie]

Brian, it sounds like you are making this out to be some sort of sinister plot on Kyle's part. It just sounds like he's gotten himself in over his head. I haven't heard anyone say he has taken a new order in the last 3 - 6 months. As a matter of fact, someone in the other thread said they tried to ask some questions and place an order and he never responded to their inquiries. My best guess is he was doing fine with single orders and then the "group buy" came along and took much longer than he originally estimated. It looks like it has put him behind on orders he already had as well as orders that came in shortly thereafter. Like Axel said, I'm sure everyone will get their products. It may just take a while longer. I do agree though that he should stay in better contact with everyone though.

 

[Loydster]

As far as the back pack racks go I think a year to deliver 15 racks that "take no time at all to make" is a bit much.