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discostew

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The video presents concerning information about hospital care of C19 patients, but such info has been covered already, and the delivery and click-bait title are terrible.
My wife works at a hospital in a pretty rich suburb of Chicago. Early on they figured out the vents caused big problems. She said people buck the vent and then the lungs fill up with fluid. She said that people with blood o2 levels around 70% just got rolled over now and then and they could breath better. Also she said before they started talking about plasma from a recovered Covid patient those rich people had huge shipments of the stuff coming into the hospital. I think as the health care system figured out what to do they did it.

I only watched the first 3 min. or so but didn't have enough tin foil around here to make a good hat.
 

gimebakmybulits

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Vaccine wait times
AIDS - 38 years and still waiting
SARS- 18 years and still waiting
MERS - 8 years and still waiting
China virus 2 weeks (not) or as long as it takes to drain the trillion dollar tit the drug companies are sucking on.
 

DiscoHasBeen

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Vaccine wait times
AIDS - 38 years and still waiting
SARS- 18 years and still waiting
MERS - 8 years and still waiting
China virus 2 weeks (not) or as long as it takes to drain the trillion dollar tit the drug companies are sucking on.

IDK about the others but they do have a cocktail that virtually eliminates AIDS from the body. Granted all these years later. My understanding is there has never been a vaccine developed for a coronavirus. I also read that the virus is mutating to become weaker. The doctor quoted said that this is normal. Like every other living organism the virus wants to survive, and it can't do that by killing the host.
 

terryjm1

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When I started in the fire service I was required to get the hepatitis vaccine. I believe it was a series of 3 shots over six months and would require a booster in a few years. I cant recall how long but not long after that it was determined we only needed to be tested for antibodies. Now, over 25 years later, I still haven’t needed a booster. As a part of our annual fit for duty physicals we get tested for antibodies.

Just started the Anthrax vaccine, 5 total does over 18 months. They say I will need a booster in 3 years. I asked about the possibility of not needing the booster. The response was I can choose to get tested for antibodies before getting the booster. She said I probably won‘t need the booster.

Anthrax inhalation has a 90% mortality rate, by the way.

At first, I was going to pass on getting it as it is voluntary. But, after doing some research, it has been around a long time and figured, why not?

I do find it interesting there is just now a federal grant to provide first responders with the Anthrax vaccine considering it has been around so long.
 

ukoffroad

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i would bet that's exactly what it will be. it's like the flu shot. i personally don't get the flu shot, but how many people get the flu shot every year? the flu is still here.
But the shot significantly reduces the chances you get it, as well as the severity of the case if you get it. Not all the time, but enough to be worth getting it.

The question is at what rate of infection do we decide life just goes on?
 

seventyfive

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But the shot significantly reduces the chances you get it, as well as the severity of the case if you get it. Not all the time, but enough to be worth getting it.

The question is at what rate of infection do we decide life just goes on?

but it does not eradicate the cause, just addresses the symptoms. it's like saying 'we're going to eliminate racism'. no you are not. you acknowledge the existence and create a process to live with it while reducing the effects .

virus. acknowledge it's existence and create a process to live with it while reducing the effects.

i think it is due to our egotistical desire to think we can fix anything. acknowledge the virus, set realistic expectations, create a process to live with the virus while reducing the chances of dying from it. lots of people contract the virus, some die. realistic expectations are dictated by data. people will die, not everyone.

i knew there was always a chance the carrier i was on may have a space flooding, busted pipe, missile attack, etc. realistic expectation. if i dog down the door to save 95% of the crew knowing 5% die, acceptable loss.

my point is life goes on. even if it's a loved one. don't be irresponsible, wear a mask if the data supports it. but understand yes people are going to die if we go back to normal. sometimes you need a forest fire to grow new life. unfortunately this virus isn't targeting the communists burning down our cities and waging war on cops.

you are a teacher, like my wife. you of all people understand education MUST go on. how do we do that? first, get state of the art HVAC systems for all schools, start building schools with more space versus reducing class size. a lot of the data is showing (which is obviously a no brainer concerning airborne pathogens) cramped space + piss poor air circulation = higher risk
 

discostew

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Got a link? That sounds suspect.
I watched a documentary about it. The first polio vaccine infected some kids during some of the testing. I think that two different groups worked on the vaccine. One with live virus and one with dead virus. When they tested the first one lots of scientists and doctor types thought the first one was too risky, ended up being true.