WTB Discovery 2 Safarigard bumpers

onthe8thday

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Looking for front and rear Safarigard bumpers, ideally with skid plates. Understand I'm looking for rare and desirable parts and willing to pony up accordingly. Located in Indiana but willing to drive a good distance or ship if needed. Thanks in advance.
 

onthe8thday

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I have, the response was that the cost of steel is so high that they're not producing bumpers right now. That's understandable, but not knowing what the future holds I decided to try the second hand market.
 

1of40

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Are we sure the D2's different than the D1's? I have a source for D1 front and rear bumpers in VG condition, along with sliders as well.
 
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discostew

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I have, the response was that the cost of steel is so high that they're not producing bumpers right now. That's understandable, but not knowing what the future holds I decided to try the second hand market.
I grew up in the steel belt. Japan flooded our market with steel at prices they lost money on. Till the U.S steel industry was destroyed. We still make steel here but we do it with fewer people. Hopefully the future holds steel and products made from steel made right here. Better quality steel shipped from PA NY IN IL. Plenty of steel to make bumpers I hope.
 

1of40

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I grew up in the steel belt. Japan flooded our market with steel at prices they lost money on. Till the U.S steel industry was destroyed. We still make steel here but we do it with fewer people. Hopefully the future holds steel and products made from steel made right here. Better quality steel shipped from PA NY IN IL. Plenty of steel to make bumpers I hope.
It would be interesting to know why Japan was allowed to crush our steel industry like that.
 

terryjm1

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It would be interesting to know why Japan was allowed to crush our steel industry like that.
Just another example of outsourcing manufacturing to keep corporate profits as high as possible. Was great for the investors but terrible for the blue collar workers. We had 2 large steel plants in the town I grew up. Many of my neighbors worked good Union paying jobs at them. One location is now a very large and vacant strip mall. The other is a business park development. Both redevelopments were heavily tax subsidized and the city was still paying the bill last time I checked. The projected revenues were not met and nowhere near enough to pay off the debt. Taxpayers are paying for a vacant strip mall that produces no revenue. At least the business park is still operational albeit not the financial benefit sold to the city. Bear in mind, when the steel plants closed, American steel was very reasonable and steelworker salaries/benefits were pretty good. Now, I buy Chinese radiators for my British vehicles because the American made counterpart costs 500% more because when things are produced in such low quantities it’s impossible to be competitive… just like the steel industry.
 
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discostew

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It would be interesting to know why Japan was allowed to crush our steel industry like that.
My dad was a superintendent at Bethlehem Steel. I spent my late teens hearing about it constantly.
There is no law that says you can’t sell your product at a loss here in America. If you apply a Walmart economic strategy to Steel you just have to calculate out if your going to be able to hold out longer than the other guy. Then reap the benifit of you having a monopoly in the end.
Quality of steel went way down. Steel rods got hit the worst. There was a time manufacturers here couldn’t get a steel rod good enough to make a threaded rod. My dad actually consulted for companies after retirement. He would go to ports and inspect steel shipments for quality.
 

terryjm1

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“ If you apply a Walmart economic strategy to Steel you just have to calculate out if your going to be able to hold out longer than the other guy. Then reap the benifit of you having a monopoly in the end.”

Exactly… now corporate funded politicians have us fooled by dividing us over cultural differences to assure we don’t pay attention to the wide class separation that is the real problem. Divide and conquer is extremely effective and always has been. I will stop now as I am trending to something that doesn’t belong on an auto enthusiast forum. I will probably go back and delete this.
 

discostew

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I doubt you crossed over. It’s always obvious to me that we don’t get told the truth.
I’m probably just super sensitive to the whole steel issue. The course of my life definitely got changed by the near collapse of the American steel industry.
But right now I’m looking at buying a 2 post lift. Lots of steel in that thing. Before this trade war with China kicked off I was quoted $3600 for a Rotary brand 10,000 lb lift. Just last week I was told between 7 and 8 grand depending on what shipping issues arise. So Rotary lifts are supposed to be made in southern Indiana. Why is that price so different?

because they can?
 
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terryjm1

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“because they can?”

Until demand significantly drops and then like magic we will be buddies with China again. The tariffs will be dropped then, too. I bought my 9000lb lift in 2015. It was under $2000, delivered.

Ignore any “ opinion” based news. It is all partisan divide and conquer corporate sponsored rhetoric.
 

terryjm1

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My apologies to everyone for sidetracking the post. I do really like those bumpers. Thanks again Skip!
 
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