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joshua Frances (Joshua)
Member Username: Joshua
Post Number: 149 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Sunday, April 06, 2003 - 06:09 pm: |
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I thought it would be nice to have a shelf ontop of hang from the spare tire. I once saw this step for short peopel using SUV's that straps around the tire, and lets you step up. Im thinking similar to that. Nothing I want to set a coller on or anything big, but just another surface to have "stuff" on. any ideas how I could strap it around the tire? joshua |
   
Carter Simcoe (Carter)
Senior Member Username: Carter
Post Number: 2185 Registered: 04-2002
| Posted on Sunday, April 06, 2003 - 11:51 pm: |
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Okay.... This sounded like a retarded idea at first.... But after our IM converstation I have seen the light, just so everyone else knows the application for this thing would mostly be as a surface for food preperation and other things that require a stable surface (not necessarily for storage which is how I first took this thread) It seems like a good idea and here is a preliminary plan for how I would go about it, the main question is whether when mounted low enough for the back piece to clear the tire carrier the 'table' would be at a usable height. though even mounted low it would probablly still be better than cutting up food on the ground From someone who does a lot of camping out to the disco I think this is a good idea and the unit itself would be pretty packable since you could set it in the bottom and just throw stuff on top of it with very little loss of cargo space.
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Carter Simcoe (Carter)
Senior Member Username: Carter
Post Number: 2186 Registered: 04-2002
| Posted on Monday, April 07, 2003 - 12:06 am: |
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wow, had to shrink that down a lot, see if you can read it now.... YES I AM BORED!!!!
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charles pastrano (Charles)
Member Username: Charles
Post Number: 175 Registered: 08-2002
| Posted on Monday, April 07, 2003 - 12:05 pm: |
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Why not just buy a heavy duty plastic table with the folding legs from Home Depot. The table fits perfect on top. |
   
Carter Simcoe (Carter)
Senior Member Username: Carter
Post Number: 2191 Registered: 04-2002
| Posted on Monday, April 07, 2003 - 12:16 pm: |
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because I'm a cheap bastard with some mdf board already laying around  |
   
Carter Simcoe (Carter)
Senior Member Username: Carter
Post Number: 2192 Registered: 04-2002
| Posted on Monday, April 07, 2003 - 12:22 pm: |
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Plus I sort of like the simplicity of this idea... Its not going to take me very long to tighten down 4 bolts and have it up and running. When I'm camping I usually don't NEED a full size table with legs and everything just a small stable surface off the ground that I can prepare food on before throwing it on the fire. For s |
   
TPH (Snowman)
Senior Member Username: Snowman
Post Number: 366 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Monday, April 07, 2003 - 01:06 pm: |
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Maybe this will help, maybe not. Look at how a Rhode Gear 2-Bike Rack fits on a rear spare tire. It uses straps (ratcheting would be nice) that go around the tire at two points and pull tight. Use a short board against the tire, like in Carter's above design. It could be strapped to the tire, have lockable hinges at the pivot point (90 degree) and slide out braces for support. This would eliminate the need for bolts and make it easier to install and remove. S- |
   
Carter Simcoe (Carter)
Senior Member Username: Carter
Post Number: 2193 Registered: 04-2002
| Posted on Monday, April 07, 2003 - 01:20 pm: |
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Josh actually ran the idea of using a strap by me on IM and I thought it sounded good but was worried about how tight you could make it... Your idea sounds excellent Snowman and provides yet another wonderfull use for winch straps (One of my favorite things in the world to rig stuff with ) |
   
Neal Glessner (Nealg)
Senior Member Username: Nealg
Post Number: 608 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Monday, April 07, 2003 - 11:10 pm: |
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I would rather have a small tabel and sut it next to the truck. I'm always getting in and out of my cargo area. If I had that shelf thing on my spare tire I would either have to keep clearing the table or I would knock everything off when I shut the cargo door. |
   
Jason Bard (Jbard)
Member Username: Jbard
Post Number: 94 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Monday, April 07, 2003 - 11:12 pm: |
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Neal, you've got mail. |
   
Carter Simcoe (Carter)
Senior Member Username: Carter
Post Number: 2200 Registered: 04-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 12:14 am: |
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True Neal... but it is possible to shut it very slowly without slamming it Like I said the only practicle use I see for it is a sturdy elevated cutting board, I'm not usually getting in the back of the truck while I'm cooking |
   
joshua Frances (Joshua)
Member Username: Joshua
Post Number: 150 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 12:31 am: |
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So guys, Ih ave narrowed it to two ideas...and Going to try them both first is a shelf, with a peice of 1" webbing that would trap around the tire, and then a "peg leg" if you will, down to the bumper. maybe just a small 1/2 inch dowel would do the trick also, the other idea is cut a slit in a shelf, a little shy of how wide yoru tire is...basically so you have a rectange hole in the shelf...then just slip it over the tire, and wedge it down as far as it will go. im trying to figure something out, will check back with you all when i have some pics joshua |
   
Todd W. McLain (Ganryu)
Member Username: Ganryu
Post Number: 188 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 05:09 am: |
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What about a pair of oversized "S" hooks. The hooks could be made of square or round tubing. The circumfrance of the top part of the hook would need to be a little larger than the the width of your tire and the bottom would stick out straightand have the board mounted to it. With the addition of some heavy duty hinges, the whole thing could be foldered up for storage. Also, as it's not actually strapped to the tire, you could lift it off the tire if you wanted to open the door. FWIW, this how my bike rack fits on my Land Cruiser. -Todd |
   
Todd W. McLain (Ganryu)
Member Username: Ganryu
Post Number: 189 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 05:14 am: |
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As another idea, I just saw this on the Coleman website. Seems like it could be adapted to strap to the spare tire and is rather cheap. Coleman Backpacker Table & Gear System |
   
Brian Dickens (Bri)
Senior Member Username: Bri
Post Number: 341 Registered: 08-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2003 - 05:24 pm: |
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I use the REI rolling table with four legs. It is OK, but when prepping something that requires a lot of cutting it is a bit wobbly. |
   
joshua Frances (Joshua)
Member Username: Joshua
Post Number: 161 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 04:55 pm: |
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joshua Frances (Joshua)
Member Username: Joshua
Post Number: 162 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 04:56 pm: |
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joshua Frances (Joshua)
Member Username: Joshua
Post Number: 163 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 05:01 pm: |
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This is kinda ghetto, i know. But with it strapped along the back it wedges up against the tire rubber and stays put. For 8 bucks, you cant beat it. I just used some 1"webbing and some eyelets ( first pic) screwed to the surface. you could even be more ghetto and just drill a hole, put the strapping through and tie a knot on the underside so it doesnt slip through I know, i mean its along the same lines as carters bed he made, but shit, like i said. it doesnt have to be pretty and expencive to serve a purpose maybe this will inspire someone to build a better one, but hell, it works for me. Joshua |
   
Blue (Blue)
New Member Username: Blue
Post Number: 27 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 05:19 pm: |
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hmmmm...you've got three fat lug nuts sitting right there with nothing to do but hold the spare on...get yourself a sheet of aluminum (less wide than the diameter of the tire), fab an el bracket or two, and put those lugs to work... |
   
Carter Simcoe (Carter)
Senior Member Username: Carter
Post Number: 2266 Registered: 04-2002
| Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 05:29 pm: |
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Blue, I thought of that once but you could only make it work with steelies because with alloys the lugs don't stick out past the wheel. |
   
Blue (Blue)
New Member Username: Blue
Post Number: 28 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 05:44 pm: |
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well then, you've got two empty holes on that alloy with nothing to do...three empty holes if you pop the center cap off... |
   
Art Vigil (Colorover)
Member Username: Colorover
Post Number: 101 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 05:55 pm: |
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Sooo...Joshua, nice spare rim you've got there.... ~Art Vigil |
   
Carter Simcoe (Carter)
Senior Member Username: Carter
Post Number: 2267 Registered: 04-2002
| Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 06:18 pm: |
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Yeah, good idea Blue |
   
joshua Frances (Joshua)
Member Username: Joshua
Post Number: 164 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 08:27 pm: |
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Yeh, Me and carter toyed with those ides back and forth on IM...My main concern, was to have something that could pack completely flat and set up quick. This does just that. Knowbody liked my ghetto shelf?We could call it the CB camp shelf, lol I thought of some brackets, of course they would have to be metal to support the weight. Then I just figured eventually, after making it more complicated than it needs to be, it wouldnt lay flat anyway Really, I know this looks like it doesnt work, but it supports a ton of weight and its pretty stable. BUt keep the ideas commin. Joshua |
   
joshua Frances (Joshua)
Member Username: Joshua
Post Number: 165 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 08:30 pm: |
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Oh yeh, Art what might you suggest man? Your sittin here in the background...Im dyin for suggesting bro, so bring it on. ( but i still love the CB scampshelf)
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Art Vigil (Colorover)
Member Username: Colorover
Post Number: 105 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 10:03 pm: |
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Hey Joshua, I'm still trying to score a deal on one deep dish alloy to round out my set. So my suggestion would be to sell your spare to me and replace it with a steelie. That way you can incorporate Blue's idea of using the lugs for more support. Viola! Everyone's happy. |
   
joshua Frances (Joshua)
Member Username: Joshua
Post Number: 166 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 10:46 pm: |
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Hey art...LOL Thats a goood one brother! You know, I searched high and low for these puppies, and finally found someone willing to trade for my 5 star ones. I love the deep dishers, but of course, they would look better on a D-110 oh, i know, im dreaming! joshua |
   
Art Vigil (Colorover)
Member Username: Colorover
Post Number: 106 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Friday, April 18, 2003 - 09:54 am: |
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A 110? Naw, my vote would be for a '97 D90...maybe a red station wagon. But yeah, I think they're the best looking LR rim. As for the shelf, how about putting some of those screw-in hooks into the edge so you can hang up your BBQ tools or keys or ? |
   
joshua Frances (Joshua)
Member Username: Joshua
Post Number: 167 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Friday, April 18, 2003 - 10:33 am: |
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Ohhhhh, hooks. what a good idea. I always am looking for a place to hang crap. flash lites, utencils. Maybe I will drill in some dowels this afternoon, to give some hanging points. Keep the ideas commin. Lets make this the best CB camp shelf yet! |
   
Read (Read)
New Member Username: Read
Post Number: 29 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Friday, April 18, 2003 - 02:33 pm: |
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Blue, your suggestion reminded me of a similar mod for a bike rack that is listed on D-90.com. here is the link to that page http://www.d-90.com/mod/bike.html looks like it can be easily adapted to use as a work surface. Read |
   
Blue (Blue)
New Member Username: Blue
Post Number: 31 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Friday, April 18, 2003 - 04:09 pm: |
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beauty, and you could even use diamond plate! |
   
joshua Frances (Joshua)
Member Username: Joshua
Post Number: 169 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Friday, April 18, 2003 - 05:15 pm: |
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Ok, so blue. Say I get a nice peice of diamond plate, say a 6 or 8 inch circle. How do I drill holes in the exact places so that the lug nuts would fit through? |
   
Blue (Blue)
New Member Username: Blue
Post Number: 33 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Friday, April 18, 2003 - 05:21 pm: |
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I don't know what that circle action is all about - I'd just use a flat rectangle of Al as the shelf, and "L" bracket it to one or two lug nut holes or to the center cap hole. You just gotta get back there and think it through. Give yourself a nice little shelf and just leave it there when you're offroad. |
   
joshua Frances (Joshua)
Member Username: Joshua
Post Number: 170 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Friday, April 18, 2003 - 07:51 pm: |
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I was thinking a circle, to fit inside the rim. A backing plate, if you will, in order to attach the shelf to. Thats what I was talking about a cirle. Im not crazy, really
joshua |
   
Dave_lucas (Dave_lucas)
Senior Member Username: Dave_lucas
Post Number: 370 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2003 - 12:43 am: |
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Joshua, I posted a drawing of an idea I have for a tire carrier mounted shelf It would be lightweight and fold up flat for storage, and setting it up would only take a few seconds. I am thinking materials would be Aluminum or mild steel ~.062 - .090 for the shelf, piano hinges, all other materials would be around .090 thickness. I just may have to make one for myself when I get some of my other projects done http://home.attbi.com/~dave_lucas/wsb/html/view.cgi-photo.html--SiteID-675063.ht ml
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Don Wilbanks (Asphaltgypsy)
New Member Username: Asphaltgypsy
Post Number: 35 Registered: 06-2002
| Posted on Monday, June 23, 2003 - 10:55 pm: |
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Sweet idea Dave - and I just happen to have a 4'x4' sheet of heavy aluminum tread plate left over from reworking the interior of my rear door (see my gallery). I'll post a pic when it's finished. Don |
   
Peter Sharratt (Gummikuh)
Member Username: Gummikuh
Post Number: 171 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 04:50 pm: |
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Hi probably a bit late, but I don`t come here often, why not just have a hinged shelf on the back of the door on the inside, will protect stove from wind and can be made a lot easier and will pack away as well, hooks could be placed anywhere and stuff can simply be left in place. Just a thought. Pete S |
   
Dave_lucas (Dave_lucas)
Senior Member Username: Dave_lucas
Post Number: 393 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 11:22 pm: |
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Hi Don, Have you started on it yet? I am looking forward to seeing the pics. |
   
Jason Lord (Ronan)
Member Username: Ronan
Post Number: 119 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Monday, August 04, 2003 - 11:11 pm: |
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Just noticed this while browsing. Would be nice with a larger surface, but pretty nifty idea. http://www.pebbleshop.com/store/73369.html Jay |
   
Roger Sinasohn (Uncle_roger)
New Member Username: Uncle_roger
Post Number: 18 Registered: 06-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2003 - 11:48 am: |
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There are a few more options available -- there are some links at <http://www.tailgating.com/vehicleaccessories.htm> to sites with hitch tables. |
   
Roger Sinasohn (Uncle_roger)
New Member Username: Uncle_roger
Post Number: 23 Registered: 06-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 10:04 pm: |
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Jason, the Vortex table looks pretty small, but I imagine could be made bigger by strapping a larger cutting board or piece of wood/aluminium/etc. on top. Btw, it's $5 cheaper at mountainsports.com -- Search for vortex table, if that link doesn't go straight there. Note that I've not dealt with them; I just found the table via google. |
   
carl seashore (Drcarl)
New Member Username: Drcarl
Post Number: 13 Registered: 07-2003
| Posted on Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 09:50 am: |
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joshua-ghetto or not your table is a fine use of spare mdf-you could even adapt it for inside the door for those windy nights camping! do you wheel around boston? i am local and would like to find some spots. email offline if you feel like wheeling sometime. cheers, carl |
   
Joshua (Joshua)
Senior Member Username: Joshua
Post Number: 351 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Friday, August 08, 2003 - 10:04 am: |
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Carl..just emailed you buddy! josh |
   
Steve Andrews (Sillybus)
Senior Member Username: Sillybus
Post Number: 308 Registered: 08-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 09:50 am: |
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To add another option, I saw this on travelswithrover.com
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