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Michael Villanueva (Michael)
| | Posted on Monday, September 16, 2002 - 10:25 pm: | 
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The first anniversary of ICS is quickly advancing, and with that approahing date, I find myself mulling over what I could do to cook something uniquely different. [Not that there will ever likely be an ICSII (*sigh)]...
I wonder if anyone (a) has ever made noodles from scratch on the trail, and (b) does anyone have techniques / suggestion for using a wok to stir fry noodles? I have always boiled my noodles, but I see these woks at work in Panda Express... so I got to thinking: Can it really be done? If so, how?
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Eric N (Grnrvr)
| | Posted on Monday, September 16, 2002 - 10:47 pm: |
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Yes, you can make fresh pasta out on the trail. just need to bring some thing nice an flat to make it on. As for cooking pasta in a wok.. I'm sure it could be done with fresh pasta if you were making a dish that had a high liquid content for the fresh noodles to soak up. As for Panda Express, I'm thinking they are just heating up already cooked noodles.. Only one way to find out.. Do it in the back yard the same way you would on the trail and see how it comes out. |
Greg P. (Gparrish)
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 07:49 am: |
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Michael,
How do you guys haul your propane when you are out? Don't you have one of the large camp chef type stoves? I'm searching for a way to carry a 5 or 10 lb bottle safely.
Thanks.
Greg |
gp (Garrett)
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 01:19 pm: |
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come on greg...be a man and strap that thing on the spare tire!! haha. better yet on the ARB and follow Paul closly to keep him moving along to MAR. |
Michael Villanueva (Michael)
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 01:27 pm: |
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Frankly, I do not think there is any way to carry propane safely. I strap my tank on the rop of the rack and just pray for the best in the event of a roll over. I will not carry it on the rear spare carrier simply because I think a roll over is less likely to occur than being rear ended by Semi doing 85 along I40 out here.
I am playing odds here, make no mistake about it.
Yes, I do pack that large campchef stove when doing a major cook out or cook off.
There is a picture of it in this section in the Campstove thread. That stove, however, is absolute overkill for most events. |
Greg P. (Gparrish)
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 02:41 pm: |
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I've been checking out one of the following and know I'll need a larger tank than the disposable ones. Can't decide between:
Campchef Professional 3 burner or 2 burner
Campchef Professional 2 burner table top
Coleman Outpost 2 burner
The coleman is growing on me as it packs up to 100,000 btu per burner and is very stout. It would be adequate for all sorts of uses as you mention about the campchef's which are all 30,000 btu for the above models. |
Michael Villanueva (Michael)
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 03:42 pm: |
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I own the first two. Both are great for different needs. I would like to see a link to the coleman.. there is something suspect about a claim of 100K btu -- so I would like to check that one out.
If you do go for the professional burner CC, do the three burner. You get maximum flexibility, and if you are already packing a folding two burner, why not three? The three burner allows you to BBQ (in the optional box) and have the two burners for the large griddle.
We use the smaller table top two burner from CC for runs with just family. |
Greg P. (Gparrish)
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 09:10 am: |
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Michael, not sure if this link will work, but it's on the cabelas website and in their catalog.
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jhtml?id=0013228515276a&navAction=jump&navCount=2&indexId=cat20110&podId=0013228&catalogCode=IC&parentId=cat20110&parentType=index&rid= |
Michael Villanueva (Michael)
| | Posted on Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 12:03 am: |
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Looks like a winner. Price is about the same (CC) retails for a lot less on line and in stores. But I like the fact that the Coleman has adjustable legs for uneve terrain.
Look at both -- Popular Outfitters carries both lines and see which one suits your fancy. Crap, they even weigh about the same. |
George Clayton (Offcamber)
| | Posted on Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 08:08 am: |
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One thing I've done is to boil the noodles ahead of time, and store in a Ziplock bag. Once dinner time approaches, you can dump into the wok, add what ever spices and sauces tickle your fancy, and heat thru as you stir-fry them. I do the same thing with Mashed Red-Skin Potato that can be formed into small patties, and cooked like burgers on a griddle (Fritters). They've been a standing request from all I Camp and Sail with.
HTH |
Michael Villanueva (Michael)
| | Posted on Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 10:51 am: |
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I never thought to cook the noodles ahead of time -- most excellent input, thanks Eric and George. Duh.... silly me.
Excellent! |
George Clayton (Offcamber)
| | Posted on Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 10:55 am: |
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No Prob, Michael.......Once I have some free time, I'll post some of my Trail/Dockside "Gourmet" recipes. My Campsites and Boat Slips usually have people hanging around for the aromas, wondering when they can put in their orders! LOL |
Greg P. (Gparrish)
| | Posted on Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 11:25 am: |
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Well, Michael, update in order.
I just tracked down a store in the Philly area that has one (1) of the Coleman Outpost stoves in stock, so I'm going by after work to pick it up. They are matching the website price, plus no shipping.
Most excellent. I'll let you know how it performs after MAR.
http://www.coleman.com/coleman/colemancom/prod_detail.asp?product_id=9420-700 |
Greg P. (Gparrish)
| | Posted on Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 02:55 pm: |
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Michael Villanueva (Michael)
| | Posted on Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 04:29 pm: |
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Just do not adjust the legs during cooking or deep frying. Let us know how easy those legs are to adjust -- you might want to post that info when you get it in the large cooking stove thread in this section. Make sure you get a griddle with that creature! |
Greg P. (Gparrish)
| | Posted on Friday, September 20, 2002 - 12:37 am: |
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I picked it up this afternoon and it is a brute. Weighs in at 69 pounds. I had somewhere to be afterwards so I haven't even opened to box or taken it out of my truck, but I will be ordering a grill box and griddle, and will be tracking down a small 10# tank for it.
I have decided to also get the DJ-60T table top camp chef professional stove also at some point, as I liked your point of view regarding the versatility of have both large stove and portable.
Thanks for the input. |
Greg P. (Gparrish)
| | Posted on Friday, September 20, 2002 - 10:12 am: |
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Okay, update again Michael, after hauling this brute around for a day+ now, it is going back. Way to fricken heavy. At 70 lbs, it is way too much. I ordered the DJ-60T I mentioned above, and will give it a go. Table top version of the DB-60. 30k btu per burner at only 33 lbs. Still a heavy stove, but less than half of what this coleman is running.
I did, however, go ahead and get grill box and griddle as you suggested. 
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Michael Villanueva (Michael)
| | Posted on Friday, September 20, 2002 - 10:47 am: |
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Yup, that is the critter I used for the Bill Burke Hole in the Rock Documentary Video-Thon. I really did not like it all that much -- the 30K burners are plain ass sucky at any type of altitude, particularly in any any gentle breeze. The wind shields on that piece of shit are just useless -- the breeze moils around the side setting up eddies and mini-vortexes that the 30K burners with their larger flame circumference simply cannot power through. Moderate breeze, cold mountain temperatures? Flame to the south, flame to the north, flme to the east or west, but little flame under your pot. You will be waiting for the cows to come home to boil water.
In no weather, near sea level, I think it is ok. But for camping and treking? Naw. I think that stove has too many negatives -- a smaller, lighter tradtional Coleman white gas would have served me better.
Of course the first stove is heavy! Cast iron burners, no? Besides, it is meant to be left standing for days at a time. We keep ours right outside the kitchen allus ready to go. Greg, it is not meant to be carried around, but trucked around , then set-up. Nothing beats that pup on the trail when you have a butt-load of people to cook for. And yes, I need help to get it up on the rack. Still as a tool for a specific task, it works.
If the weight thing is that much a concern to you, then take a look. These folks make some nice stoves, and certain models are made with aluminum frames. I like their stuff, never used it, but I like the way it looks. The wieght is off by a third with the aluminum models. |
Greg P. (Gparrish)
| | Posted on Friday, September 20, 2002 - 12:01 pm: |
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In an effort to stop giving Ho material to chuckle at me about, I'm emailing you direct. |
Michael Villanueva (Michael)
| | Posted on Friday, September 20, 2002 - 12:42 pm: |
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Don't worry about Ho. That boy needs some cooking lessons anyway. |
Ho Chung (Ho)
| | Posted on Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:22 pm: |
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Michael Villanueva (Michael)
| | Posted on Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 11:47 am: |
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Prove it! |
Ho Chung (Ho)
| | Posted on Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 12:09 pm: |
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Greg P. (Gparrish)
| | Posted on Monday, September 23, 2002 - 04:32 pm: |
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Okay a further update: After deciding the coleman was too heavy and cancelling an order for a sport utility version of the camp chef, I have finally decided on the camp chef professional single burner DFS-30 stoves. I ordered two of them, along with a grill box, griddle and wind screens.
These appear to be basically half of the larger two burner db60 without the legs. There is a leg kit available, that I may order later, but I didn't get it now. I did go ahead and get storage bags for each grill though. These should pack nicely as two small units, and the weight of each stove is around 18 lbs, so I have theorically halved my weight from that of the coleman outpost stove.
base stove
with grill and legs attached |
Greg P. (Gparrish)
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 10:38 am: |
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Well, got the two stoves today. Found them at REI.com online for $59.00 each. They are about 18 lbs each and very stout. So far, I'm very impressed.
I ordered from globalmart.com two storage bags, CB-30, two windscreens WS-30, a grill insert BB-30, a griddle FG-14 and a WOK fire ring. As best I can tell, it should all pack into the two carry bags.
I didn't order any of the legs for them, but they can be had as a set for 19.00 and claim to be adjustable. I'm planning to use them on a folding aluminum table.
I'll keep you posted on how they work, as they could be a very good alternative to the large stove, and would be much easier to pack. I think they will even fit inside a pelican 1650, but don't have one yet to test. |
Greg P. (Gparrish)
| | Posted on Monday, October 07, 2002 - 04:30 pm: |
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I put an update under the large stove thread. I was very pleased with the small units. I used them on a small table, but would recommend the legs for them. They are very easy to pack, and will fit perfectly across the back of the discovery 2 as follows:
stove bag - coleman extreme 36 qt cooler - stove bag
I stored the grill in one bag, and the griddle in the other, although I'm going to order a bag for each of those to put them in before inserting into the stove bag. The reason for this is to keep the cooking grease/oil/grime from getting all over the stove, and to protect the griddle surface. |
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