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Sus (Susannah)
Posted on Friday, October 18, 2002 - 02:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Okay, so Ivan and I found this vehicle on ebay and he says if he gets a new one..that's the one he wants. BUT, he would never buy from Ebay and we are far from Texas.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1869587357

My question is directed to those who work at the dealerships...or anyone who knows actually...
How many of these were made in white for 2002 and could a dealership order one pre-owned?
 

Greg Davis (Gregdavis)
Posted on Friday, October 18, 2002 - 03:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Sus, just remember. On the '02's, you won't be able to lock the CDL.
 

Robbie (Robbie)
Posted on Friday, October 18, 2002 - 03:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

i know nothing about numbers, but problem with 2002, no CDL possible. just something to think about.
 

Robbie (Robbie)
Posted on Friday, October 18, 2002 - 03:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

damn, beaten......
 

Phillip Perkinson (R0ver4x4)
Posted on Friday, October 18, 2002 - 03:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

go look at it. just got a D-90 from massachusetts went an looked at it liked paid for it and had it shipped. its worth a try if its what you want. the pictures look good.
 

Greg P. (Gparrish)
Posted on Friday, October 18, 2002 - 04:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

There is one that looks just like that one at LR Mainline in PA.
 

Jeff Anderson (Groovydude)
Posted on Saturday, October 19, 2002 - 12:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

They look better with a roof rack!!
 

Christopher Boese
Posted on Saturday, October 19, 2002 - 01:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I believe that 100 white, 100 gray, and 150 yellow Kalaharis were built.
 

Jeff Anderson (Groovydude)
Posted on Saturday, October 19, 2002 - 02:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Not sure on the exact amount made but ive heard many diffrent numbers. I`ve also heard 250 and 200 of each color where made. I`d like to know the exact # just for shits and gigles.
 

Art
Posted on Saturday, October 19, 2002 - 10:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

A friend just bought a gray Kalahari from Land Rover of Alexandria,VA.The saleman said Land Rover made 150 white,150 yellow,and 50 gray.
 

Glenn Guinto (Glenn)
Posted on Sunday, October 20, 2002 - 11:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I thought those were dealer installed options? I mean, what could be so technical about adding that blacked out hood and those $G sliders? If the factory did build them, $G must've really stike a deal $$$. I'm sure someone can confirm this...

-glenn
 

Jeff Anderson (Groovydude)
Posted on Sunday, October 20, 2002 - 02:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Glen,

Its just not the Sliders and the blacked out hood that drove me to buy the Kalahari. I went to the dealer to buy a basic Disco 2. But the interior is really what sold me. Its not the duragrain nor is it 100% leather but its half cloth and half leather. The part you park your ass in and the back of the seat is this cloth stuff and the sides are leather. I also liked the darker interior. Well i also got it for the price of a SE and its Yellow!

Oh and yes the roof rack was a dealer installed option. Now i also see some Kalaharis with a sticker package. Mine came with no stickrers. I think the Kalaharis in D-webs gallery have the stickers. They have KALAHARI on the winsheild in big fat white letters, the USA flags on the front side fenders by the hood, Kalahari on the sides and some other crap. I`m glad mine didn`t come with that shit!!
 

Glenn Guinto (Glenn)
Posted on Sunday, October 20, 2002 - 09:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Jeff,

The point I was trying to make was that, I didn't think that the Kalahari's came from the other side of the pond that way. I think it's easy enough for LRNA or even the local dealers to perform these mods so as far as official quantities are concerned, I don't think we can never be too sure. I have no doubts that the options in the Kalahari package are great, (heck, I would love to have one if I can afford it) I just didn't think that they came that way from Solihull.

Cheers!

-glenn

On a side note, Paramus Land Rover (NJ) had a new RR in their lobby and along the side is a set of 20" bling-bling rims (chrome Niche Wheels) that said "New RR upgrade rims". I've always went by To each his own but damn!...
 

Jay Hobbs (Jayxd)
Posted on Sunday, October 20, 2002 - 11:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I would think the interior, wheels and gulf states front at least came from the factory. Not sure about the rest. I doubt SG shipped a bunch of sliders to England just so they could be put on there, but maybe so. What confused me was that the ones the dealer ordered kept changing. They added quite a few decals, took some off (to help try and sell the things), added BFGs on one and racks with lights. I remember seeing one with SD on the front quarter panels, a week later it said Kalahari. That definitely makes me think certain parts of the pkg. were dealer installed. I do remember too the 50 gray, 150 yellow, 150 white numbers.

As much as I like the 3rd generation RR I too saw one, but on the road, with the twankies all shiney and new. First thing that popped into my head was what to call it.... The Range Rover "Bling-Bling" edition. Too funny, I think most rover enthusiast are/or will think the same thing when they see that.... it just isn't right!
 

Jeff Anderson (Groovydude)
Posted on Monday, October 21, 2002 - 12:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Glen,

Sorry if I mis-took you. I agree alot of the Kalahari options are most likely installed here at the dealers.
 

BMac66
Posted on Monday, October 21, 2002 - 01:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Anybody notice the VIN is SALTY.......?
 

Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
Posted on Monday, October 21, 2002 - 07:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Actually,

Rovers are supposedly shipped over on steel rims... when they hit port, the alloys are installed, and the steel ones shipped back to the factory for the next batch of Rovers. I can't verify that story, but that is what I've been told......


FWIW.....

-L
 

Bill Bettridge (Billb)
Posted on Monday, October 21, 2002 - 08:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Leslie - the Rovers are offloaded in the port of Baltimore all the time and I drive by everday - looks like they all come off the boats with alloys intact.

Bill
 

Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
Posted on Monday, October 21, 2002 - 08:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Okay, then scratch that comment I made.....

May have been historically correct or something, ie, back w/ DIs, but not w/ the DII, given the different wheel bolt pattern.....

:)


-L
 

Jeff Anderson (Groovydude)
Posted on Monday, October 21, 2002 - 08:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Whats the SALTY in the VIN supose to mean?
 

Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
Posted on Monday, October 21, 2002 - 10:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

1 Country: S = UK
2 Manufacturer: A = British Leyland/Rover
3 Vehicle Make: L = Land Rover
4 Line (model)
D = 90 & 110
H = Range Rover Classic
J = Discovery
N = Freelander
P = Range Rover (mk2)
T = Discovery, Series II
5 Series (Emissions and wheelbase)
C = LWB (108") Range Rover Classic--must be a 49 State Emmissions
E = 50 State Emisssions: NAS Range Rover, mkII (100")
H = NAS 110"
N = 50 State Emissions: NAS Discovery (100")
V = 49 State Emissions: NAS 90" or NAS Range Rover, mkII (100")
50 State Emission for NAS Range Rover Classic (100" & 108") X = 50 State Emissions (California): NAS 90"
Y = 49 State Emissions: NAS Discovery (100") & Freelander


http://www.lrfaq.org/FAQ.3.Chassis_Numbers.html

FWIW.....

-L
 

Christopher Boese (Christopher)
Posted on Tuesday, October 22, 2002 - 12:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Here's the original Land Rover/Ford press release, showing what was to be included on the Kalaharis: http://media.ford.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=7947. In fact, they showed up here without stickers, roof rack, and build-number badge. My theory is that Land Rover wanted to give the dealers an opportunity to sell some dealer-added stuff, so the roof rack was not ultimately included. I really wanted that Trek-style rack with the mesh floor. Oh well. And I had to pay for a preposterous "carbon-fibre trim package" as well.
 

Sus (Susannah)
Posted on Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 10:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Thanks for all the discussion everyone! Ivan and I agree that it's mostly the special interior that we like...b/c we could just have all the other stuff included as options at some point. But he was concerned about the CDL issue...so we will wait another year and maybe he'll make a run for the new 2003. Do they have the CDL?!
 

Ron
Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 01:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Sus,

Greg is correct. LR Main Line (where alyssa works) has an 02 white Kalahari that just came out of loaner service and is for sale. Call Alyssa if you are interested 610 520 2000

I can crawl under and see if it is CDL capable if you like, though I kinda doubt it.

Ron (puppy's dad, alyssa's husband)
 

Sus (Susannah)
Posted on Thursday, October 31, 2002 - 04:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Thanks Ron...it would be good to know. Maybe I'll visit it when I head to PA for work in November...actually, I'll probably stop by anyway just for fun! I scoped out the rover place here my first day! (VA Beach)

Now someone has to explain to me exactly how less capable it would be without the CDL. Since everyone has mentioned it, I'm guessing it's a big deal....but i'm still a little foggy...:)
 

Michael Noe (Noee)
Posted on Thursday, October 31, 2002 - 05:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Boy, you just missed a big exchange on the disco2owners group on this whole CDL D2 thing. Go check the archives there, I thought it was some pretty good info, though the tone in some cases got a little pissy.
 

Alyssa
Posted on Friday, November 01, 2002 - 01:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Discovery SE Kalahari
Additional Content (Based on 2002 Discovery SE):
• Saudi/Gulf specification Front Bumper
• Saudi/Gulf specification Grill
• Black Steel Rear Ladder
• Black Steel Wrap-around Brush Bar with Lamp Guards
• Black Steel Rear Lamp Guards
• (2) Front Driving Lights with Integrated Grills
• Matte Black Glare Shield (Hood)
• Body Color Headlamp finishers and Grill Surround
• Black Duragrain seats with "Tetra" technical fabric seating surfaces
• Black "Tetra" door panels
• "Silver Frost" trim on door and fascia panels
• Special Vehicles Badge
• 16" "Typhoon" Alloy wheels finished in Gunsmoke
Options
• Safari Gard Rock Sliders
Volume
These specially equipped vehicles are limited to a quantity of 350 vehicles.
• 150 Borrego Yellow
• 150 Chawton White
• 50 Bonatti Grey
Pricing – Vehicle & Options
MODEL / OPTION CODE MSRP RETAILER INVOICE
Discovery SE Kalahari KAL $38,900 $35,265
Safari Gard Rock Sliders* RSD $450 $401
* Discounted from original LRNA $900 MSRP Rock slider option (RSD). This discount is
only applicable with the 2002 Discovery SE Kalahari.
These prices do not include a destination charge of $645.
 

Alyssa
Posted on Friday, November 01, 2002 - 01:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Ours has 5300 miles, has the SG Rock Sliders, has never been titled, and is $33,900. It is white & it is really cool. I love the Kalahari! I do wonder why they only made 50 in B Grey, though. That's such a pretty color, and I think it goes so well with the grills, wheels, and interior colors.
 

John Moore (Jmoore)
Posted on Friday, November 01, 2002 - 04:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

What makes the Saudi Bumper and grill different. I have only seen them photos and it's hard to see what the difference is...

-John
 

Rob Davison (Pokerob)
Posted on Friday, November 01, 2002 - 04:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

http://www.northeastbritishparts.com/

i dont know what hte bumper is, but i think it is trimmed so that the "skirt" is removed and endcaps to suit.

the grill is a big open mesh, like a thick chicken wire.

rd

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