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Kennith P. Whichard III (Kennith)
Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 11:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Well,

I'm at it again, in the midst of working on my rack I had an idea. I thought about loading bulky objects up there and how I might go about it. Well, being not quite so large, and having trouble with my left hand from a rock climbing injury, I don't suppose I'd have an easy time with that tiny ladder.

I decided I was going to rhino line my hood. I thought about it, and decided it might not stick well when the hood pops in and out, and the hood as it is, won't adequately support me. I need to bolt or rivet a frame to the hood itself. Well, in order for the frame to support the hood, and not vice-versa, the frame has to include new hood hinges.

Well, now that I have a load bearing plane on the front of my rover, I thought it a wast not to use it, so I'm going to install 3 d-rings on either side. I'll fix a net between them to hold things down.

Anyone done anything like this before? I know it should be streightforward, but without my truck in front of me, it's difficult to imagine.

Cheers,

Kennith
 

Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 11:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

The big problem with that that I see goes back to the "tyre on the bonnet" idea.... The bulkhead on a Series or a Defender is such that the bottom of the windscreen has the space of the vents above the bonnet, providing room for having the tyre there.

On a Disco, because the bottom of the windscreen is there at the edge of the bonnet, you don't have the extra space, so anything on top of the bonnet will start reducing visability.

While a tyre may be too much, smaller things may do okay like this. The other issue I see that may arise, though, is that the objects stored there will be vulnerable to heat, loss, theft, etc.

But, it would make for a distictive-looking Disco...

IMHO, FWIW....

-L
 

Greg Davis (Gregdavis)
Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 11:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Well Kennith, my only concern would be that if the hood were loaded, and you needed to raise it, you'd have to unload it to do so. That would be a pain, as well as the poor visibility it would offer.

Plus, you'll need to make sure that there's enough clearance under the hood for the framework. I really don't think that there is.

Wouldn't it be easier to just make a larger ladder for the rear that you could use? How will you get up on the hood? You'll need some way to get up there, while carrying your load.

Not criticising, just asking.
 

Carter Simcoe (Carter)
Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 11:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

you need some of those cool poseur "helicopter hooks" like on the H2 :)
 

Kennith P. Whichard III (Kennith)
Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 11:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Yeah,

The points you have raised are ones that I have concidered. It would really only be used for for holding gear that is dirty or I'd rather not throw upstairs. I'm thinking about getting a couple of medium size waterproof bags for the job. Visibility isn't much of a conscern because I'd really only throw things on there temporarilly, like nasty wellies or rain gear until I need them again.

I can step up on the T/O front bumper I'm putting on to reach the hood, and someone else can hand me what I need to stow up there. I can work the frame arount the engine componants, and if aluminum tubing is too big, I'll use T-section stainless steel to save space.

I also like to sit on top of my truck, and this would be just the spot for a lawn chair. :)

Cheers,

Kennith
 

Carter Simcoe (Carter)
Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 12:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

You suffering from Disco withdrawl over there Kennith???
 

Rob Davison (Pokerob)
Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 12:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

so in plain english, you want to make a luggage rack, but have it secured to the hood?

http://www.seriousauto.com/exterior-accessories/luggage-rack/rack1.jpg

rd
 

E Snyder
Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 04:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I've seen some axe and shovel brackets for Series truck hoods that might work.
 

Kennith P. Whichard III (Kennith)
Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 08:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Rob,

Yeah, I suppose so. And I am suffering from serious withdrawl. :)

I am going to install two beefed up hood sticks to support the added weight, and the hinges will be new too. I won't put enough up there that the hood wouldn't go up. The main reason I need it so strong is to support me standing on it.

Cheers,

Kennith
 

Moe (Moe)
Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 09:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I thought this type of idea was shot down some time ago :(

You are dreaming Kennith. Once you are on the hood, leaning over the windshield, and have packed the front 1/5 of the rack, how are you going to pack the rest? You certainly won't be able to reach it from the hood.
 

David Marchand (Dmarchand)
Posted on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 08:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I was watching the '96 Camel Trophy last night and noticed those guys standing on the hoods of the DI's involved...

Never crossed my mind as to why you would want to stand on the hood while driving, but someone was doing it in the video. Talk about waiting to get thrown off.
 

Kennith P. Whichard III (Kennith)
Posted on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 12:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Moe,

You may be right, but I'm damn well gonna try. :) The more bogus ideas I attempt to field, the more I learn. Every now and again a good one comes out. :)

Cheers,

Kennith
 

Eric
Posted on Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 11:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I think it's a cool idea. If there is no room under the hood for a frame, how about on top of the hood? Or how about take the hood off and replace it with a boxy looking aluminum diamond plate fabricated hood? Or buy a junkyard hood and rivet some diamond plate where it makes sense, bolt it on and jump up and down on it a few times. On a trial and error basis - you will figure out where to put reinforcing braces etc.

The result could be a pretty cool looking hood!
 

Kennith P. Whichard III (Kennith)
Posted on Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 01:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Eric,

Why stop there? I could use plywood! :)

I think I can run the braces around engine componants. That shouldn't be a problem. The frame dosn't have to be all that thick, just structurally sound. I have definately decided to do it, with the only drawback I can see being a lack of heat sinking once I apply the liner.

This will really help me when I'm washing the car as well.

Cheers,

Kennith

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