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Author Message   NateZ Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 09:27 pm:    Hello, i'm still new to the board. I decided to show you guys my disco. It's a 94 disco with a hell of a lotta miles, it started it's life out 'champagne' until basically a restoration was done to it last winter, and it's now black with the brush bars and everything as you can see. Heres a b4 pic http://www.imthedevil.net/uppics/nonzrelated/Mvc014f.jpg And the after, usually i just tell people I bought a new truck lol. http://www.imthedevil.net/uppics/nonzrelated/rover01.jpg http://www.imthedevil.net/uppics/nonzrelated/rover03.jpg http://www.imthedevil.net/uppics/nonzrelated/rover04.jpg http://www.imthedevil.net/uppics/nonzrelated/rover02.jpg Later Nadir(Nate)   NateZ Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 09:37 pm:    By the way this is the truck that i've been posting all the whee/rims question about. I still can't seem to find any nice big aftermarket wheels that will fit it. Anyone have any ideas? I'm looking for sizes 18" and up (yeah i'm ghetto ;-) )   Phillip Perkinson (R0ver4x4) Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 10:29 pm:    how about some 15" steel wheels and mud tires not to mention a lift... you would have more fun.   NateZ Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 10:43 pm:    Nah, my toy is my Z: http://www.xceedspeed.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3451&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight= I just need to make the disco look a little more bling bling, but it seems impossible with it's bolt pattern. The truck has 130k+ miles on it and has never been off pavement lol.   Ted Chestnut (Tedchestnut) Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 12:21 am:    130k+ miles and never off pavement... you proud of that enough to tell people? Don't believe I'da told that one brotha. I agree with Phillip. You need some mud treads. Then all you gotta do is throw your balls over the ledge. There should never be any bling bling in rovers or any kind of real 4x4 i think. breaks my heart. but thats my opinion.   NateZ Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 12:36 am:    I know theyres a bunch of you on here and almost all of you take your cars offroad, but i'm not gonna be scared to post that i don't. While I may represent the minority on this website, I represent the majority of owners. I bought this truck to drive daily, and to tackle michigan winters since I cannot drive my Z in winter and prefer not to drive it in foul weather. I have no reason to go and drive up the side of a mountain so i won't. But I will use it to get through winter and on rainy days. And if I want to add 18's that look better then the disguisting 16" stockers, then who cares. I'm not gonna be ashamed to post. How many new suv's today do you see coming with 16" wheels, and wheels as ugly as the ones on the older disco?   Carter Simcoe (Carter) Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 12:52 am:    Well if you wanna start being a dick about it........ Judging by the fact that there are 3 of you guys asking about 18s for a DI and the fact that nobody around here has come up with any yet it would be safe to say that they probably aren't out there and if they are nobody around here knows about them. Therefore your time might be better spent beating this one to death somewhere else, just a suggestion. In the meantime try these:   NateZ Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 01:16 am:    I didn't mean to come across as an asshole if thats what it seemed like. I just felt like the single guy out that everyone picks on when they don't agree with what someone wants to do with their truck. I do the same thing when I see someone doing something to their 300zx that I don't like over @ twinturbo.net so I understand where you guys are coming from. In all honesty i'm not looking to make my car into something flashy with spinning wheels. I was interested in the stock range rover hurricane wheels until I came over here and discovered they wont fit. But anyways enough babbling, i'll stop posting about aftermarket wheels and visit the local belle tire tomorrow and see if theyres any wheel close they they can redrill or something. In the meantime i'll sit back read a few posts and try to learn some new info.   NateZ Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 01:19 am:    excuse the spelling it's late and i'm checking in from time to time in between studying for a midterm =(   Robert Sublett (Rubisco98) Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 07:28 am:    Had this saved for awhile. Scary stuff if you ask me..   Robert Sublett (Rubisco98) Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 07:30 am:    http://www.cecwheels.com/gallery/gallery_item.cfm?id=37   Kennith P. Whichard III (Kennith) Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 08:39 am:    Well, I hate to be the one to say this, but they do exist. I was down at the LR dealer in West Chester having tea when someone pulled up in a Disco 1 with what must have been 22's and a dropped suspension. I thought it was silly, but hey... to each his own. Look into the nicer wheel makers out there, Lexani, Konig, etc... These manufacturers frequently produce rims for SUVs like the Navigator and Escalade. They won't be cheap, but you will get what you want. Cheers, Kennith   Todd Sanders (Sanderskog) Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 11:10 am:    My god! My eyes! Damn Robert. Include some sort of warning before you post something like that Todd   Blue (Bluegill) Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 11:32 am:    Hey, if Nate wants to pimp his disco, it's up to him. That's the beauty of freedom - you can take a perfectly good truck and put chrome & fat little rubberband tires on it if you want.   Jeremy Katka (Jkatka) Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 11:33 am:    NateZ, Check around there are nice rims out there that are greater then 16" There was a guy at the ABFM in Seattle that was selling some 18" rims for the RRC and disco that were very .... ummm.... expensive lets say. I think he said he had them imported from the UK. Check out a LRM (land rover monthly), I would be one of the retailers in there carries what you are looking for. As a thought. Why not get some more appealing 16" rims like the deepdish or freestyle and put some AT tires on them. You will be driving in rain and snow right? Then if you did want to go up a dirt road or skiing you would have the option. Good luck with it all JK   Carter Simcoe (Carter) Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 11:35 am:    MY GOD!!!, HAVE YOU NO SHAME ROBERT???   Carter Simcoe (Carter) Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 11:43 am:    Nate, don't worry about it. We aren't opposed to helping people who don't offroad, just expect a little bit of teasing in the process. Stick around because this is definitely the best rover site out there for maintenance concerns. And listen to Jeremy, I have to admit after I replied to you last night I was looking through a Land Rover Owner International magazine and they have ads for lots of different wheels in there. Go pick up a rover magazine (Barnes and Noble seems to be the best place) and look for them in there, I have ordered from overseas before and the shipping isn't that bad plus rovers aren't as high priced over there as over here and it reflects in the aftermarket prices as well.   E Snyder Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 03:44 pm:    Robert my eyes are bleeding.   Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 03:52 pm:    The only kind thing to say is that at least the tires are Dunlops..... -L   Robert Sublett (Rubisco98) Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 03:56 pm:    I said it was scary...   Carter Simcoe (Carter) Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 04:19 pm:    Tires Leslie??? There were tires on those things???   mcartist Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 04:35 pm:    I posted these before and I have to again here are 2 options for Nate   mcartist Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 04:39 pm:    sorry   b Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 04:44 pm:      Brad Mc (Mcartist) Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 05:06 pm:    last try... i promise or   Blue (Bluegill) Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 05:30 pm:    LOL, again!   Brad Mc (Mcartist) Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 05:44 pm:    lol...sorry Blue... I didnt realise that someone else was posting my picts... Im just not quick enough, I must be getting old   Blue (Bluegill) Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 05:57 pm:    no, I mean it's just as funny the second time around. I dig the General Lee Disco...   Ron Ward (Ronward) Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 05:58 pm:    Bling bling on the Disco is bad enough. Anyone check out the way Nate treated a perfectly good Z car? Reminds me of some of those silly Honda Civic (Type R!) creeps who hang out at the mall. Now wouldn't it be fun to take that Z off road once just down a gravel road? Just having a little late in the day at the office fun.... Ron Ward   Disco Slam Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 07:39 pm:    I need those 22's that is awsome!!! I want to lower mine to about an inch off the ground. Maybe I can get rid of the front dif and install hydrolics!!   Blue (Bluegill) Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 08:11 pm:    just when you thought you were recovering: http://www.cecwheels.com/gallery/gallery_item.cfm?id=88   Eric Ratermann (Ericrat) Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 09:14 pm:      Eric Ratermann (Ericrat) Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 09:16 pm:    If anyone knows the owner of that truck I promise to buy him Guiness until he can't hold any more as reparations.   Curtis N (Curtis) Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 11:24 pm:    This is one of those quirky perspective issues. Nate, being from the fast car crowd believes "the bigger the better". His own words are that the 16's are UGLY. Most on this site believe that 16's are as big as one should go and anything bigger looks silly. Just think of all the ACE D2 owners that have swapped thier 18's for 16's or 15's. Nate - personal preferrence is cool, but a vehicle looks good if it meets the funtion of the vehicle and makes it perform to the best of it's ability. I think the Greek word is Arete. A Z looks great with big wheels and low-profile tires. A Rover Looks great with small wheels and high-profile rubber. A Rover with fast-car shoes looks as silly to many as a Z with wheeling tread. Rover On, Curtis   NateZ Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 11:49 pm:    I've given up on looking for wheels for the truck, it's damn near impossible to find any with the bolt pattern, plus all the ones I have found are a little over the top. You guys probably have a right to rip on me considering what I want to do to my rover, but not on my Z, that hurts =( First off the wheels are the only set in North America, theyre Nissan Altia N1 Ex's, made by Nissan for their racing division, kinda like m wheels and and amg's, all oem. The bodykit install was ridiculous with what I had done, I had the sideskirts, rear valance, and spoiler molded on so that nothing looks 'tacked on' like most bodykits do, if you didn't know what a z looked like, you would think it came from the factory like that. I don't have any cheap lighting, I have all oem lighting from the jdm version of the car. I'm not gonna even bother, you don't know how much it messes with my head when someone says something negative about my Z. I went out of my way to make my car tasteful, just enhancing the stock looks. I could have put a disguisitng attention grabbing veilside kit with alluminum spoiler, and big type r sticker, but i'm not like that. I feel so sad. You have every right to rip on me for what I said I wanted to do to the discovery, i now see the light! but come on, don't rip on the Z, that just hurts man =( Heres an old post to show the work done to the Z was no half ass job. A ricer wouldn't be able to afford what I paid for the bodywork alone not even combined with the parts. http://www.xceedspeed.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3174&highlight= and the updated pics again http://www.xceedspeed.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3451&highlight=   NateZ Posted on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 12:03 am:    Good wording in your post Curtis. Honestly at most I would have went with an 18" wheel. like I said I wanted to put stock range wheels until I found out they would not fit. After seeing the pic of the DII with 22" anteras I did see that it looked a little ridiculous.   KJ Posted on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 12:18 am:    Nate, I say, it's your life, your money, your fun. Don't take some of these comments too seriously. You should have life as much as you can manage it exactly as YOU want it. Enjoy! Karen   Carter Simcoe (Carter) Posted on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 12:19 am:    I personally think the Z looks good, definitly not "over the top". Cool story about the wheels on it as well.   KJ Posted on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 12:23 am:    Carter, get to bed before you get both of us yelled at, LOL! Karen P.S. Did you get out of the "Poorhouse" yet? Or did you burn it?   360modenaF1 Posted on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 01:20 am:    Funny thing is, underneath all that filler it's still a frickin' Z! See you in the rear view..   Jeremy Katka (Jkatka) Posted on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 01:22 am:    I have seen some sets of freestyle OEM rims that are crome plated (I think for the LSE model.) they come up for sale on ebay from time to time. Check the ebay parts for discos or range rover classics (they share the same bolt pattern.) If you want a good tire for the disco I reccomend the Pirelli Scorpion AT, they are H rated and quite quiet on the road. Good luck JK   Carter Simcoe (Carter) Posted on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 01:44 am:    Ha, I'm still looking for a fire worthy enough to burn that piece of crap someone has passed of as a book.   Jan Pellenbarg Posted on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 07:46 am:    Nate, Where is that flag for in the garden, is it you birthday? If the whole world was driving on 20 to 30"wheels what size would you be looking for then?   Eric N (Grnrvr) Posted on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 08:03 am:    Nate, I like your Z.. Pretty sweet. That doesn't look like a twin turbo though. Is it? A guy I used to work with has a twin turbo that he upgraded the turbos on and spent a whole lot of money on. It looked almost stock except for a very low key body kit. You really didn't even notice that it had one. That thing was evil fast though..   NateZ Posted on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 10:28 am:    No, not a twin unfortunately. It's a stahe 3 2+2(2+2's were only available in the states as an na, the car has a brullen exhaust, jwt intake, and asp underdrive pulley). I orginally bought the Z mainly because of the low mileage. It was only after I bought the car that I wished I had bought a twin. I plan on doing a tt swap in the future, since the na motor is all but imposiible to upgrade for serious power, and the tt motor will go right in (vg30de motor in the na vg30dett in the TT). In the car's current stage 3 form it is quick, but i'll be the first to admit it's not something that you go for a drive and say wow. If you drive the car like it was meant to be driven(i.e. roadcourse, kinda like you guys take your discos offroad), then the real beauty and characterisitcs begin to shine. I'll have to agree with you, modified twin turbos are sick. I have a friend with a 90 twin turbo with hks turbos and only bolt on's, and it's making ~550rwhp. It's amazing on the freeway. To whoever made the 'filler' comment. I've heard the comment before, and it's stupid every time. Underneath the duramix is a sheet of metal riveted between the body of the vehicle and the aftermarket sideskirt so that as little duramix as possible was used. I talked to countless bodyshops and many other people who have molded in various parts on their cars. i did not go into this blindly. I have driven my car hard since I have gotten back, and everything has held up perfect, not that theyre was ever a doubt in my mind that anything would go wrong.   Blue (Bluegill) Posted on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 01:07 pm:    I dig the Z. After lumbering around in this Disco for 4 years, I feel the need for speed.   360modenaF1 Posted on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 01:45 pm:    Sorry about the filler comment, let me rephrase that. Underneath the small amounts of duramix, metal and fiberglass, it's still a glorified ricer.   Michael Noe (Noee) Posted on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 06:23 pm:    I learned to drive in a '76 280 2+2, so I'll never look at a Z without fond thoughts. 360ModenaF1: Ouch...   NateZ Posted on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 08:51 pm:    360Modena: thanks for rephrasing. BTW do you have a modena? One of the local z'ers has a yellow 360 Modena, i'm still in awe from seeing it in person at one of the local z meets, very nice car. BTW the lambo is his too: http://alkarhi.hypermart.net/uploadpics/MVC-029S.JPG http://alkarhi.hypermart.net/uploadpics/MVC-024S.JPG http://www.mustangmods.com/publish/silverv6mustang/MVC-002S.JPG http://alkarhi.hypermart.net/uploadpics/MVC-022S.JPG http://alkarhi.hypermart.net/uploadpics/MVC-023S.JPG http://alkarhi.hypermart.net/uploadpics/MVC-025S.JPG http://alkarhi.hypermart.net/uploadpics/MVC-027S.JPG   Curtis N (Curtis) Posted on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 11:49 pm:    Nate - that driveway is the sexiest thing to ever hit this site. Damn...   NateZ Posted on Saturday, October 26, 2002 - 12:01 am:    yeah, it's a site to behold. Best thing is the owner is one of the kindest people you will ever meet with appreciation from cars like 'ricer' kitted out 300zx's to modena's and lambo's. If you look closely, you can see the lamborghini and 300zx share identical headlight housings. The owner verified it for me, he said on the lambo they added on a small carbon fivber lip to the top of the light to cover up this Nissan name =)   KJ Posted on Saturday, October 26, 2002 - 12:13 am:    Dude owns waterfront, too. Karen   Curtis N (Curtis) Posted on Saturday, October 26, 2002 - 01:11 am:    Nate - don't go there dude I love Z's simply because I can afford one. The Italian cars are in a completely different league, and that league is differentiated not by what is on the car, but what is in the car. Bang for the buck, the Z wins hands down, but still... KJ - you are a horse gal right? Ever hear of a trainer named John Rhodes? Curtis   NateZ Posted on Saturday, October 26, 2002 - 01:27 am:    Helll no, I was definetely not comparing the cars together. I'm not that dumb =) His Z is very highly modified, but in the end it's still a Nissan not a Porsche or Ferrari. I was just posting the pics because I saw the 360ModenaF1 screen name and was trying to show that even someone high up who owns a ferrari can appreciate a 300zx with a bodykit or whatever =)   Curtis N (Curtis) Posted on Saturday, October 26, 2002 - 01:47 am:    LOL - I didn't think so, and I doubt the poster behind the screen namae owns a 360 Modena. Those folks don't have spare time to hang around Disco boards KJ - Ooops - I meant John Lyons. Curtis   Rans (Rans) Posted on Saturday, October 26, 2002 - 08:28 am:    Nate, I love what you did to your Z. I've always thought that the 300ZX was by far the most beautiful of the Z cars, and by far the best thing that EVER came from Nissan. I am not a fan of Nissan overall, but I like the 300ZX. You did an excellant job, and don't let the negative somments bother you, and better yet, don't ever let them know that the comments bother you.....cuz like piranha they will eat you up until you die if they know! Enjoy your D1, put whatever wheels you want and can find on it, and use it as you see fit. Peace man.   KJ Posted on Saturday, October 26, 2002 - 09:13 am:    Curtis, Sure, John Lyons has been around a long time. His son has pretty much taken over the family business, though I think his dad still does a few clinics here and there. I don't know them personally, but their methods seem pretty sound, which you can't say for many of the people involved in the horse world. Do you know them? Karen, out to teach riding in a little bit   Glenn Guinto (Glenn) Posted on Saturday, October 26, 2002 - 10:50 am:    Nate, I think I found a solution for your quest for the 18s. I always believed in the saying "whatever floats your boat" so, I think what you're trying to do is okay. I don't think you need anyones approval or blessing...hehehe There's a company in England that I found from my old LR magazines that sold wheel hub adapters to fit the New RR 18 inch bolt pattern to the D1s and Classic rangie. I don't remember how much they were, I will scan it tonight and post it here. Stay tuned! -glenn Z car fanatic as well, but I only have luke warm feelings for the newZ. The first car that I ever bought with my own money was an '83 280Z turbo.... May she rest in peace!   Curtis N (Curtis) Posted on Saturday, October 26, 2002 - 04:53 pm:    KJ, He is my wifes uncle. I went to one of his symposiums yesterday and all of these people were clammoring over him wanting autographed books, posters, & videotapes. It was really strange. I have always seen him as "uncle John". Cowboy who lives on a ranch with my father-in law in Colorado. I had no idea he had such a following so I thought I would check with you to be sure he is the real deal. I guess he is. Not sure how much of the business Josh does. I know John has been grooming him to take over 'cuz John is not getting any younger. Still - John is all over the world with this stuff. I am not an equestrian, but I did learn quite a bit about breaking a horse yesterday and today. Neat stuff. He has this technique of putting his hand in the horses mouth until it does what you want it to do as a form of bit training. I know he will be up in Mass. next weekend for an Equine Festival of some sort. If you are going, you should check out his clinic there. Curtis   KJ Posted on Saturday, October 26, 2002 - 05:18 pm:    Curtis, Another case of small world! Yes, "Uncle John" has been around doing this stuff for a long time. I've never attended any of his clinics, but I've never heard a bad thing about him. I don't know that what he does is unique to him, or invented by him, but it's always sounded sound and useful. A lot of people don't have any instruction at all, and I think he's able to give them guidance they wouldn't otherwise have. There has been a sort of affection in the past few years for "cowboy" training methods, and that hasn't always been a good thing for horses OR people. Monty Roberts is a disaster and regrettably has been lauded in the popular media more than any of the rest. He's the one who popularized the term "horse whisperer", or at least glommed onto it after the book of the same name came out. People like John Lyons and Pat Parelli are more sound in their methods but are more known only in the horse world. Truth is, there's nothing new under the sun regarding training horses. My views on this have been published. This "horse whispering" thing (god, I HATE that term!) is NOT new, and is really a twisting of sound methodologies for packaging and profit motive. Understand, I'm slamming Monty and his ilk here, not the Lyons. Though I've not attended their events, I've always had the feeling the Lyons had it going on. OTOH, I've seen Monty do things on film that could easily result in getting people and animals injured or worse. AND the "results" he's gotten in the films I've seen is highly dubious. Adding insult to potential injury, he tells you HE invented many of the methods that good trainers have been using for literally thousands of years. Then he goes off on some wild tangent that only the gullible and unexposed believe and that provokes my smackin' upside the haid reflex. LOL, good thing you never asked me what I thought, eh? Karen   Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Posted on Saturday, October 26, 2002 - 05:51 pm:    Oh Yes, My favorite is still the 70's era Z cars because they were a pure, fun to drive sports car. Funny thing about this thread mentioning the 360 Modena. Last week, while in England I saw two of them. A red one motoring on the M27 and a silver one at the Heathrow Airport. Pure car porn if I may... FWIW, As far as aftermarket rims or "dubs" are concerned. I would say that 80% of all Rovers I saw in England last week had steel rims and some type of dirt oriented tire. Sure, if you stayed around the city there are plenty of Rangies and Disco's that are imaculant and running the stock alloys. But, As you head out of London and into the country, there were more D1's and Defenders that were farm ready than anything else. So I guess what I am trying to say is....even in the LR Motherland, there aren't many people installing large shiny rims. Paul '00 Pig   Curtis N (Curtis) Posted on Saturday, October 26, 2002 - 11:51 pm:    Karen, I know John would agree that it is nothing new. He simply called it "Replacement Theory" or something like that. Said I could use it on my kids as well (and I do ) Most of the attendees appeared somewhat inexperienced and much of what he said was very basic in reality. It was just said in a manner that was easy to understand and implement. As far as the marketing goes. Damn. he had everything from books, to videos, to Signature horse food, bridles, bits, tack, and all that stuff. When I was at the ranch last, they had converted a 12 stall, two-story barn into a warehouse to keep all the crap for clinics. Horse Whisperer...um...well, it did refer to a CBS news comment to that effect about John on a Breyer Model Horse box that he donated to my sons school auction. We won't hold that against him though 'cuz it was Breyer who said it The ranch is an amazing operation because it is not just a ranch, but also his business center as well. We shoot over there a couple of times a year to relax and let the kids play with horses, pick manure, and all that good stuff. Sooo - I guess we successfully pulled this thread off topic. Good thing it is in no-tech Curtis   NateZ Posted on Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 02:57 pm:    Glen, I'm eagerly anticipating your post =) The option for me buying the range rover factory wheels is still on the table, so if the hub adapters are reasonably priced then that would work out great. I'm also not too fond of the new 350z. It's actually a lot nicer in person if you haven't sdeen one, but it seems to soft, like it competes with celicas and other less end cars, not anything high end like the z32 did when it was introduced in 1990. Thanks in advance for the info Glenn Nate   JS (Sumerianj) Posted on Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 08:10 pm:    Nate, I understand where you're coming from. I have a D1 and I want the 18's as well. I think we should've bought a D2. It would've been easier finding rims. I will keep a look out for the url link that glen's gonna post. But in the meantime, I have an 88 300zx that I have just about completely restored ( no aftermarket stuff, just all original). I'm looking for an 84 anniversary edition in excellent condition. Do you have any idea as to where I should start looking?   Glenn Guinto (Glenn) Posted on Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 08:33 pm:    Nate, Here ya go! Sorry for the delay... Goodluck! Let us know how you make out. -glenn   Nadir Ali (Nate) Posted on Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 08:48 pm:    ..   Nadir Ali (Nate) Posted on Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 08:50 pm:    .   Nadir Ali (Nate) Posted on Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 08:50 pm:    JS, Try www.z31.com It's a great website for info on the first gen 300ZX. I would like to have a Series II also, but I purchased my disco before the series II was released, and with what these cars are worth now, it's not really worth me selling the series 1 to get a series II. Glenn, Thanks a lot! I found this also and copy pasted it from the pdf file. I'll be contacting both places tomorrow! The wheels on the discovery in your picture are the same ones being offered to me except chrome plated. heres the link: www.imthedevil.net/uppics/nonzrelated/hubadapt.jpg   Jeremy Katka (Jkatka) Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 12:50 am:    Well look at http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1871314263 you might ask them what brand the rims are... JK   Nadir Ali (Nate) Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 12:59 am:    bleh! I'd rather shoot myself before I put those wheels on my car. I was messing around on tirerack.com looking at wheels for the disco II, and it just so happens that thyey use a pic of the disco I to represent the disco II. Heres a pic with 19" milli miglias. The only thing I did to the pic was darken the windows. I honestly don't think it looks to over the top, especially compared to the wheels on the rover in the ebay auction. http://www.imthedevil.net/uppics/nonzrelated/iscotech.JPG   KJ Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 11:05 am:    Curtis, I think you got it in one. What Uncle John does best is make these techniques accessible and easily understood for novices, which can only be a good thing. Oh, I knew he had a major marketing thing going on, but at least it sounds like he has something worth selling, unlike some others in his field. Don't know about the feeds and the like, I leave that stuff to the multi-million $$$ R&D of Purina. I figure they pretty much have it worked out, as do several other companies. Well, we HAD this thread off the tracks and into the ditch, but don't you know these truck boys winched it back out, LOL! Karen ;)   Curtis N (Curtis) Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 04:22 pm:    Karen, Well, I guess the best we can do is ropes the horse back into the ditch. As far as the feeds, they are made by some big company. They just sponsor him and give him his own line with a big pic and signature on the front. He is not the type to go doing that stuff himself. It is interesting to see though becuase it seems like a much bigger industry than, say...Rover parts Curtis   KJ Posted on Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 01:34 am:    "Horses, the original four wheel drive" There, we're back on topic again, Curtis! LOL! Karen   Charlie Posted on Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 01:46 pm:    Natez, Did you bought a Z with automatic shift? I don't see the pad for the clutch? ---Charlie   Dee Cantrell (Discodad) Posted on Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 12:57 am:    Real Mans Wheels   Dee Cantrell (Discodad) Posted on Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 12:57 am:    The best steel wheels made