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Author Message   Paul Schuetz (Schuetz) Posted on Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 05:31 am:    Just for shits and giggles, what does everyone do? I'm just a lowly California farmer.   Zak Ruck (Zak) Posted on Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 07:49 am:    Farmer, there is nothing lowly about that. I'm an IT Systems administrator, aspiring to be a farmer. Can't take corporate America anymore!!!!!   Robert Sublett (Rubisco98) Posted on Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 07:57 am:    I'm a seismologist. We primarily deal with rock quarries and the construction side of things. We don't monitor for earthquakes or anything like that. Any type of activity that requires blasting in any form, I am usually there. I work for Saul's Seismic, Inc. out of Knoxville, TN. www.saulsseismic.com   Jason Bard (Jbard) Posted on Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 08:22 am:    Project Manager for the leading material handling company in the world specializing in high speed electronic tilt tray sortation systems. www.fkilogistex.com Lowly farmer? What are you talking about? I respect that man.... jjbard   Zak Ruck (Zak) Posted on Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 08:24 am:    Oh yeah, I work for an Architecture and Engineering company, CUH2A, Inc. www.cuh2a.com   Rans (Rans) Posted on Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 08:45 am:    I am a Senior Applications Programming Specialist for one of the largest Life Insurance Companies in the USA. Glad as hell not to be on the management side of things there, they make more money, but they have far more stressful work, and they really have NO idea what they are doing.....I'm just a grunt programmer with all the knowledge they need!! LOL   todd slater (Toddslater) Posted on Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 09:04 am:    Environmnental Engineer, work for a rather large french owned petro chemical co. Mainly remediation/superfund work...sins of the past stuff. Also, wear contracts and innovative technology hats. 23 years at it and there is always something unexpected popping up to fix.   Todd Sanders (Sanderskog) Posted on Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 09:16 am:    Typical IT Middle Management Shmuck. I work for a large cellular company that promised to help me get a mlife (). I REALLY hate that stupid ad campaign... now if I could find whose idea it was . Todd   Bill M. (Circekat) Posted on Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 09:42 am:    Retired Navy Chief Electrician, currently a manufacturing programmer & maintenance technician, soon to be a maintenance engineer at another company, and volunteer firefighter. Bill M. An unknown (not Yankee, not Southern) in South Carolina.   gp (Garrett) Posted on Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 09:43 am:    i now work too much. it sucks. as you might have noticed in the past 3-4 months my posts have reduced. and i am sure you all are very sadened by this. cuh2a sucks by the way. stay away from them and zak. he has poo issues. haha. shit i work for an A/E firm too. site designer/urban planning is my gig. basically alot of damn rendering. ugh.   Andrew Clarke (Aclarke) Posted on Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 10:04 am:    I'm independently wealthy. j/k. Internet/database/e-commerce development & consulting. I got my degree in Civil Engineering though and tried it out for a bit, so does that mean I can join that club too? Plus my dad was a farmer...   mantaray (Mantaray) Posted on Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 11:19 am:    i'm a graduate architect. just means i'm still in the intern period before i'm allowed to take my lisencing exam, like residency for a doctor. i work for an A&E firm in Lynchburg, i hate it. trying to move to Raleigh if anyone could help me out.   Pugsly Posted on Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 11:26 am:    Raleigh is a nice place - grew up there. I now live in SFBA for a big diversified healthcare company in Operations.   Jason Lord (Ronan) Posted on Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 11:55 am:    Work as an ER and ICU doc in Ontario. Busy with bizarre hours but still manage to check the board daily Jason   Jason Lord (Ronan) Posted on Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 01:32 pm:    Oh yeah - and I couldnt grow anything if my life depended on it LOL. Jason   Ron Jeremy Posted on Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 03:50 pm:    Adult Entertainment   Eric N (Grnrvr) Posted on Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 04:12 pm:    Principal Data Network Engineer for a Global Telcom company. Not the time to be in the Telcom industry cause people and companies are dropping like flies.   Phillip Perkinson (R0ver4x4) Posted on Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 05:36 pm:    Student??   Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Posted on Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 05:50 pm:    Geologist. Work for the state, in the coal-mining regulatory program. Review permit applications, conduct complaint investigations, do some reclamation design work, a little PR work, whatever needs done.... -L   tbob Posted on Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 05:53 pm:    Hi- Presently a SAHD and formerly in sales and a student. I also spent 7 years in the coffee biz wearing many hats i.e. buyer, sales, AR, ect. I hope to return to it in some way again. Until then I have a really a big ol' garage to build that will house my Rover this winter. It's funny, finally building a garage is of the cooest things I've done in years aside from buying my house. I am certainly getting old. Anyone else out there as simple as me?   Rob Davison (Pokerob) Posted on Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 06:12 pm:    i am as simple as you bob, my dream house consists of a 6 car garage (3 wide x 2 deep) with a pit under the middle bay, and hydraulic lift on the one of the sides. old fashioned wooden bar the length of the back , with coolers. a shit house in the corner with shower. on top all the other shit that makes it a house. rd   Rick Lindgren (Slacker) Posted on Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 07:17 pm:    Leslie, what made you get into geology? How is it as a source of employment? I keep kicking around the idea of getting the hell out of the IT industry, getting a degree in geology, and going to break rocks in the sun somewhere. Poor, stress free, and sun-tanned. I don't know if there is any reality in that or not but it's good to have a dream. Oh yeah, I'm a UNIX System Admin. Rick   Will Bobbitt (Rkores) Posted on Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 08:20 pm:    I am a High School senior trying to get into college!!! Anybody on here that could get a brother into school somewhere?!?! Hahaha...I do have a job in the summers. I work at a Boy Scout Camp; this past summer I did a four wheel drive program there. If anybody wants free food, free housing, a little bit of pay, and a fun time off-roading this summer e-mail me! Will Bobbitt Trekboyy5@aol.com   Carter Simcoe (Carter) Posted on Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 09:02 pm:    Broke-ass college student right now. What schools or area of the country are you looking at Will???   mongo Posted on Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 10:18 pm:    RF Engineer(EE,ME,)...means that I work all the time, all over the world...making TV pictures...big shows, Olympics,Ryder Cup, US Golf Open, Marathons...would rather be a farmer... Frank   Blake Luse (Muddyrover) Posted on Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 10:43 pm:    I'm the same as Carter poor and in college but lovin it   EricV (Bender2033) Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 12:36 am:    Unix Geek. Grep this.   Gregg Smith (Discogregg) Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 01:38 am:    Middle Manager for a cell phone maker. I handle secondary markets for the Americas basically. I owe Todd Sanders a phone.   Peter Carey (Pcarey) Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 01:59 am:    Email Systems Admin. School's for pansies. I was going for a degree in Forest Resource Management and then realized computers grow faster than trees. pwc   Tommy Dougherty (Skydiver) Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 05:12 am:    My regular job (working in the music industry) is Information Systems Mgr / Network Mgr - and Artist Relations Mgr (I'm the contact for major bands wanting custom items and such.) My 'weekend' job is a Skydiving Videographer... where I jump with students and video them in freefall. It's a fun job. $$ I make doing the video stuff is my 'play' $$, which is always nice to have! -Tommy   Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 06:56 am:    Aerospace. After turning wrenches for 14 years, I now work product support in the field for Boeing. It's a cool job because it funds my Rover Habit. Paul '00 Pig   Zak Ruck (Zak) Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 07:31 am:    Note to self, do not work on a rover with Paul after he has eaten chili........   Steve Andrews (Sillybus) Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 07:55 am:    Chief Developer for the Internet Applications & Development faction of a federal government contractor in Rockville.   ken knebusch (Charlotterover) Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 08:11 am:    manufacturing..solenoid valves   Onionman Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 08:14 am:    Landscape Architect working for the Kansas Department of Transportation: Safety Rest Areas, erosion control, transportation enhancement projects, bicycle and pedestrian path/trail systems, and scenic byways program. (Yes, there is beautiful scenery in Kansas. Subtle, but beautiful.)   Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 08:26 am:    Rick, I, like many other geologists, was majoring in something else in college, took a geology class to meet a science requirement, and discovered that I was a geologist... it just clicked. It's not a job-rich field, but, if you're good at it and love it, then you keep combing until you find the right position. A BS won't get you far in geology, just lab-tech jobs mostly, but if you go on and get an MS degree, then you'll open up a lot more doors... A PhD helps, too. In some fields, it's a hindrance unless you're going to be a professor, but not really in geology... a lot of positions in the USGS are all PhD jobs, but aren't professors. There are jobs as consultants, with the government, with universities, and with some form of mining (be it coal, oil, gas, zinc, lead, gold, etc., whatever commodity you can name....) "If it can't be grown, it has to be mined".... Some sub-fields, like paleontology, have an appeal because you're out in the field hunting for fossils, but that really doesn't pay well..... lots of people actually pay for the opportunity to do that work, really... It's a hobby, but not one I do a lot, just occasionally. Prospecting, usually for gold, is another hobby that gets a lot of people into geology. Actually, the whole reason geology got started as a science was to methodically figure out where to look, instead of just hunting and pecking at rocks, trying to find diamonds, etc. But, it's kind of nice to have an office w/ a decent computer workstation, then get to get a Jeep out of the motor pool and go bounce down the backroads and up on old mine-sites.... -L   Rans (Rans) Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 08:41 am:    Clarification on Pauls work....he still turns wrenches, but instead of doing it for pay, he helps out his friends with installations and the like. Thanks Paul! (and Greg Parrish and Zak too!)   gp (Garrett) Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 09:21 am:    onionman. wow. another LA. don't see many of them around. where did you go to school? K state?   charles pastrano (Charles) Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 09:28 am:    I own a landscape company. Not maintenance. Install only. Use to be management for Citibank 8 years. Will never work for corporate america or anyone else other than my clients again. Charles   William C. Leek (Onionman) Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 09:41 am:    Garrett, Yes, Kansas State University. BS in Geography, Master of Landscape Architecture, 1970's. How about yourself? Bill   Erik Geagan (Geagan) Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 09:42 am:    I am a Operation Manager for a very large seafood company in Boston. But would love more money so I can afford the repairs on my 1998 disco.   alhang Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 10:39 am:    systems analyst for a large sporting goods company(3rd IT job in last 2 yrs. gosh i love the tech sector's stability!!) part time linux tutor for rednecks... if you ever thought Kyle was harsh, try teaching him VI and Apache.   Neal Glessner (Nealg) Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 10:45 am:    I masturbate small farm animals for artificial insemination.   KJ Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 10:55 am:    Horse trainer and riding instructor. Own my own farm and riding academy. Only thing we grow is the manure pile. Great life, though I wish I could vacation a little more since it's a 24/7 proposition to keep going. Onionman, gp was barely ALIVE in the '70's! Well, he was alive, but only growing manure then, too, LOL! Karen   Ken Tipton (Irish_Nv) Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 11:26 am:    I'm a RF engineer consultant for cellular phone companys. I design and maintain their cellular networks(anteneas not routers)I help them define coverage holes and then offer solutions. So when your on the phone and you drop a call You can blame me. Just don't call me.   Carter Simcoe (Carter) Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 11:27 am:    Can you hear me now Ken??? -I am sorry that is probably the stupidest thing ever said on this board and god I hate those commercials   gp (Garrett) Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 11:41 am:    yeah born in '71, but live like '69!! haha. i graduated in '94 from Penn State with a BS in LA. worked in VT for many years doing ski resort master planning and then moved back to this damn town. haha. all good. had my own office and now we have merged with a big ass office......L. Robert Kimball. ugh. have to wear a damn tie and coat every day. not happy with that. grew up with LA and architecture all the time. i had no choice but to do it. my dad was at HOK for 21 years then dean at PSU for 15. it can be fun. depends who your clients are and who you work with. makes all the difference man. K state has a great program. i remember knowing that. sure my pops knows some of the folks there.   Zak Ruck (Zak) Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 11:48 am:    So, Garrett, what type of shrubbery would you recomend for a shadded, boggy area in zone 6?   William C. Leek (Onionman) Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 11:50 am:    Wow, Garrett. "Who's your Daddy?" Did he work in the St. Louis office? I'm from St. Louis, too. Used to know some folks working at HOK there. KJ, Kansas has been known to produce more than its fair share of manure, mostly of the bovine variety. As they say around here, "It smells like money." Bill   Ken Tipton (Irish_Nv) Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 11:59 am:    Carter Funny thing is I work with alot of engineers (duh) but anyway I don't know how I ended up a engineer I am just laid back do my job and like to mess around alot. In my five years I have only meet one other engineer that doesn't act like one. In my office when that ad came out you had a bunch of pocket protector geeks running saying "can you here me know" "can you here me know" "can you here me know". And laughing thieir asses of like is was some now stand up bit from Dice Clay. Also most of the engineers I work with are form India. So in your best indian accent(east indian)"Can you be earing me now" Definatly a scene right out of revenge of the nerds. Thanks for making me relive that one   Todd Sanders (Sanderskog) Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 12:26 pm:    I'll be posting Ken's cellular number shortly... Funny thing, all my friends have complained to me about coverage for the past 8 years (as long as I've worked here). I keep telling them, "unless, it's a router, switch, or hub I could give a rats ass.". Personally, I like it when my cell phone doesn't ring. Took me years to find a house with no coverage. Although I'm on-call 24x7x365 so maybe that's why. Todd   Charlie Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 12:31 pm:    Lots of Civil Engineering / Engineering here. I got my BS in Civil Engineering too, but went on to master in finance. It seems like I am the only one working in finance. Risk Management - Wells Fargo ---Charlie   gp (Garrett) Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 12:52 pm:    kiss my ass Zak. haha. i have got your zone 6 right here in my pants!! yeah i get that shit all the time. but now we have the architects working for us now. and they ain't liking it. yeah i use to live in st. louis. he was VP there until he became Pres. of HOK associates and then left in '85. Geo Obata and George Hellmuth were still there. my dads name was Neil Porterfield. he starting the Planning Dept. back in the '63 and has now grown to over 500 employees in just that dept. HOK is now over 2K. Geo Obata is the only founding father that still works there. he has no ownership anymore, but just has an office and does projects here and there. we moved from st. louis (thank god) and came to PSU and he has been here ever since. he graduated from PSU in '58 and UPenn around '60. his teachers were McHarg and Eckbo.......whom i was named after. (Garrett Eckbo) we lived in Kirkwood/Oakland. our house was on the 15th hole of Westborough CC. not sure if you know that area at all, but that was my playground for 15 years. what part of st. louis where you in? we still go back once in a while. my brother went to John Burroughs in Clayton and he has lots of buddies from there that still live in the area. oh the stories..............haha.   Blue (Bluegill) Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 01:13 pm:    Geologist   Greg Davis (Gregdavis) Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 01:27 pm:    Financial Advisor. Part-time bumper builder.   Erik Olson (Jon) Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 01:33 pm:    GM for San Francisco unit of a live-event staging company and independent filmmaker. Oh, Neal - "I have nipples - could you milk me?" e   Erik Olson (Jon) Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 01:35 pm:    Paul, Just how realistic is a career in organic farming - you know, retiring cityfolk breaking-up real farms with "small-farming" operation kinda operation? I have grown exotic garlics for a number of years now, and I'd love to spend my days in a field. e   gp (Garrett) Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 01:49 pm:    well i have a good buddy in VT doing just that. organic farmer. basically sells all his produce to local restaurants in burlington and montreal. also been tapping alot of maples and producing maple syrup as well. but then again the whole organic experience is much more popular in Vermont. then again so is same sex marriage.   Blue (Bluegill) Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 01:59 pm:    how "good" is your VT good buddy, Garrett? Is his pet name for you "Maple"?   Steve Andrews (Sillybus) Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 02:02 pm:    Bail out on life and join "The Farm" in Tennessee. Thats some hard-core farming.   William C. Leek (Onionman) Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 02:18 pm:    Garrett, I recognize your father's name from reading ASLA material and such, though I don't believe we've ever met. I lived in Maplewood through high school, then moved to Kansas to attend KSU. Been in the Kansas City ever since. Yes, I also recognize the names Garrett Eckbo and Ian McHarg. And, yes, I know the Kirkwood and Clayton and Webster Groves areas very well. My parents and several brothers still live in the St. Louis area. Small world.   the Big Daddy Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 02:39 pm:    Nipples... Tapping ... Damn , Garrett your making me HOT   gp (Garrett) Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 02:44 pm:    blue. he is not that "good", but you might disagree with me. he does wear Carhartt's and lots of plaid, so i am not sure how this fairs with you? my pet name with most ladies is Oak anyhow. bill. yeah my dad has gotten around and unfortunately i am not following in his footsteps. meaning that i don't see myself being as well known as him.......ever. but that is cool with me. haha. but he was lucky too. got a job with HOK in '62 just and was able to start a planning dept from scratch. and the rest is history. been pretty interesting and fun though having been able to see some of the work he has done over the years and able to travel a little with him too. (i.e alaskian pipeline, lake placid master plan, universities in saudi arabia, etc) don't see myself doing that kind of work anytime soon. well KC is where HOK has their headquarters for their sports facilities group. or is it KC, Missouri? but they do some great things. just about all the new ball stadiums are done by them. yeah Webster was always a huge rival with us Kirkwood kids. i grew up playing hockey for Kirkwood. both my brother and i. hell Pat Lafontain (sp?) lived just down the road. played on the US olympic team in '80. yeah small world for sure. maplewood? heard of it, but forget where that is. where are you working?   Rans (Rans) Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 03:12 pm:    Isn't 'MapleWood' where your friend lives in Vermont??   gp (Garrett) Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 03:33 pm:    damn. it just never ends with you freaks. i guess i start my own little battles. buy in Garrettville i always win. not today. haha. but in Ransville all rovers are pink and home of the only known nude all male Wet Willys Water Park. and complimentary 'reach around' thursdays!!!   Rob Davison (Pokerob) Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 04:12 pm:    Garrett, back to work man.... your new bosses are not going to stand for this. rd   Robb Sundmaker (Robb) Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 04:21 pm:    Senior Tax Accountant (CPA) at a CPA firm in Atlanta, GA.   Rob Davison (Pokerob) Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 04:46 pm:    oops   Chad Meyer (Ccdm3) Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 05:03 pm:    Social Worker in Webster Groves, MO. Did I mention that I'm BROKE! Anyone want to give me a job with an acronym?   Mike (Gfy) Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 05:14 pm:    I hate to admit it...but I'm in sales...apparently Gregg Smith and I work for the same company. It's a small world after all... Used to be an engineer, but money is MUCH better in sales. Besides, now I can just play dumb and no one thinks twice about it...   B-Mc (Mcartist) Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 05:36 pm:    Graphic Artist/Art Director + Well Driller + Guiness drinker I make purdy pictures... the drilling thing is with my family mostly just for fun (gets me out of the office and away from a computer)... the guinness is a hobby   gp (Garrett) Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 06:24 pm:    damn. and chad there is from webster. small little world. is there still an Emo's Pizza in webster? how about working at one of the nice riverboats in east st. louis? yeah i am waiting for them to shut me down at work rob. been getting some emails blocked due to foul language. haha. oh that is funny. i have been kicking ass though at the new office. don't think they would get rid of me right now if they found all kinds of midget porn on my PC. well maybe midget porn, but not the regular stuff. haha.   jim Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 06:41 pm:    My full time job is a Solutions Architect for a Flight/Ground simulator company I design visual systems for flight and ground warfare simulators along with commercial airlines. My other job is an Network Systems consultant/Graphics Designer (video,web,print,and photography) mostly consulting.   Carter Simcoe (Carter) Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 07:23 pm:    I thought all Land Rover owners were so rich that they didn't have to work???   Jon Santana (Mustache) Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 07:32 pm:    i look at discoweb for a living. i have a side job as a marketing manager of the company that makes the little sprinklers going up & down in your yard.   Chad Meyer (Ccdm3) Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 09:11 pm:    Garrette, yes there is an Imo's on nearly every block in Stl.   John Moore (Jmoore) Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 09:30 pm:    I'm a Sales Rep for a Large Record Company. Stop downloading music now and buy those $20 CD's for one song, so I can afford my Land Rover. -John   Christopher Dynak (Adtoolco) Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 10:09 pm:    I own my own precision machine shop. I make parts, widgets & whatsits, gages, & fixtures for aircraft, steam turbine, and misc. local manufacturers.   Neal Glessner (Nealg) Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 10:36 pm:    I am part owner and General Manager of an electronic security and interconnect telecommunications company. I just thought I would clarify things a little. I was joking when I said previously in this thread that "I masturbate small farm animals for artificial insemination". I usually get a chuckle when I tell people that is what I do. Since no one reacted, I was afraid that everyone thought I was serious.   muskyman Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 11:39 pm:    neal cut the bullshit and get back to work there's a hamster in your office DR Glessner   GregH Posted on Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 12:34 am:    Own a healthcare company providing services to developmentally disabled-previously was a regional administrator for healthcare services companies for 12 years. Graduated '87 UC Riverside BA Business Economics.   KJ Posted on Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 01:29 am:    The best thing about this thread, other than Neal professing his ardor for medium sized farm animals (lest we think it WAS smalls! ACK!), is how everyone just talks past gp and his zone 6 oaken chat......LOL! Damned tree humper...... Karen   Ho Chung (Ho) Posted on Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 01:29 am:    neal, too late now.   Ho Chung (Ho) Posted on Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 01:33 am:    i am a struggling immigrant.   KJ Posted on Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 01:37 am:    "I was born a poor black child....." Karen   MTB Posted on Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 04:48 am:    Nightshift factory Mgr. for a Membrane Switch and BioMedical Sensor printing co. Also a HHW and still waiting for Karen to call.   Tom V (Cozmo) Posted on Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 06:35 am:    Former Horse trainer. I followed the the old horse racing saying "How do you make a small fortune in the horse business? Start with a large one." Only problem I didn't start with a large one.....or a small one for that matter. Now I drive a truck for Fedex express.   gp (Garrett) Posted on Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 07:38 am:    i believe that was a quote from The Jerk Karen. "you mean i'm gonna stay this color!?" i was not the one that brought up trees Karen. trees need lovin' too and i am not one to pass up a hottie birch, beech, hemlock, oak, maple, ginko, etc. love is love man. just spreading it around that's all.   adtoolco Posted on Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 09:53 am:    There are so many inside jokes on board.   adtoolco Posted on Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 09:55 am:    ..."this" board.   Rob Davison (Pokerob) Posted on Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 10:02 am:    LOL, deep man, with and with out "this" rd this is shit and this is shinola, son you gonna be alllll right   Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Posted on Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 10:03 am:    Well, I thought I would take a break from busting my ass at work and check in......   Germán R. Grüner (Germán) Posted on Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 10:25 am:    Electronic engineer, production head in a fiberoptic cable plant, the last remaining in Argentina (here in the bottom of the map).   KJ Posted on Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 10:35 am:    gp, you'd tree hump a stinko ginko??? That's seriously desperate.....and you call ME The Jerk Karen???? (Punctuation changes everything, LOL) Tom, that's an oldie but goodie truism, isn't it? The track is a tough room to play. Ho, one of the nicest race horses I ever knew was named "Immigrant". Two broken coffin bones and you still couldn't beat him. adtoolco, there are no inside jokes here. None of us understand one another, we just pretend we do. Paul, make sure your busted ass doesn't end up in a sling before day's end..... Rob Wood....... got winch? Karen   B-Mc (Mcartist) Posted on Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 10:45 am:    "I don't want to sell anything, buy anything or process anything as a career. I don't want to sell anything bought or processed... or buy anything sold or processed... or process anything sold, bought or processed... or repair anything sold, bought or processed. You know, as a career, I don't want to do that." -- Lloyd Dobler   Ross Thoma (Rossthoma) Posted on Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 11:04 am:    I am currently a jeweler in downtown Chicago and will soon be a SAHD this spring when we move to Traverse City, MI. But until 2000 I was in the geophysical and natural resources line of work in Canada. Ross Thoma   AsphaltGypsy Posted on Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 12:14 pm:    I'm a SAHUPE (stay at home unemployed pavement engineer). Anyone need a nice asphalt pavement highway designed and tested???? Don   Jason Bard (Jbard) Posted on Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 12:46 pm:    Pavement? Who needs pavement! LOL   Peter W. Pfeifer (Pwp) Posted on Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 12:54 pm:    I own a high tech C.N.C. machine shop just oustside of Chicago. We manufacture parts for various industries, medical, automotive, defense, bla bla bla.....oh even stuff for my rover. Peter   David Caton (Catonincarolina) Posted on Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 12:58 pm:    Another IT Disco owner here... work in a law firm as systems support.   Rob Davison (Pokerob) Posted on Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 02:51 pm:    mr gypsy, on behalf of the residents of pennsylvania i request your services for every last road in our commonwealth. rd   Rob Davison (Pokerob) Posted on Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 02:59 pm:    i am a hand model, i can pose for all your watch or ring needs. rd   gp (Garrett) Posted on Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 03:00 pm:    yeah but that is what winter is for Rob. fills in the potholes nicely. that is the only time of year the roads are in great shape. but then again maybe if we used concrete more we would not have these issues. ooops. that may be a sore spot with mr. gypsy though. sorry. snowing down there? getting some nice big 'ol flakes up here. up to 4" by the a.m.   Blue (Bluegill) Posted on Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 03:55 pm:    Garrett, try Head & Shoulders or Selsum Blue   Rob Davison (Pokerob) Posted on Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 05:44 pm:    bastard! it's just rainning all damn day... let's freeze this shit so i dont get wet! rob   Milan Posted on Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 06:15 pm:    Systems analyst/programmer/DBA consultant has-been. I have been unemployed since Aug. And they said computers have future.   Rick Lindgren (Slacker) Posted on Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 12:04 am:    Ho, did you say you're "a struggling immigrant" or you're "smuggling immigrants"? You can get in a lot of trouble for that, man. You should keep a lower profile.   Wes Legaspi (Wes) Posted on Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 01:31 am:    I'm a Currency Handling Specialist...anyone else in this line of work?   jmon Posted on Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 03:31 am:    i was unemployed for about a year with the means to do what i wanted. a month a go i slipped into a great paying job doing consulting work for the child welfare dept of hawaii..which is still alowing me to do what i want, Surf and travel. the endless summer still continues....   gp (Garrett) Posted on Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 07:59 am:    how do you think Ho got the rest of the family over. in a special compartment he built in the disco that was shipped over. duh. well we only ended up with a few inches. but at least it was snow. now it is just crap out. nothing exciting at all. i was hoping to see some Caddy's and Lincolns all over the roads and paying me thousands to pull them off the curbs. oh well......didn't happen. or better yet some nice college ladies in their Acura's and VW's. "would you like to come in for some hot chocolate........was it Garrett?"   Steve Andrews (Sillybus) Posted on Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 10:50 am:    Neal: I thought you were serious. Its not that far fetched. One of my wife's cousins has a business that supplies bull semen to dairy farmers around the world. I don't know if he provides them with a copy of Hugh Heffer's "Playbull" and gives them the "reach-around" or there is a more automated method.   David Caton (Catonincarolina) Posted on Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 10:55 am:    So thats Garrett's idea for winter fun...... driving around the city streets on snow days looking for college women in distress.... or do you call it recovery practice? DC   Horness Spencer (Horness) Posted on Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 11:04 am:    After being made redundant a couple of weeks ago, I am finally back on the payroll as an IT Project Engineer. Formally a Systems Manager, and an IT Manager before that. You get the picture. Horness   Eric N (Grnrvr) Posted on Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 11:08 am:    I hate that word "redundant"... They use that here at my job when they let people go to. Told all of us that we are supossed to use Redundant instead of using Layoff, fired, let go, any word that tells it like it is.   Horness Spencer (Horness) Posted on Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 11:17 am:    I got made "redundant" because the company I moved to could not afford to take on me, and another person. They lost a couple of tenders, and hey presto, it's cheaper for them to out source it. Gone just before the probatory period, so no pay off or anything. I moved from a top (and fairly easy) job to them as well. Hopefully this one will pan out okay.   Eric Posted on Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 11:46 am:    Sr. Solutions Consultant for a company that manufactures robots. I work in the outsourcing department. MBA stuck in the paper chase of my life. Thinking I would give it all up to be a tow truck driver. Some industry analyst suggested that the average professional works about 3 hours each day. Or the average professional could get their work done in three hours if they really wanted to. Good Lord... what would be the point of that? What's the freaking rush? Who are we competing with? The French? Mexico? Oh yeah... I forgot. My Land Rover is an inch taller than yours. America, land of the free.   Michael Noe (Noee) Posted on Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 12:21 pm:    I've been a self-employed software engineer and systems consultant for over 10 years now in the same vertical segment. We specialize in .....aaahemmm.....making property and casualty insurance companys more efficient and, in the end, more profitable. I'm hoping in the next five years or so to become a certified A&P (aviation mechanic) to have something to fall back on when I get fed up. Speaking of words to hate. In our last large job, we were known as "defects". That's a Six Sigma term for those non-"quality" folks out there.   Eric N (Grnrvr) Posted on Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 12:24 pm:    So you help get people laid off Michael?   Michael Noe (Noee) Posted on Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 01:16 pm:    I'm sorry to say, in some cases in the past, yes. It was not a pleasant aspect to the work and I cannot rationalize it. On a recent job, we trained over 70 Indians in India to take the place of around 20 people here in the US. It was a "successful" transition. I'm happy to report, however, that after 18 months, they've decided to bring the jobs back to the US. The turnover in India is just too great not to mention the stability of the situation with Pakistan. In the end, the bean counters lost the arguments of cost/benefit to the practicalities of "the real world". In recent times (last 3 years) we have changed focus to ETL projects, specifically, Extracting data from agents' systems, Transforming it into insurance transactions and Loading it to company "back-end" systems, eliminating the need for the same data to be entered three and sometimes four times by the same individual. I take some comfort from this knowing that we are helping folks do there jobs more efficiently without the need to eliminate people from the process. SOrry for the rambling rationalization...   Eric Posted on Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 01:21 pm:    Getting laid off is the future, get used to the idea. The days when a guy worked 25 years at the same place are over. Watch what happens in the IT world if you want to see what your own life will be like ten years from now. The good news is that there is a huge population bubble that is going to pop. People will be in demand, wages will go up. My best suggestion is to learn spanish, get used to changing jobs frequntly, get friendly with placement firms in your industry. And above all, get your education, certifications, credentials etc. They will become more valuable than ever before.   Milan Posted on Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 02:35 pm:    I think Eric's hit the nail on the head but somehow I would prefer the stability of a 25yr job right now. Where's them darn Communists when you need them. The problem in my are is that even the agencies don't have as many positions available. I used to get opening emailed to me at a rate of 3-5a day. Now I get 1 or 2 every two weeks and they're very specific. Just did not think that with 14+ yrs of experience I'd have a hard time getting a job. Maybe I'm a dinosaur.   Milan (Milan) Posted on Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 02:42 pm:    I think Eric's hit the nail on the head but somehow I would prefer the stability of a 25yr job right now. Where's them darn Communists when you need them. The problem in my area is that even the agencies don't have as many positions available. I used to get openings emailed to me at a rate of 3-5 a day. Now I get 1 or 2 every two weeks and they're very specific. Just did not think that with 14+ yrs of experience I'd have a hard time getting a job. Maybe I'm a dinosaur.   David Gage (Davidg) Posted on Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 02:56 pm:    Self employed independent Land Rover parts guy. = >80 hours a week for no pay, but hey...you guys make it all worth while, OK, most of you guys any way. David (livin' the dream)   Greg H Posted on Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 04:52 pm:    College ladies!!! Do the trees know about this Garrett?!! Greg H   Alan Yim (Alan) Posted on Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 08:33 pm:    Wow, there seems to be a lot of people on here from the IT fields. I'm another one of those guys; a business analyst, lots of database and spreadsheet work but I dabble on other things too. A   Blake Luse (Muddyrover) Posted on Thursday, October 31, 2002 - 02:38 am:    i used to work at captain d's   gp (Garrett) Posted on Thursday, October 31, 2002 - 07:25 am:    captain D's? is that some kind of male strip bar? haha. yes college ladies. i am not THAT old damit! oh wait.........   Shawn McKenzie (Shawn) Posted on Sunday, November 03, 2002 - 01:26 am:    IT Change Management for Bell in Alberta. Saving the world one frustrated user at a time... There's snow in the (Real) Rockies though, about time to break out the sticks.   Alan Yim (Alan) Posted on Sunday, November 03, 2002 - 01:58 am:    You from Calgary Shawn? Some of the local ski hills here in Edmonton are open already. I heard that Lake Louise has one run open. Thinking of trying snowboarding this winter. Think I may like it but we'll see. Been skiing my whole life so not sure how easy it will be to pick up. A   BW Posted on Sunday, November 03, 2002 - 11:00 am:    U.S. Army (Jack of all, Master of none) BW   gordon sitts (Gsitts) Posted on Sunday, November 03, 2002 - 12:52 pm:    I 'm a Process computer and instrumentation designer/consultant and I own my own business. I mostly work for municipalities developing controls for water and waste treatment plants in the Southeast.   Ken Dunnington (Ihwillys) Posted on Monday, November 04, 2002 - 07:31 pm:    software developer. Hadn't heard Motorola's Six Sigma in awhile, that takes me back about 10 years... Ken   Todd W. McLain (Ganryu) Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2002 - 07:07 pm:    Internet Operations Manager, for a japanese telcom. Also, prior USMC that was stationed in Japan, caught a japanese bug and somehow ended up staying here, for some god awful reason.   Jake Hartley (Jake) Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2002 - 07:48 pm:    Federal Aviation Administration, Aviation Safety Inspector. Aerospace Engineer, MBA, former US Army Officer.....having fun on my hobby farm where wife grows organic tomatoes.   Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2002 - 08:11 pm:    Well Jake, That's nice to know. Paul A&P / Private Pilot   Ramsay (3toedsloth) Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2002 - 08:12 pm:    Ha! I'm a student/Vol. fire fighter in Hampden-Sydney, VA. But when I'm home, I do maintenance work at gas stations. Anyone want to pick up feces behind a dumpster with me this summer? Didn't think so... JR   Phillip Perkinson (R0ver4x4) Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2002 - 08:36 pm:    I was gonna go to Hampden Sydney but my sis went to boarding school in Richmond.