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Phillip Perkinson (R0ver4x4)
Posted on Monday, November 04, 2002 - 11:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I see them for sale in the dealerships, do any of yall wear em. I have the Beaufort its nice and keep briars at bay while hunting in cutovers.
 

Rob Davison (Pokerob)
Posted on Monday, November 04, 2002 - 12:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

i have the carpeting....

:)

or is that berber?

rd
 

gp (Garrett)
Posted on Monday, November 04, 2002 - 12:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

ask Karen (KJ) about this. i believe her and her hubby sport them. oh it brings me joy to say that.
i bought some in ireland 2 years ago (of another brand) and never wear it. i just feel i am not old enough.
i would not buy a thing at the dealer.....especially clothing. check around on the web and i am sure you can find it cheaper.
stop talking about carpet rob. like you need more wood. damn.
 

Bill Bettridge (Billb)
Posted on Monday, November 04, 2002 - 12:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Have them shipped from the UK - much cheaper than any US retailer sells them for - even with shipping.

not cold enough yet in Balto to get the Northumbria out yet :) (damn, what a yuppy I am)

Bill
 

James F. Thompson Jaime (Blueboy)
Posted on Monday, November 04, 2002 - 03:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Yeah, they are pretty nice. Got a great deal on mine in Japan from the local Tokyo LR dealer as it was a large and had been unsold for about 2 years! Sheds water, pretty warm, and briars don't stick to it. As it is oiled, just keep it away from your other coats.

Jaime
 

Carter Simcoe (Carter)
Posted on Monday, November 04, 2002 - 03:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Yuppies :) Go get some Gore-Tex
 

gp (Garrett)
Posted on Monday, November 04, 2002 - 03:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

yeah. i prefer my Mountain Hardwear anyday.
 

Patrick Kullenberg (Kullenberg)
Posted on Monday, November 04, 2002 - 04:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

LL Bean has a waxed cotton coat for about $159. Here is the web site of a friend of ours in Burford, Oxen, that stocks outdoor clothing: http://www.elmofburford.com/test/start.html
 

mongo
Posted on Monday, November 04, 2002 - 04:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Gore-Tex rules...Marmot, 3 ply can't beat it...

Frank
 

muskyman
Posted on Monday, November 04, 2002 - 05:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

if your gonna wear cotton at least make it filson

if you want gore-tex cabelas is the place

take it from me you cant fish muskys without good outerwear
 

Carter Simcoe (Carter)
Posted on Monday, November 04, 2002 - 05:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

yup, standing in a trout river mid-winter ain't no fun without it either. You ever caught a musky on a fly-rod muskyman??
 

muskyman
Posted on Monday, November 04, 2002 - 07:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

yes carter actually its one of my favorite things in the world
 

muskyman
Posted on Monday, November 04, 2002 - 07:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I was published back a decade ago in a number of outdoor magazines for my musky fly fishing
 

Phillip Perkinson (R0ver4x4)
Posted on Monday, November 04, 2002 - 07:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Barbour good for the woods. I like my mountain hardwear, thier warranty in unsurpassed. I have gotten one windstopper and one Ethereal FTX.
 

Rob Davison (Pokerob)
Posted on Monday, November 04, 2002 - 07:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

hey fill,, i blew out a zipper on a mnt hardwear, what are the chances of scoring a new jacket you think? :)

rd
 

Phillip Perkinson (R0ver4x4)
Posted on Monday, November 04, 2002 - 07:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

how old is the coat? what coat is it? they might just sew in new zipper
 

KJ
Posted on Monday, November 04, 2002 - 07:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

gp, you bugger, good damned guess. Yup, I have a long Barbour, David has the short version. No liners. They aren't warm without, but I wear it for the rain, along with my Akubra hat. Bought it all wholesale when I was dealing in tack and supplies. U.S. retail prices are crazy, shop around if you want one, and yes, they are terrific coats, but stink until they get worn a bit.

Karen, not yupped, though I do drive an $80K Toyota Range Rover Discovery :)
 

Rob Davison (Pokerob)
Posted on Monday, November 04, 2002 - 07:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

it's the classic winstoper mnt hardwear tech jacket,,, i was hoping they'd just give me a new one. i've had folks from merrell and gregory send me free stuff in exchange for the old used stuff,,, it has made me a life long customer to those brands... thought you might of had a similar experience, thus your rave.

www.epinions.com/images/ext/otdr/405/otdrApparelInsulationMountain_Hardware_Windstopper_Tech_Jacket-resized180.jpg
 

Phillip Perkinson (R0ver4x4)
Posted on Monday, November 04, 2002 - 08:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

yeah I have that one. Call thier warranty department and get a RA number and send it to them. I had to pay to get my Windstopper because they were gonna replace my chill factor with another chill factor but I wanted wind stopper so I had the pay the difference. They recently sent me the ethereal FTX parka because the one I had before it the gore-tex was daliminating or something?? they may send you a new coat or just replace your zipper, I had Vasque send me some boots but they were shit they were replacing my Made in Italy Sundowners with the new Made in Chinas. you win some you lose some. the mountain hardwear would be worth a try they are pretty cool about product support etc.
 

Rob Davison (Pokerob)
Posted on Monday, November 04, 2002 - 08:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

yeah, the jacket is beat anyway, some years ago a jaggoff took a cigarette lighter to the back and singed it in a few places, must have been in a bar. hard to notice but still... it was my favorite jacket. i like the idea of upgrading though, i am sick of the red color. :)

gregorgy story goes likwe this, rock lobster pack that i bough USED, had a frame sheet in the back, it was all warped and tired. i sent it back and they couldn't fix. they said they could give me new one in a few months for discounted price, i said cool.i then asked if they had a loaner one i could use in the mean time.. :)

well they sent the "alpinista", and i fell in love with the bag,, plain jane no frills pack but tuff as nails.

eventually when they sent the other one i asked them what they were going to do with the loaner they said one of the people working there would probably adopt it, i aasked if i could buy it since i liked it so much and the dude told me to keep it..

end of story two back packs, one brand new, one "demo" pack lightly used for $60 and my old bag :)

i ended up gving my buddy the new rock lobster and permenently adopting the alpinista... still using it today.

now i am a hard core gregory advocate!

rd
 

Phillip Perkinson (R0ver4x4)
Posted on Monday, November 04, 2002 - 09:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

yeah they make some quality products. yeah I have the red windstopper. I like it.
 

Carter Simcoe (Carter)
Posted on Monday, November 04, 2002 - 09:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Really, thats pretty sweet Muskyman. So is all of your musky fishing done on the fly?? We have tiger muskies in one river here in Arkansas but there aren't many of them, I would love to go after one on a fly-rod but until I make the time stripers will have to continue satisfying those big-fish-itches that arise from time to time.
 

muskyman
Posted on Monday, November 04, 2002 - 10:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

carter,

no I also spend alot of time row-trolling. its a old world way of fishing where you troll baits by rowing. it is a very effective way to catch the biggest fish in the lake because its so stealthy.

as far as tiger musky, the stocking programs of tigers have been a big failure in most southern states so I dont know if it would be worth your time to pursue them down there.

if you really want to catch musky on the fly a early season trip to northern wisconsin or a summer trip to northwest ontario would be a better way to get some action. A friend of mine has a lodge on eagle lake ontario and he has some fly in/4x4 trip lakes that the action is just outa this world.

I have caught many different species on the fly and musky are something special they dont bug out like bonefish they just stay and bulldog till they are beat or beat you

thom
 

Carter Simcoe (Carter)
Posted on Monday, November 04, 2002 - 10:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

yeah, they definitely haven't taken very well but I would still love to go out after some big smallmouths with hopes of possibly getting into a tiger as well. I would definitely love to travel up where they are more plentiful but at this point if I am ever further north with a fly-rod the target species is going to be trout on dry-flies, great trout fishing here in Arkansas (world record brown came from my home waters) but not many opportunities for dry fly fishing. I'm sure you know how it is, more places you want to fish than time/money to go fish them.
 

muskyman
Posted on Monday, November 04, 2002 - 10:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

well I wont mess with your trout fishing, everybody I have turned onto flyrod musky get hooked and forget about trout all togather.

yea you guys have monster browns down there some of the browns down by you look like they eat lard for a diet.
 

Carter Simcoe (Carter)
Posted on Monday, November 04, 2002 - 11:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Yeah, thats another problem: I'm sure I would get addicted and start blowing money on 10 weight set-ups (thats the last thing I need right now too). You've definitely heard some correct info on our browns. They are spawning right now and I have seen some monsters, the "bait-bubbas" tend to get most of the big ones as any 15 lb+ fish is gonna be way more than a hand full on your typical 5 wt set up. One day I am gonna float down with nothing but an 8 weight though and try to catch big one. I grew up bass fishing in Louisiana so I am really digging these trout now that I have them.
 

muskyman
Posted on Monday, November 04, 2002 - 11:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

"bait-bubba".lol..hell by us they just snag the big steelies as they stack up like poker chips

its fun when you can come in and take one in and amongst them when they are getting nill
 

Mike Rupp (Mike_Rupp)
Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2002 - 08:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Row trolling is a great way to fish for any kind of fish. When I used to fish in Northern Wisconsin, motor trolling was not allowed so after failing miserably by trying to cast, we tried trolling using one of those two seater paddle boats. We were basically just kidding around. To our surprise, we did quite well. In no time, we were catching Musky and bass all the time in a lake where we never had any success to speak of.
 

muskyman
Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2002 - 10:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

mike I agree with you, I have been row trolling for a long time and have caught hundreds of musky and dozens of huge walleye while row trolling.I build row trollers that are recreations of the old guide boats from years gone by. except I use cormat,epoxy,carbon fiber and other high tech materials. I fish mostly in onieda and vilas countys and concentrate on deep clear water lakes that have high protein forage fish such as ciscoes and trout.the big predator fish rarely go shallow, they just hangout in the deep stuff following schools of bait fish.
 

Mike Rupp (Mike_Rupp)
Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2002 - 11:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Musky, ever been to Mann lake? Haven't been there in 10 years. It used to be a good fishing lake up there.
 

muskyman
Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2002 - 11:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

mann lake at 261 acres and maximum depth of 18 feet is not really my kind of lake for row trolling, but I do drive by it alot and have heard that it is comming back . it had a winter kill in 1994 that wiped it out. that year we had 4 to 5 feet of ice and mann only has a average depth of about 4 feet. so all the fish got pushed out through the creek or died from lack of O2.
 

Carter Simcoe (Carter)
Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2002 - 11:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Thats the one good thing about Arkansas, no freeze overs. Well that and the big ass brown trout.
 

muskyman
Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2002 - 11:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

carter, ya better not come to wis. you may never go home. last year a brown caught in the mouth of one of the tributaries running into lake migh missed the world record by 3oz. we also have one of the worlds best runs of stealhead anywhere in the world in the root river(watch for snagers while fishing)the musky population is huge and there are over 2000lakes in vilas county alone. in the last 4 years the state DNR has removed over 3500 low rise dams reestablishing flow in hundreds of rivers that have been damned for more then 100years.
 

Carter Simcoe (Carter)
Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2002 - 11:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Yeah, I remember hearing about that trout. the Wisconsin/Minnesota area is definitely on the list of places I would like to live after school is over along with montana/wyoming/idaho and the florida coast. I just gotta decide what I want to fish for now.
 

muskyman
Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2002 - 05:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

aint if funny millions of people fight there way threw life hoping to be famous and a fish gets well known because its fat

thats easy live where you can make enough cash to fish where you want
 

Sus (Susannah)
Posted on Friday, November 15, 2002 - 06:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Barbour coats are wonderful for riding/schooling in the pouring rain. They are traditional British country gear and I agree with Karen that they do smell funny until they get broken in...but they last forever. You have to love them like Land Rovers...different, classic, British.

However, Mtn. Hardwear is my current favorite. I've got the Mithril XCR and the Windstopper Tech. Perks of working at an outdoor store. To the person that wanted to fix the zipper...call them up. They are a great company to work with and they just might give you another coat. Also, tell them you've been praising their company on the WWW!
 

millroy
Posted on Friday, November 15, 2002 - 07:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

youguys,
I am siked to hear that row trolling could produce some nice fish. I live on a lake in WA that has 54 mi of shoreline. My only boats are a paddle and a rowboat and I usually just fish spinners and worms off the dock. Caught a couple Kokanee and 20"+ Rainbows but most are about 8-10 inchers.
When I patrol some other areas I just get discouraged loosing tackle and all, but this sounds promising.
Guys fish for bass alot there too but I have only seen mini largemouths. Wedding ring seems to be popular for trolling.
Any "must haves" for this row trolling thing.
Lures, etc.?
Have fun.
 

muskyman
Posted on Friday, November 15, 2002 - 11:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

millroy

if you really want to go row trolling in style you need one of these

1,13row

or one of these

2,17row

these are rowtrollers built just to troll baits with ease, the small one is a one man boat while the large one is a 3 person model

i just started building the 3 man in carbon fiber kevlar composite. it should weigh 110 lbs as aposed to 240 as you see the big one here
 

thom mathie (Muskyman)
Posted on Friday, November 15, 2002 - 11:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

millroy

if you really want to go row trolling in style you need one of these

13row

or one of these

17row

these are rowtrollers built just to troll baits with ease, the small one is a one man boat while the large one is a 3 person model

i just started building the 3 man in carbon fiber kevlar composite. it should weigh 110 lbs as aposed to 240 as you see the big one here
 

Chris Dillard IM lvmyrvr (Cdillard)
Posted on Saturday, November 16, 2002 - 01:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I have to second Susannah on this one. I have had my Beaufort(*sp?) for about 10 years and it is still great for wet hunting mornings or even just a foul fall hack. These coats do not wear out and they are distinctly british! (stinky smell and all) ;-)

Cheers,
Chris
 

milroy
Posted on Monday, November 18, 2002 - 11:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Muskyman,,,
Can a musky pull you around in one of those? Are pike and musky found in Washington state and do they eat anything specific or just everything in the lake? I really want to catch one. Seems more like shark fishing than trout fishing. Anyhow, recommend any books or zines? Thanks, Nice boats, looks like fun.
 

muskyman
Posted on Monday, November 18, 2002 - 12:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Milroy

I ahve had musky stop my boat and pull me around, its part of the thrill.

pike live in almost all the waters in the US. from florida to brackish water in north alaska

musky are only located in the musky belt that starts in nw ontario and goes all the way to WV streams. they have now been stocked botha s sterile Hybrids and true musky all over the us.

muskyhunter.com is a great palce to start learning about them

but row trolling will catch just about any fish all you need to do is adapt your presentaion to the specific fish species you are after

good luck

thom

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