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Barry
| | Posted on Saturday, November 09, 2002 - 10:39 am: | 
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A previous thread on this topic lead me to search for an answer from a greater authority. The following comes from the United Four Wheel Drive Associations(www.ufwda.org), now celebrating their 25th Anniversary:
Barry, in general the vehicle traveling up hill has the right of way because if stopped it is more likely to have trouble re-starting. Overall whoever has the most room and the safest place to pull over should stop. Always consider the situation. There are many variables. I hope this helped.
Chris Allen Tefke
UFWDA/Safety Awareness Program Coordinator |
Kyle
| | Posted on Saturday, November 09, 2002 - 04:31 pm: |
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Well taht doesnt make a whole lotta sense now does it ???? Now we have the guy that was coming down hill trying to go back uphill in reverse. The thing that this guy just say would be more difficult compounded by haviung to do it in reverse. I say gravity has the right of way....
Kyle |
Carter Simcoe (Carter)
| | Posted on Saturday, November 09, 2002 - 06:42 pm: |
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Way to beat a dead horse. Like I said in the last thread, if you ever see me on a trail don't expect me to be backing up any hills for you, I might pull aside if there is a place to do so that doesn't endanger me or involve backing up but other than that you can forget it. I could give a shit what the UFWDATRFTHY or what ever says, are they going to buy us both new trucks after mine rolls down on top or yours??? |
Milan (Milan)
| | Posted on Saturday, November 09, 2002 - 06:52 pm: |
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Like I said, it makes sense on a road or a trail where you can actually pull over and stop and let the uphill vehicle pass. I emailed Chris about this to see what he actually thought about this when it comes to a single lane, steep trail.
I think his message still applies to a fairly mild trail or road and even he said "in general" and "whoever has the most room and the safest place to pull over". I.e. It depends. |
Pugsly (Pugsly)
| | Posted on Sunday, November 10, 2002 - 12:11 pm: |
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Just to beat that dead horse again, if you are going down a hill and meet someone coming up a hill, you are legally obligated (at least in California, don't know about other states) to give way to them if there is only room for one vehicle.
Of course, courtesy and common sense should always prevail.
This is just one of many websites that address the subject.
http://www.suvone.com/suv389.htm
"A common rule of the road when driving on the highway (and a law in many states) indicates that when two vehicles meet on a steep road where neither can pass, the vehicle facing downhill must back up until the vehicle going uphill can pass. This is because the driver going downhill has the greater amount of control when backing up. If you try to back up going down a steep hill, you can lose control and roll down the hill.
The same technique should be used off the road. The 4 wheel drive sport utility vehicle coming down the hill should back up until the vehicle coming up the hill can pass (see top photograph). If you are driving on approved four wheel drive roads or better dirt roads, you will seldom encounter roads so steep that the vehicle coming down hill cannot back up.
To avoid meeting an oncoming vehicle on a very steep stretch of 4wd road you can have one of your passengers go to the other end of that stretch of road to assure no one starts up (or down, depending on which way you are going) while you traverse that section." |
Rich Lee
| | Posted on Sunday, November 10, 2002 - 01:14 pm: |
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A simple suggestion.
If it is so steep as to be difficult for either person to reverse, try this.
1. Stop and wave the other vehicle to stop.
2. Get out of the trucks and both of you survey the situation.
3. Decide who would have the easier go of things and agree to spot that person through.
4. If it is REALLY bad, break out the winch and either "belay" the lower vehicle down with the upper hehicle properly secured, or use a pulley block from a secure uphill anchor and "belay" the upper vehicle back up. I have seen this latter manuver improvised with 2 winchless trucks, using tow straps, tree straps and shackles substituting for pulleys. The lower truck then backs down the hill and pulls the upper truck back up to a secure place (it can also work to get 2 trucks uphill, but is a slow, tedious process). Just be damn sure the strap is running over the eye of the pulley and not the threaded pin.
5. If all else fails, you can always threaten each other, with whoever has more manpower or firepower prevailing, but this seldom works as expected and can ruin the enjoyment for everyone. |
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