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Axel Haakonsen (Axel)
| | Posted on Thursday, November 14, 2002 - 01:06 pm: | 
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There have been a few favorite this and favorite that threads lately, so why not a favorite DiscoWeb video thread? Of course this is a blatant attempt of promoting the video's on my part...  But seriously, which one do you like best and why? Also tell us which one you don't like, so that Ho can ban your ip.... (No, he wouldn't do that. Kyle might, but not Ho. ) |
Andy Nix (Andy)
| | Posted on Thursday, November 14, 2002 - 01:32 pm: |
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I like mine the most. The label came off and stuck up my dvd player. The Back East video was OK......would've been better if I was in it |
Eric N (Grnrvr)
| | Posted on Thursday, November 14, 2002 - 01:36 pm: |
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I like all the video's (that I have) except the Back East Video becuase I'm in it. Really though, they are all pretty good even though I haven't seen the Hole in the Rock one yet. Maybe I'll buy that one tonight. |
Paul D. Morgan (V22guy)
| | Posted on Thursday, November 14, 2002 - 01:44 pm: |
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#1 Back East (fun to watch)
#2 Moab (technical)
#3 Hole in the Rock (kinda tame)
Each Video is cool in it's own way. It would be great to include more dialogue or animated commentary from the participants; i.e.; the real shit that people talk about in the middle of nowhere!
Paul
Movie critic with multiple IP's |
Ho Chung (Ho)
| | Posted on Thursday, November 14, 2002 - 02:35 pm: |
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you see axel, you should release the "uncut" version. |
Robbie (Robbie)
| | Posted on Thursday, November 14, 2002 - 03:13 pm: |
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gotta agree with Paul on the order. but from the preview, i really think Rubicon will be the next #1.
"uncut" version huh? is that the one where a secret camera goes in and catches Kyle washing his long, flowing locks? thank you, but i will pass |
Paul D. Morgan (V22guy)
| | Posted on Thursday, November 14, 2002 - 04:17 pm: |
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I wanted to know what was really going down with "Earl the Truck Driver" and whose shit was he haulin! |
Greg P. (Gparrish)
| | Posted on Thursday, November 14, 2002 - 05:06 pm: |
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I have to say, don't take the video's home with you when you go to visit the parents and expect them to get it. What a mistake, as I'm trying to explain that this is what I want to go do with my truck. They look at me like I'm crazy.
I must say, back east was good.
The other one I have, Moab I think, just flat out put my ass to sleep. Sorry guys, but I didn't really get into that one.
I haven't seen the newest one yet. |
Axel Haakonsen (Axel)
| | Posted on Thursday, November 14, 2002 - 08:57 pm: |
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Earl is a bit of a mystery to me, too. He has a habit of showing up when you least expect it, then he hangs around for a while and disappears again. He drove his Kenworth, which reportedly have 6 Detroits in it, all the way in to where we were camping the first night on the Hole trail. The next morning he was gone again. Unfortunately it was too dark to get any video of his truck. Maybe next time.....
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Paul D. Morgan (V22guy)
| | Posted on Thursday, November 14, 2002 - 09:33 pm: |
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Oh Man,
LMAO!! "I'll get your shit there...Guaranteed!"
See Axel, that's what I am talking about.
Paul
'00 Pig |
Axel Haakonsen (Axel)
| | Posted on Friday, November 15, 2002 - 11:50 am: |
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That's it? Nobody else have any comments? |
muskyman
| | Posted on Friday, November 15, 2002 - 11:51 am: |
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"The other one I have, Moab I think, just flat out put my ass to sleep. Sorry guys, but I didn't really get into that one."
i dont see how this is a bad thing, last night I threw in moab and ten min later my 5year old daughter was zonked out on the couch
it puts her to sleep everytime |
Ronnie McKinney (Ronnie)
| | Posted on Friday, November 15, 2002 - 12:08 pm: |
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I enjoyed Back East the most because it has more of the type terrain I am used to here in the southestern part of the US. I did get my copy of Hole in the Rock just yesterday and I must say I did enjoy it, just not as much as Back East. I definitely like the dvd format better, although not enough to buy Back East again.
Some of the background shots you mixed in with the Hole in the Rock footage was breathtaking. I would like to go wheeling out in some of those places one day but just don't see being able to take a couple of weeks off at a time like you and Kyle do every couple of years. I do envy your dedication though... |
Greg P. (Gparrish)
| | Posted on Friday, November 15, 2002 - 12:20 pm: |
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"i dont see how this is a bad thing, last night I threw in moab and ten min later my 5year old daughter was zonked out on the couch
it puts her to sleep everytime "
LOL.............. I see your point Muskyman..... I guess it has it's uses. Maybe I was just tired when I watched it. It is a very technical video, but it just didn't have the fun tempo and beat of the Back East video. That video kept me interested, and I enjoy watching it again. On another note, I ordered a CT video from 1988 and I was somewhat disappointed with it too. It was like they edited out all the good stuff and made a promo tape for the tree huggers. |
muskyman
| | Posted on Friday, November 15, 2002 - 12:33 pm: |
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i saw a clip of borneo I think? where they cut down some trees and strapped them togather to form a bridge...great idea and borneo most likely can afford the trees but if you did that in say yellowstone you'd be on the national news |
Rob Davison (Pokerob)
| | Posted on Friday, November 15, 2002 - 12:36 pm: |
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i kind of didn't like back east because it was what i've been doing for years... same terrain, etc.
ax, my fav parts on HITR video where the in the cab shots. specifically going up the shoot. it was great. i guess a more cinematic aproach is what i'd like, but that is very unpracticle unless you have someone who is devoted to filming rather than caring if they get to drive offroad. i'll volenteer BTW
rob |
Glenn Guinto (Glenn)
| | Posted on Friday, November 15, 2002 - 12:36 pm: |
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Well, it's been over a year now since my 3.5 year-old son developed his addiction to off-roading videos.... I was kinda hoping he'd snap out of it by now but the addiction is still pretty strong.... Specially after seeing the Back East video since he can actually see Daddy's truck spinning the heck out of those Futuras... plus he got his 2 seconds of fame in there too...
Do you guys now of a cure to this? Rehab perhaps?
-glenn |
Axel Haakonsen (Axel)
| | Posted on Friday, November 15, 2002 - 12:42 pm: |
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Quote:It is a very technical video, but it just didn't have the fun tempo and beat of the Back East video.
That is a fair assessement, and I kinda agree with that. Moab was the first one we did, and I think the production aspect has gotten better with the later videos. This is the main reason why Moab is not out on DVD yet. Before it goes on DVD, it will have to be reworked a bit. |
Kai Dussling (Kai)
| | Posted on Friday, November 15, 2002 - 01:35 pm: |
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My favorite video is the one where the two blonde chicks are in the bathtub together and the really good looking one lays back and starts to..........
Whooooops, wrong website!
Actually, I only have the Moab video and felt it wasn't bad. Definately would like to hear a little more commentary.
Kai |
Axel Haakonsen (Axel)
| | Posted on Friday, November 15, 2002 - 02:19 pm: |
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The DVD version will get a new soundtrack. |
muskyman
| | Posted on Friday, November 15, 2002 - 02:42 pm: |
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axel,
supertramp "take the long way home" plays over parts of your Moab video like "dark side of the moon" over "the wizard of oz".
i think the first one is really cool, its intresting if you watch several trucks become more proficient at the rocks as the video goes on.
I'd tell ya what I think of the others but I havent got off my ass and bought them yet...with all your Bandwidth I take up I guess that makes me a chump? |
Kyle
| | Posted on Friday, November 15, 2002 - 02:44 pm: |
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Chump....
Kyle |
Greg P. (Gparrish)
| | Posted on Friday, November 15, 2002 - 02:55 pm: |
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Kyle,
I still have not gotten off my ass and mounted those light brackets. I need to get busy and at least mount the rear one since the light is up there. I haven't forgotten about you and your request for photo's though.
Greg |
RVR OVR (Tom)
| | Posted on Friday, November 15, 2002 - 04:37 pm: |
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OK, I will give in my 2 cents.
First off, I think the production quality of the videos are first rate. No shaky camera walks, smooth transitions, great picture quality.
However, I do find some parts of the videos to be a bit boring. I've got Moab and Back East. Here's what I don't care to see:
-Stock trucks climbing stock truck style hills. I think this was mainly in the Back-East video at one Rover event. I forget which.
-People hanging out around campfires.
-Some of those close-close up shots of a tire driving over something, or just the top half of a vehicle as the wheels move over the obstacle that we can't see.
-Basically anything that could be deemed as a private joke or something better suited to a home video vs. one for mass sale. It ain't fun if you don't get it or don't know the folks you are watching.
However, all that being said, I am sure that these are some very things that other folks enjoy, as some have commented up above. They are just not my bag.
Now more good stuff...
- I do like how you can hear the exhaust of the vehicles and the tires screech on the rocks or slip through the mud.
- I like the scenery shots
- Of course, I like watching different rovers hit the same obstacle differently. It would be kind of cool (but maybe to lame for others) to list the suspension and drivetrain mods on the trucks. Probably would be a cool DVD feature.
Anyway, one video that I really enjoyed is the 4x4 Slamdown video at http://www.cinemawerx.com/4x4slamdown/index.php. If you remove the annoying music and have a couple less shots of Potato Salad Hill, it is a great watch all the way through that is fun to watch more than once.
Tom |
Kyle
| | Posted on Friday, November 15, 2002 - 05:06 pm: |
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Tom , since the Video is mainly of us , its going to depict what our driving style is. Its not us out shooting video of people wide open beating the piss out of their trucks two miles from home and then doing the victory strut , high fiving and shit.
Its our trucks a few thousand miles from home on the same trails doing the same thing without all the drama. Now think about that for a moment. Are you saying that you would rather see us do the same things we are doing already but just do it on the floor ? Wide open and careless ?
I actually take it as quite the compliment that people have watched the Moab tape and said that it was boring. That means we ran some of the toughest trails in the US and made them look easy.... I dig that alot.....
Kyle |
Greg P. (Gparrish)
| | Posted on Friday, November 15, 2002 - 05:13 pm: |
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"That means we ran some of the toughest trails in the US and made them look easy.... I dig that alot....."
Well, I was at home visiting the folks when I watched Moab, so it may have been the big turkey dinner that put me to sleep. Not completely sure........... |
Kim S (Roverine)
| | Posted on Friday, November 15, 2002 - 05:37 pm: |
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uh, okay confession here: I received the Hole in the Rock DVD almost 2 weeks ago, and I haven't seen it yet!!! (no wonder I've been feeling a little cranky). I was gone for awhile, and, (LOL, here is the sorriest part)  I tried to watch it the other night but couldn't get the $%##! DVD player to work! So, Greg gets in tonight, guess I'll have him take a look see at it and see if HE can get it to work (it's probably not plugged in, uh oh I better check  )
Will post back after viewing 3rd episode this weekend
Kim
P.S. I like the Moab video!! (hehehe, West is Best!) |
John Lee
| | Posted on Friday, November 15, 2002 - 06:46 pm: |
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Ax,
Please call the Rubicon video "Rubicon Smackdown" or "Rubicon Slamdown" or "Rumble In The Rubicon" or "Phi Slamma Jamma" or "XTreme Trek" or "High Intensity Discharge" or "When Good Rovers Go Bad" or "Too Hot For Discoweb" or "High Speed, Low Drag" or some other similar name. It'll help sell the videos. |
Rob Davison (Pokerob)
| | Posted on Friday, November 15, 2002 - 06:55 pm: |
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i like, "bitchslap the rubicon", that is what you guys did, no?
rob |
Kyle
| | Posted on Friday, November 15, 2002 - 06:55 pm: |
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Yeah , I think it was the spinning "X". That gets em every time....lol
Kyle |
Andy Nix (Andy)
| | Posted on Friday, November 15, 2002 - 07:02 pm: |
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......he said discharge
hu hu hhuhuh uhuh uh |
Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d)
| | Posted on Friday, November 15, 2002 - 07:11 pm: |
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I liked all the videos about the same. The only criticisms are:
1) For the Moab video, showing too many attempts at the same obstacle, sometimes by 5 or 6 different discos. Just a little tedious (well, when the wife's watching, anyway).
2) Not enough commentary in all 3 videos. As strange as this sounds, Axel, I do like listening to you babbling on
3) More music please - perhaps faded low while you're speaking, and cutting off at times when the discos are breaking on something. Generally the vehicle sounds are very faint and its a bit too quiet.
Sorry I'm babbling on myself now. I liked them in the following order on increasing preference: Moab, Back East, HITR.
Dean |
Blue (Bluegill)
| | Posted on Friday, November 15, 2002 - 07:15 pm: |
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shit, LOL there Mr. Lee.......I said "God damn".... |
Axel Haakonsen (Axel)
| | Posted on Friday, November 15, 2002 - 07:22 pm: |
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John, I can't use X for Rubicon, it will only be video number IV. |
Blue (Bluegill)
| | Posted on Friday, November 15, 2002 - 07:27 pm: |
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Xtreme Rub-down |
John Lee
| | Posted on Friday, November 15, 2002 - 07:33 pm: |
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"bitchslap the rubicon", that is what you guys did, no?
Yeah, Ike Turner had nothing on us. |
Axel Haakonsen (Axel)
| | Posted on Friday, November 15, 2002 - 08:53 pm: |
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Quote:supertramp "take the long way home" plays over parts of your Moab video like "dark side of the moon" over "the wizard of oz
That would be cool, of course. Unfortunately, there is one big problem with using Supertramp or any other copyrighted music: ROYALTES.... All the music used in the DiscoWeb videos and previews are actually created by me, for better or for worse. That way we avoid any copyright issues. But thats' also another reason why it takes a while to finish a video, I have to score the damn thing, too.... |
RVR OVR (Tom)
| | Posted on Friday, November 15, 2002 - 09:59 pm: |
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You guys took me wrong, or just took the opinion too far away from what it really is. The whole "xxxtreeemmmeeee" attitude of the 4x4 slamdown mainly the music I didn't much care for, see my posts from a couple weeks ago on the topic (../17/9738.html"#333333"> |
Kyle
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I aint attacking you man. The trailer for that vid is lookking pretty much like that though..lol
You also have to keep in mind that there are alot of stockers out tehre that wont go beyond that. They like the Pouserfest and the dirt road safari and the tapes have to be for them as well. I cant stand those events myself (Hence me not being there) but there are many that do. I am interested to see what you think of the ones that are being done now. I think you will like them..
Kyle |
Gabriel Guay (Gearhead)
| | Posted on Friday, November 15, 2002 - 10:28 pm: |
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Moab was a nice technical video showing what mature controlled wheeling looks like. I'm sure there were a busted diff or two on the trip but the point is, if someone never seen any offroading before, this is the tape you show them to overcome the red neck mud pit visions they have of off roading.
Back East wasn't bad, but included more foot to the floor than I care for and is not the type of wheeling I like to do so I didn't find those segments enjoyable.
Overall, great production, would like to hear the trucks more and the comments on the trail more.
That's my $.02
Waiting on my HITR video.
Gabe |
RVR OVR (Tom)
| | Posted on Friday, November 15, 2002 - 10:51 pm: |
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Kyle,
Just slapped down my $25 bones for the Hole in the Rock video. I hope I like it, too.
Tom |
Axel Haakonsen (Axel)
| | Posted on Saturday, November 16, 2002 - 08:27 am: |
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Quote:Overall, I like the Discoweb videos and enjoyed watching them. Axel asked for an honest opinion and I gave mine in what I feel was a constructive and non-offensive way. Why attack me for it?
I'm not. I asked for feedback, and you gave your opinion. Some of the things you said you didn't care for is the same thing other people have said they liked, so it seems that we have a pretty good balance, but of course there is always room for improvements.
One comment on the campfire shots; I use them whenever a trip goes over multiple days to show that it is a multiple day segment.
I haven't seen the Slamdown video yet, but I have ordered a copy and will post my impression of it later. |
RVR OVR (Tom)
| | Posted on Saturday, November 16, 2002 - 09:52 am: |
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Axel,
I don't think you were attacking me. Mainly John Lee taking things to the exxxtreeeeeemmmmeeeee.
Anyway, it makes sense about the campfire shots after you explain it. I am certainly not an artist to understand such things!!!
Tom |
Axel Haakonsen (Axel)
| | Posted on Saturday, November 16, 2002 - 04:29 pm: |
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To counter the slamdown video preview, here is a taste of the upcoming DiscoWeb Rubicon video:
Rubicon Preview, Windows Media, 4.5 Mb
A full screen version is included on the HITR video, it is in the preview section of the DVD, and immediately following the end credits on the VHS version. |
muskyman
| | Posted on Saturday, November 16, 2002 - 05:08 pm: |
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very cool.....how come no computer generated flames? |
Axel Haakonsen (Axel)
| | Posted on Saturday, November 16, 2002 - 06:42 pm: |
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Don't need it, I figure the video speaks for itself....
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RVR OVR (Tom)
| | Posted on Saturday, November 16, 2002 - 08:43 pm: |
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OK, I am too much into the exxxtreeemmmeee. Or at least I got a huge kick out of the Discos hauling ass over the desert or salt flats or whatever that was. Very cool. Please, please, please set that to the Benny Hill theme song for me.
Tom |
Axel Haakonsen (Axel)
| | Posted on Saturday, November 16, 2002 - 09:47 pm: |
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That was Black Rock desert in Nevada, close to where they hold "The Burning Man" festival each year, actually. That was the rally point for the group before we headed to California and Rubicon. |
Clif Ashley (Cta586)
| | Posted on Saturday, November 16, 2002 - 11:11 pm: |
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Im not familiar w/ the burning man festival? |
chu
| | Posted on Saturday, November 16, 2002 - 11:47 pm: |
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Well, just finished watching Hoe in the Rock. So naturally, looking forward to the next one.
Extreme or not, I do enjoy seeing Rovers in action. Sure as heck beats watching mine sit in the garage. All nice and shiny.
I'd still like to get a hold of that 'uncut' edition Tired of you guys making everything look so damn easy!
KEEP EM COMIN'
chu |
Axel Haakonsen (Axel)
| | Posted on Saturday, November 16, 2002 - 11:57 pm: |
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Quote:Im not familiar w/ the burning man festival?
It's kinda like Woodstock on acid from what I understand. We didn't go to the festival, it was over a week before we got there, but we did literally run into the remnants of the burning man when we came into the desert at night. It was a bit freaky, actually. There were a few stragglers left, too. Just like if you go to Woodstock there are still people there who are waiting for the intermission to end so the concert can resume.
Burning Man |
Clif Ashley (Cta586)
| | Posted on Sunday, November 17, 2002 - 12:01 am: |
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Whoa... that is some crazy shiat.
Way over my head, lol. |
RVR OVR (Tom)
| | Posted on Sunday, November 17, 2002 - 01:26 am: |
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Woodstock on Acid? That's simply 2 hits instead of one. LOL.
Tom |
muskyman
| | Posted on Sunday, November 17, 2002 - 10:03 am: |
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funny thing is that these people look straight, no acid just plain nuts
hence:
"Normally art cars are on the fringe and considered alternative and kooky. At Burning Man, however, art cars suddenly become cool, and more, they are integrated into the community and celebrated as part of the event's identity. The art car artist is thus made to feel more like a hero than a freak, a part of the inside instead of on the outside."
so I guess this is saying the my neihbor that drives the buick around with the model of the twin towers falling down and american flags isnt really nuts he just hasent found his niche at burning man |
muskyman
| | Posted on Sunday, November 17, 2002 - 10:09 am: |
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funny thing is that these people look straight, no acid just plain nuts
hence:
"Normally art cars are on the fringe and considered alternative and kooky. At Burning Man, however, art cars suddenly become cool, and more, they are integrated into the community and celebrated as part of the event's identity. The art car artist is thus made to feel more like a hero than a freak, a part of the inside instead of on the outside."
so I guess this is saying the my neihbor that drives the buick around with the model of the twin towers falling down and american flags isnt really nuts he just hasent found his niche at burning man |
thom mathie (Muskyman)
| | Posted on Sunday, November 17, 2002 - 10:10 am: |
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funny thing is that these people look straight, no acid just plain nuts
hence:
"Normally art cars are on the fringe and considered alternative and kooky. At Burning Man, however, art cars suddenly become cool, and more, they are integrated into the community and celebrated as part of the event's identity. The art car artist is thus made to feel more like a hero than a freak, a part of the inside instead of on the outside."
so I guess this is saying the my neihbor that drives the buick around with the model of the twin towers falling down and american flags isnt really nuts he just hasent found his niche at burning man |
thom mathie (Muskyman)
| | Posted on Sunday, November 17, 2002 - 10:11 am: |
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funny thing is that these people look straight, no acid just plain nuts
hence:
"Normally art cars are on the fringe and considered alternative and kooky. At Burning Man, however, art cars suddenly become cool, and more, they are integrated into the community and celebrated as part of the event's identity. The art car artist is thus made to feel more like a hero than a freak, a part of the inside instead of on the outside."
so I guess this is saying the my neihbor that drives the buick around with the model of the twin towers falling down and american flags isnt really nuts he just hasent found his niche at burning man |
thom mathie (Muskyman)
| | Posted on Sunday, November 17, 2002 - 10:14 am: |
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funny thing is that these people look straight, no acid just plain nuts
hence:
"Normally art cars are on the fringe and considered alternative and kooky. At Burning Man, however, art cars suddenly become cool, and more, they are integrated into the community and celebrated as part of the event's identity. The art car artist is thus made to feel more like a hero than a freak, a part of the inside instead of on the outside."
so I guess this is saying the my neihbor that drives the buick around with the model of the twin towers falling down and american flags isnt really nuts he just hasent found his niche at burning man |
muskyman
| | Posted on Sunday, November 17, 2002 - 10:16 am: |
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man I hate blowing a post...let alone 5 times |
Kyle
| | Posted on Sunday, November 17, 2002 - 10:52 am: |
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"but we did literally run into the remnants of the burning man when we came into the desert at night"
But we dont wanna talk about that now do we Ax ? NO!! definately DONT wanna do that!!! Not THAT!!... hehe
That desert in the middle of the night is one of the funnest things I have ever done in my life...
Kyle |
\Mike... (Mpeters)
| | Posted on Sunday, November 17, 2002 - 12:43 pm: |
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> (--cut--) I got a huge kick out of the Discos
>hauling ass over the desert (--cut--) please set
>that to the Benny Hill theme song for me.
ok, now that's funny. |
Axel Haakonsen (Axel)
| | Posted on Monday, November 18, 2002 - 07:13 am: |
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Benny Hill?  Can't stand him..... The Monthy Python theme maybe, but not Benny Hill.... |
Greg Bright (Gregd2)
| | Posted on Monday, November 18, 2002 - 10:11 am: |
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Ax,
That preview looks great! When is it going to be available? I really like the part in the desert and where they're driving across the water. That's the kind of stuff I like to see, it's amazing how the terrain differs across our country! I also liked Ho gettin' winched out backwards Good Stuff! |
E Snyder
| | Posted on Monday, November 18, 2002 - 11:29 am: |
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Just watched the "Back East" video yesterday.
1.0 My fiance said that the background music sounded like porno music. (that's a good thing, and I'm just happy she knows what that sounds like...)
2.0 Axel (I think) said that Dictum's Ridge was the only rockcrawling spot in "Area 110" in VA. I will send you guys some video of Kephart's run next time I'm there. Pucker factor much higher than Dictum's. (There are a few other similar spots around, as well.)
3.0 Faster pace than Moab video helped keep the civilians (aka fiance) interested.
4.0 It was cool to see the production getting better with each video. Need to buy HITR now.
All in all, sweet video. Hope the sales are making a dent in the cost to run this website.
Not to take the lid off of Pandora's Box, but are you guys interested at all in video submissions from D-Webbers? Could make for a cool "DiscoWeb Across America" kind of video. If you could deal with all the editing... |
Axel Haakonsen (Axel)
| | Posted on Monday, November 18, 2002 - 10:34 pm: |
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Greg:
Rubicon will probably be ready some time early next year. It will most likely be a two video deal, part 1 will be Rubicon and part 2 will be Dusy Ershim. Originally we wanted to put it out by the Holidays, but there is too much footage to edit it properly by then, and I don't want to put out a rushed video.
Enoch:
Thanks for the feedback. Glad you liked the video, and yeah, video sales do help defray the cost of keeping the cost of running the site down. Since we are not big fans of pop up ads or usage fees, we depend on sticker and video sales to keep the site running. It's sort of like the PBS model... Thanks for your support.
Video submissions is something we have talked about in the past, but we never discussed it in too much detail. The question is would enough people be interested in something that to justify the cost and work involved?
Axel |
Rans (Rans)
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 19, 2002 - 07:19 am: |
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Axel,
Saw Back East and Hole in the Wall over the weekend! Wooo-hooo....loved em both. It's fun to see places I've been in the Back East video, and places I definatly want to go to in the Hole in the Wall video. Looking forward to Rubicon, Moab, & Dusy Ershim on DVD in the near future. No doubt I'll be anxious for the next one after that too.
Rans |
E Snyder
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 19, 2002 - 08:13 am: |
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Axel-
Hard to say. How many videos would you need to sell to make it worth while?
I would definitely buy one, and I think others would too, but I don't really know. I think it would be cool to see DiscoWeb people wheeling in the different areas they are from, or on trips they have been on. Definitely with you guys editing, though.
Maybe a long term project. Take submissions for a year or so and see what you get!
Enoch |
Rob Davison (Pokerob)
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 19, 2002 - 10:05 am: |
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"hole in the rock" , rans...
"hole in the wall" makes me think of a dubious gas station bathroom.
speaking of which, did anyone see "sweetest thing" with cristina applegate and cameron diaz? the directors cut was pretty interesting.
rd |
Axel Haakonsen (Axel)
| | Posted on Thursday, November 21, 2002 - 09:56 pm: |
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As I said earlier in this thread, I would post my impression of the Slamdown video once I have seen it. Well, it arrived today, and I just finished watching it. I think the best way to describe it is: Watch the preview on the Slamdown site. Imagine 40 minutes of the same thing, and there you have it.
Basically the entire video is short, un-narrated clips of an assortment of trucks spinning their way up two of the relatively famous obstacles on Hell's Revenge; Dump Bump and Potato Salad Hill. There are also a few shots of some Rovers on Poison Spider/Golden Spike thrown in for good measure, and a few assorted other clips, mainly of people picking the wrong line up The Wedge on Poison Spider. The entire thing is mixed up randomly, and set to an "Extreeeme" soundtrack (Read Metallica wannabees), in an attempt to make the video interresting. This video perpetuates the image of four wheeling that the Sierra club and their likeminded comrades are fond of spreading, namely the beer guzzling, pedal to the metal, no regard for the environment style of off roading. The shots of beer bottles flying out of the back of one truck, the guy breaking off a piece of a mesquite tree so a truck can get by, and the woman running across the rocks with a baby in one arm and a beer in the other will do wonders for our image, I'm sure.
Production wise this video is ok. The picture quality is good for the most part, mainly shot using high quality equipment, but with some grainy analog footage from a consumer camcorder here and there. There is no shaky footage, however. The background music I did not care for. I am not a fan of headbanger music to begin with, and it was obviously used to mask out the soundtrack from the source video.
I received the DVD version, in a nicely designed package. The authoring and encoding of the DVD leaves some things to be desired. I don't know which bitrate was used, but I did notice some blocks and artifacts here and there. That is to be expected on a DVD-R, however. What I would expect on the other hand, is that the DVD returns to the main menu when the program is over, instead of going into fade-to-black never-never land. A small detail for sure, but something that is not difficult to accomplish during authoring, especially on a DVD that has only one button (Play) on the main menu.
I am not giving this video a less than stellar review because it is a competitor to the DiscoWeb videos. There are room for both, and if I had thought it was well done, I would have said so.
To sum it up, if you want 40 minutes of wheelspin, 2/3 of it being on Potato Salad Hill and Dump Bump set to ear piercing music, buy this video. If on the other hand you want to see controlled, mature four wheeling and get a feel for what the trails are really like, buy Moab 2001 or Hole in The Rock. |
muskyman
| | Posted on Thursday, November 21, 2002 - 10:11 pm: |
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great review...i saw the clip/preview a while ago and thought wow nothing new there...saw the whole thing 2 weeks ago(friend got it as a gift) and I think your spot on.
trust me anyone that wants to see it just has to wait and watch the national news...the tree huggers will use parts of it down the road as a whats wrong with wheeling story. |
RVR OVR (Tom)
| | Posted on Thursday, November 21, 2002 - 10:15 pm: |
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Axel,
I somewhat agree and somewhat disagree. I think the video went out of it's way to make fun of people who seemed to be drinking beer or doing something stupid (the beer and baby pic caption, etc). I don't think it supports it. However, it still shows that is there, but I think this was debated a while back about some pictures on this site and other places.
I never intended this to be a this video vs. that, but it seems to have turned into it. I guess because right now, I possess four 4x4 videos if you don't count the ones that came with my Disco. 3 are Discoweb and then the other 4x4 slamdown.
I do appreciate the controlled wheeling, but I have a feeling that I would enjoy the Discoweb videos a lot more if it were me I was watching rather than somebody else. I don't know how else to explain it. I do like them, but they can be a bit slow at times. I wonder if you would like them as much if were the exact same thing but it wasn't you and your buddies on the trip and you weren't there reliving your good time on TV. I know my wedding video is about the same as everybody elses, but I'd watch that way before I'd watch another persons.
In my opinion, maybe a sort of hybrid of the two would be something I would rank as "ideal", however it seems to me that most folks like the videos as is, so you have hit the mark better than I would have if I set out to make some videos and sell them.
Tom |
thom mathie (Muskyman)
| | Posted on Thursday, November 21, 2002 - 10:24 pm: |
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tom I'll video you ...i'll even burn it on a disc for ya...dude we need to go wheeling so I can see that flexy truck of your work.
e-mail me and lets set it up...maybe we could make it axels first dweb surfer submission?
thom |
RVR OVR (Tom)
| | Posted on Thursday, November 21, 2002 - 10:30 pm: |
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Hey Thom,
I have plenty of footage for you to burn if you really want to. However, India trees and mud hardly is as attractive as the areas in the Discoweb videos.
Anyway, we should be heading out to Attica (again...) very soon. I'll email you and let you know. There is talk of going the Saturday after Thanksgiving if you are interested.
Tom |
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