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Richard Ford (Rford)
| | Posted on Monday, November 25, 2002 - 08:33 am: | 
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Hi all. I saw a Discovery at a car show last week. It had the tent on the top which sucked me into the booth. Have been to the local Sacramento dealer and did the test drive and really liked it. The big deal for me is the mileage. Is 16 on the highway real. Problem for me is I drive a lot! I have a light foot on the gas typically and normally get over the highway mileage projections. What is your experience on the highway? I might go for an 2002, but there isn't much selection, so 2003 is more probable. Thank you from Dick in Davis, CA! |
John Cinquegrana (Johnc)
| | Posted on Monday, November 25, 2002 - 08:38 am: |
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If gas mileage is a concern than maybe the LR is not the right car for you.
Just my opinion. |
Kennith P. Whichard III (Kennith)
| | Posted on Monday, November 25, 2002 - 09:04 am: |
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I really haven't had much of a problem with gas mileage, here's the seceret for the Series II:
They tell you to pump it up with 91 octane, and with this you will get that 16mpg.
The workshop manual, however, says that the American version uses an engine with a higher compression ratio, and that it was designed to run on 95 octane.
Well, at a loss as to where I could find 95 octane, I used Sunoco 94. The results were a noticible increase in everything good (acceleration, gas milage, etc...), and a reduction in fuel costs. Yes, the milage is good enough now to offset the price of more expensive fuel.
In case you are wondering, I have a lead foot as well, and have no trouble passing other "faster" vehicles, even when they don't want to be passed.
Cheers,
And good luck,
Kennith |
Dana Giles (Dana_G)
| | Posted on Monday, November 25, 2002 - 09:52 am: |
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Dick,
I have to go with what John said. The 16mpg highway figure is realistic. A light foot may gain you an additional mile per, but not much more. Basically it's a 2 ton vehicle with full time 4wd and it's about as aerodynamic as a brick. If you want to play offroad, and don't mind the fuel bill, Land Rovers are the choice for you. If you plan to keep on the pavement and don't like shelling out lotsa bucks on gas, it's probably not what you're looking for.
FWIW,
Dana |
muskyman
| | Posted on Monday, November 25, 2002 - 10:21 am: |
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"and it's about as aerodynamic as a brick"
I dont want to start a monday mourning pissing contest but...disco's are actually pretty aerodynamic.
flat sides are good not bad, narrow also helps
the real down side is all the gears it pushes
the reason a ford f250 gets better MPG(even with a v10) is it pushes way less gears.
RFORD,
dont get to uptight about the MPG do a calculation of how much that 3 MPG difference is gonna cost you over say 75k and you will see its not that big a deal for the total package a Disco gives you. If you plan on venturing offroad and using the truck for camping and adventure you will very quickly forget about the MPG and think about how very very few other offerings from any other SUV maker can do anywhere near what a Disco can do. a disco is like a permission slip from the truck gods to go see some of the coolest places on earth.you can buy many other suvs thinking thats what you are getting but when it comes right down to it the others are mostly pretenders meant for street use without the flexible suspensionneeded for offroad. The disco is a true back country truck with a suspension made to be used offroad with a glitzed up body to blend in on the street. |
Glenn Guinto (Glenn)
| | Posted on Monday, November 25, 2002 - 10:59 am: |
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"Is 16 on the highway real?" - LOL
Maybe... but most of the times it's less...
-glenn
with the roof rack, lift, steel wheels and bigger tires on my 99D1, I get more like 11 city 13 highway -- that sucks... but as musky pointed out, in the end, it's worth it. |
Dana Giles (Dana_G)
| | Posted on Monday, November 25, 2002 - 11:24 am: |
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Muskyman,
Bricks happen to have flat sides too, and guess what, they're as aerodynamic as a brick. Massive frontal area, virtually flat grille and windscreen, vertical back...not good aerodynamics.
Aerodynamics is all about wake, and the Disco leaves a big one.
Like you said tho, for offroad there is no equal. |
Phillip Perkinson (R0ver4x4)
| | Posted on Monday, November 25, 2002 - 12:33 pm: |
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In reading some stuff on Defenders and wind tunnel testing I learned that a refrigerator had less drag. |
M. K. Watson (Lrover94)
| | Posted on Monday, November 25, 2002 - 12:42 pm: |
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aerodynamics, who cares if you want less drag by a JET if frontal area is a problem get a DUCATI. musky dude you said it all and i agree, its the best way to get there and back no matter how much fuel it takes. dude buy the rover get a cheap honda to drive back and forth to work and enjoy the weekend adventures in the best 4x4 made.
mike w |
Steve (Steve2)
| | Posted on Monday, November 25, 2002 - 01:20 pm: |
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just as a point of reference.
the jeep liberty got 16mpg
in the car and driver test of the liberty
vs. freelander.
the freelander got 19mpg overall.
my jeep cherokee used to get 15mpg
my lifted and bull bar'd disco gets
14mpg overall. i have foudn the snorkel
really helps on long highway hauls. |
Dana Giles (Dana_G)
| | Posted on Monday, November 25, 2002 - 01:33 pm: |
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Mike,
I merely mentioned aerodynamics as one of a long list of reasons that Discos get around 15mpg. Don't get me wrong I LOVE my Disco. The person who started the thread was concerned about gas mileage and I don't want him to make an uninformed decision. There really is no way to get vastly improved mpg out of a Rover. It is , IMHO, the best vehicle built to adventure through the back-country in.
That said, I would rather that Dick continue to love Land Rovers from afar, (because they might not be what he needs at the moment)than buy one and end up hating it for its gas milage. |
Rich Lee
| | Posted on Monday, November 25, 2002 - 02:30 pm: |
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Muskyman,
One of the most articulate arguements for the Disco I have ever read.....nice job.
RFord,
Do the math. Over 5 years and 75,000 miles, a "lightfoot" might average 15mpg on the Disco and at best 18mpg on some poser 4x4. If you are talking 7 passengers, then the difference is less.
You will buy 5000 gallons of gas to drive the Disco, and 4166 gallons for the poser. That's 834 gallons over 5 years, 167 gallons a year and even at $2 a gallon, that's less than $1 a day difference to own a real 4x4 and do amazing things in amazing places with (mostly) amazing people. Plus, you get the advice and support of Disco Web and your local Land Rover club. Something you will never find on www.poserweb.org.
Life is more than money and MPG,
live it up! |
KJ
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 26, 2002 - 12:07 am: |
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"Besides, the Chicks dig them!" Get a rooftop tent and you're golden!
Karen, just hadn't said that in a while, LOL!  |
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