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Author Message   Anonymous Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 09:28 am:    I just thought that I would post a little message to get things a little riled up. Is east coast wheeling tougher than west coast, or visa versa? I know this post will bring a few people out of their holes.   Eric N (Grnrvr) Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 09:52 am:    I haven't been wheeling on the left coast so I wouldn't know.. I think that we have better clay type mud though..   Eric N (Grnrvr) Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 09:53 am:    Just like an Anon.. Always trying to start trouble..   JB Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 10:08 am:    Tellico , North Carolina - East Coast Baby - the best 4x4ing by far and the trails are maintained by the gov't - this is actually a good thing... And you get to see every kind of truck you could imagine. Trails go from dirt road to damn near impossible without 42's and a winch and lots of luck and axles..mud, creeks, Smoky Mtns. elevation and a flyfishing river runs right through it.. JB   Axel Haakonsen (Axel) Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 10:17 am:    That is like comparing apples and oranges. The east coast has more trees, mud and loose rock. The (South) west is more desert and rock crawling. Asking which is tougher is like asking us to compare water skiing to downhill skiing. Depending on how you are set up, one will be harder than the other. A rock buggy would probably not do too well in deep mud, just like it would be pretty difficult to water ski behind a row boat.   M. K. Watson (Lrover94) Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 10:38 am:    triffling!   John Lee Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 12:25 pm:    The West is the best. It's not even close. The Hammers. Rubicon. Dusy Ershim. Farmington. Las Cruces. Truckhaven. The list goes on and on.   Rob Davison (Pokerob) Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 12:29 pm:    i dissagree.. east is better. far more little day trip avalible. there are trails everywhere and none of them have names.. you just turn off some country road and you are wheelin' no crowds or any of that jazz, at least in PA thats how it is. rd   Blue (Bluegill) Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 12:30 pm:    check out your population density maps - more desolate in the southwest - can't just jump out of the woods at any time for a fill-up and a microwave burrito at the stop-n-go rocks are everywhere, but more exposure of dry bedrock out west more mud in east The West is the Best...get here, and we'll do the rest...   John Lee Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 12:31 pm:    Rob, It's the same here. The West is definitely better. And don't think this is prejudice speaking. I'm somewhat of an East Coaster too. "You East Coast? I fah East Coast".   Rob Davison (Pokerob) Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 12:39 pm:    sure john, you spin a good yarn... but we all know this is the real stuff out here. our trucks get dirty,,, unlike you all getting your underbelly sand blasted shiny from a drive in the desert. okay blue, lot less people lot more land, but much of it isnt even got dirt on it... i mean who want to wheel on sand and rock when you can have mud and trees ;-) rd   Roverine Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 01:08 pm:    Well ... have to admit, I have thought of this: ... my little non permanent antenna set up I've got going right now (pic in gallery, I'm too retarded, and have been unable to post a darn pic on a thread here yet) would probably get yanked out by the cord with a tree branch or something. ... Not that we don't have trees here Kim   gp (Garrett) Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 01:23 pm:    mine (antenna) has been gone for about a year now. LR had their head up their ass on that one. well until '97. only 4wheeling i did out west was in a samuri outside palm springs. brought it back to the rental company after it stopped starting 50% of the time. i like having my 4 seasons while i am out in the 'woods'.   Eric N (Grnrvr) Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 01:29 pm:    Northwest would be nice.. South west though is just too damn hot for me.. Well unless I'm at the beach.   Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 01:32 pm:    Forget E/W coast, personally I would love to go wheeling through some of the south american jungles - you know where it rains 5 inches every day, and every day is like a CT ride without the dialog Perhaps one day in a few years I'll take out 6 months and do something.....   Blue (Bluegill) Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 01:39 pm:    Most of my wheeling has been in the east. Twenty years of wheeling in NY vs. only 6 years out here. I miss the trees and grass and water and dirt. But the relatively quiet rocks and gravel and sand and cactus are nice too. Hell, it's all good.   Kyle Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 01:42 pm:    Yes , its all good. Both areas provide different challenges. The west has more traction but more pit falls..... Kyle   John C. Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 01:45 pm:    Instead of comparing which is best, why not compare the number of trails on the West coast compared to the East coast. Let me see...New England Area....one, two, three, three, three, four...oh no, that one is closed... three, You get my drift.   Eric N (Grnrvr) Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 01:50 pm:    ya, i got some fake fur and can fix those west coast trails Hey, ranger, isn't that some of the rare Jackalope fur on that bush..   Roverine Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 01:58 pm:    Yes, sadly, it has been many years since I have seen a jackalope .... Kim   gp (Garrett) Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 02:13 pm:    hey we have mt. lions in my neck of the woods now. they are coming back. very slowly, but they are. nittany mountain is just down the road from my folks place and we have seen one in front of their house. (just one years ago) 15 yards in front of us. and no we were not all wasted!! game commission ain't saying anything.......once that is out every good ol boy redneck will be out there wanting to mount it in his living room.   Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 02:15 pm:    Garrett, They're still in the Appalachians.... I've gone round and round w/ some people who say otherwise, but I personally know too many people who have seen 'em... it's not just "zoo escapees" as some claim. Mt. Rogers, Clinch Mountain, Blue Ridge, Allegheny.... they're here... -L   gp (Garrett) Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 02:38 pm:    yeah i know. (well kinda) my dad was not really sure who to tell when he saw it. and it is not like my dad would not know what they look like. it was not even scared.......just walked slowly past him in front of the house. but know that my parents don't live in a development. very rural and farms all around them. big damn cat though. first the game commission boys asked if it could have been a domestic cat (?) and then a bob cat. oh sure.......they are so damn similar. drrrrrr. but there is a group withing the PA DCNR (natural resource folks) that are keeping an eye on these 'sitings' and theh # is going up. again they certainly don't want alot of locals finding out about this, as to keep them from 'seeking' them out. but to see one in the wild is pretty impressive. mountain lions are big damn cats. the only ones that i will not mess with. so heed the advise below in regards to mt. lions, but proceed in regards to domestic ones.   Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 02:45 pm:    ROTFLMAO!!!! Actually, Va Tech's Bio. Dept. is doing a study on 'em..... Probably concentrating on VA's cats, but, maybe they'd be interested.... -L   Eric N (Grnrvr) Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 02:47 pm:    Damn... You mean I've been killing about 4 kittens a day   gp (Garrett) Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 02:51 pm:    most likely similar or the same cats. we live right in the middle or the apps up here too. just the right end of them. i kill a litter every afternoon. gotta keep the population down. just doing my job.   John C. Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 03:05 pm:    Not only am I going blind but I am also killing kittens.....ahhhh   Anonymous Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 03:11 pm:    If that were true, just the people on this board alone would've made the cat extinct by now!!!   Eric N (Grnrvr) Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 03:15 pm:    damn, this thread went down in flames quick.. Guess I'll be the first to say "Beer"..   M. K. Watson (Lrover94) Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 03:17 pm:    here kitty kitty kitty....   Kyle Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 03:19 pm:    And the trails are relative to those running them. Everyone knows the boys on the West coast are soft....... Kyle   Ho Chung (Ho) Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 03:27 pm:    hehe, i got your soft... yeah....   Eric N (Grnrvr) Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 03:28 pm:    go north.. think Canada..   Kyle Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 03:30 pm:    I would gladly rnu that little bastard over. But then Rob and Kruger and the greeny gang would be here busting my balls..... Kyle   Ho Chung (Ho) Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 03:34 pm:    this whole east coast west coast thing, just dont' make sense to me. as you can see, the east coasters here are the ones doing the blah blah blah....   Kyle Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 03:38 pm:    Well thats cause the West Coasters are soft by nature. Takes a little to get em to wake up... The bastards even get up 3 hours after we do.... damn.. Kyle   Ho Chung (Ho) Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 03:43 pm:    yeah kyle, blah blah blah....   Kyle Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 03:45 pm:    Even that penquin looks soft......I bet he would squish real easy.... Kyle   Ho Chung (Ho) Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 03:47 pm:    you see the hightened level of blah blah blah here? LOL   Ho Chung (Ho) Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 03:50 pm:    hmmm speaking of softy.... let's talk about ticks. LOL   Chu Son Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 03:51 pm:    After setting up this server, I'd figure you'd be loving Penguins. Don't they say that once you've used it, you can't go back? chu   Rob Davison (Pokerob) Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 03:52 pm:    glad to see the focus has switched back to west coast east coast.. i dont think any of those west coast boys had to worry about hill billies while they are offroad.. it just adds to the fun rd kyle shuddup... wait till you see my new sticker!   Sean H Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 03:59 pm:    As they say here in the mountains of Colorado where the sun shines 335 days a year. The rest of the time it snows. Quit your Blah, Blah, Blah and get out and wheel! Cheers,   gp (Garrett) Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 04:10 pm:    i hope to get out there with my truck later in the summer or fall. just need to get a few weeks off and do it. sure the change will be nice, but ain't no place like home.......east that is.   Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 04:10 pm:    Hey! I just remembered a joke about kids eating birthday cake, where the mom had forgot to buy any of those colored decorative toppings, so she used BBs.... That night, first kid comes in and wakes her up "Mom, I just peed a BB!" Mom says "Don't worry about it" and sends the kid back to bed. Later, the second kid comes in and wakes her up "Mom, I just peed a BB!" Mom says "Don't worry about it" and sends that kid back to bed, too. Then the third kid comes in to wake up Mom...   Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 04:14 pm:    Mom says "Let me guess, you just peed a BB."   Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 04:15 pm:    3rd kid says "No, I was jacking off and shot the cat!"   Kyle Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 04:23 pm:    Well , I know the boys in Cali dont drive anywhere cause "Its too far" and I have been out... So lets talk about ticks ? The Cali boys repel them and would rather roll over in the name of "Cool"... I think pictorial eveidense of this abounds on the net... I dig a tick or two here and there...... Kyle   John Lee Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 04:27 pm:    Ticks? It isn't the West Coast people who are into ticking the hell out of a truck when a tire lifts an inch off the ground. Rather, the West Coast people just go with the flow and are cool as ice. Here are some illustrations. Here's Ho on Yellow Hill, which is in Pritchett Canyon: http://www.discoweb.org/moab2001/pritchett/DSC00181.JPG Yellow Hill isn't that difficult of an obstacle, but there's a big drop-off to the left that makes the obstacle a little dicey. As you can see, Ho is cool and the gang. No ticks. No nothing. Here's me on Yellow Hill: http://www.discoweb.org/moab2001/pritchettho/DCP_0488.jpg Again, no ticks. Just going with the flow. Now, contrast those two West Coast pics with the following pic of an East Coast boy on the same obstacle. This pic typifies East Coast wheeling: http://www.discoweb.org/moab2001/pritchettho/DCP_0481.jpg Not four, but FIVE ticks on there. Now if want to talk about driving Rovers between sticks on an obstacle course or balancing the truck on a giant teeter totter, then admittedly the West Coast boys probably wouldn't do as well as the East Coast boys. After all, the trails out West are good enough that we don't require such activities to keep us interested. But if you're talking about real driving on real trails....   Kyle Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 04:37 pm:    Um , John , shall I go digging ? I remember ticks on Hos truck on Suicide hill to get him up and I also remember none on mine and I went up clean. The un named obstacle in pritchett also had Ho tick laiden and as I recall , yep , I was tick free.... Both of these events are on the Moab Vid... Kyle   Kyle Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 04:40 pm:    LOL , also , in the pic you provided you have three trucks in three different places on an obstacle. You remember the atmosphere there that day ? No spotting fucks!! My left front is still that high with all those bastards on there. It started out much higher and it wasnt gonna get any better... Kyle   Ho Chung (Ho) Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 04:42 pm:    LOL the ticks on chickety .... LOL i remember you were sitting on my softy bumper... but i dont' think that was my request. LOL   Kyle Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 04:53 pm:    Your hood also has a Mexican head dent in it...lol Kyle   Ho Chung (Ho) Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 04:55 pm:    yeah, fucking ticks...   Blue (Bluegill) Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 04:56 pm:    Everybody knows that east coast boys are poseurs! Once in a while, though, they strap on a pair and head west...   Kyle Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 05:01 pm:    Well , what John Lee forgot when he was posting is that Ho actually winched up Yellow hill and that was a pic of him up top. Also , if you have the video you can see this.. Kyle   John Lee Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 05:03 pm:    Here are some more East Coast Pics. Note the similarity to the ticks on Kyle's truck: http://www.circusland.com/photo/akrobat/35.jpg http://www.circusland.com/photo/akrobat/22.jpg http://www.circusland.com/photo/akrobat/20.jpg   Kyle Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 05:05 pm:    Dude , they are all Chalies like you and Ho,,,,,LOL no similarity there , My ticks are american... Kyle   John Lee Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 05:07 pm:    Well, as I said. East Coast pics. They're just Fah East Coast pics.   Blue (Bluegill) Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 05:19 pm:    John, I think you miscounted. I think there are more like NINE ticks on that Disco....   Kyle Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 05:21 pm:    Whats interesting in that pic is that they would spot me around the fucking wall that the passengers side tire was climbing. They just kept saying. "Your fine , your fine".....lol Kyle   John Lee Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 05:25 pm:    Is it time for a flea collar?   Blue (Bluegill) Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 05:31 pm:    hehe yeah Kyle we've talked about that pic before...I believe the word "hookah" was involved...LOL need more penguin tick action front left, or maybe stuff a bunch of them in that right rear hole for traction...   Rob Davison (Pokerob) Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 05:41 pm:    holy shit !!! LOL stop people this is the funniest shit i've ever read on discoweb... hehee fact is: kyle will NEVER live down that picture everytime it comes up! it's like findlay and his winch failing. john lee, showing only the evidence to support his case, what can you expect.. hehee do i recall seeing that headbutt on the video? rd   Kyle Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 05:45 pm:    Well no Rob , I was in a postion that my "Spotters" put me in . You know how that gos dont ya big boy ??? Damper man.... Kyle   Rob Davison (Pokerob) Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 05:50 pm:    another favorite is the west coast , stand around and watch style wheeling... http://www.discoweb.org/moab2001/pritchettho/DCP_0488.jpg 9 pedestrians... http://www.truckworld.com/Travel-Adventure/00-arca-vernal/vernal.html too many to count in the lower pictures rd   Rob Davison (Pokerob) Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 05:53 pm:    yes, i can clearly see your tire ramping up that ledge, i'm not blaming you.. i'm just saying you wont ever escape that picture. and i did that little shock a favour.. thanks for that great weld job on my lower shock mount that time... rd   Ho Chung (Ho) Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 05:53 pm:    well, i have no problem admiting that i winched. at least i winched without wasting time.   John Lee Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 06:02 pm:    Rob, Well, compare these two pics: http://www.discoweb.org/moab2001/pritchettho/DCP_0481.jpg http://www.discoweb.org/moab2001/pritchettho/DCP_0488.jpg The same players are in both pics. In the first pic of the ticking action with Kyle, George, Sean, Kristian, Abe, and Brian are ticking for Kyle and giving it all they got. Contrast that with the second pic. When a West Coast boy is on the same obstacle, those same players (with the exception of Brian who is spotting me) are on top smoking cigs and drinking cold ones. So the "stand around and watch" mentality of the West Coast boys comes from not having to tick at all. As in, "You mean a West Coaster is coming up next? Sheeeit Negro, that's all you had to say. I'll see you at the top."   Rob Davison (Pokerob) Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 06:14 pm:    my new sticker   Rob Davison (Pokerob) Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 06:16 pm:    so what are the folks doin' in the other link i provided? http://www.truckworld.com/Travel-Adventure/00-arca-vernal/vernal.html waiting for some east coast chump to roll up? nigga, please... rd   John Lee Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 06:24 pm:    Well, it says: "62 of the world's finest driver / spotter teams assembled on the Ute Indian Reservation just outside of Vernal for part 4 of the Goodyear Extreme Rock Crawling Championship Series." Unless things are different on the East Coast, there is no ticking allowed during rockcrawling competitions. They may, however, allow ticking during the teeter totter and driving-through-the-sticks portions of the competition.   Andy Nix (Andy) Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 06:50 pm:    good 'ol boys will mount anything.   Moe (Moe) Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 08:34 pm:    "You mean a West Coaster is coming up next? Sheeeit Negro, that's all you had to say. I'll see you at the top." LOL. What a thread! Is that also a West Coast spotter? It looks like there are three options to get to the top: West Coast driver and spotter, East Coast tick method, or plain old winch.   Kyle Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 11:25 pm:    Or East Coast driver dismissing the spotting and getting out to spot himself..... Kyle   Curtis Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 02:07 am:    Kyle - are them ticks hangin' off your rig the same "spotters" that you used to get into that position? The best are in the West. The East are...er...stuck on Kyles rig:-) Curtis   gp (Garrett) Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 08:32 am:    hey nice sticker rob. looks familiar and in the same location. hope i don't get beat up at the next rover outing. thank god they adhere from the inside.   John Kruger (Johnnyk) Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 09:23 am:    Ya know how to get rid of ticks...burn 'em off like we do here in the Midwest. Those damn parasites will suck you dry, after helping a guy out they will expect a beverage or two, and always seem to drink all of it. Kyle, feel free to kill all the kittens you want.... I am not as green as you think.   Curtis Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 10:40 am:    ...another way to get rid of them is to douse them in alcohol. The horror...   Eric N (Grnrvr) Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 10:48 am:    I would think that flooring the truck and then slamming the brakes would work better   Kyle Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 10:56 am:    I dont think so Eric , the real professionls cling on pretty good. Its the amatuers that fly off and bang thir head on your hood... Kyle   KJ Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 11:52 am:    Vis-a-vis the kitten issue: Every time your girl turns you down, another litter is born. The balance in Nature's a wonderful thing, don't you think? Karen   Eric N (Grnrvr) Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 11:57 am:    Well then it must even out.. If she's turning down and causing the monkey to be spanked then it all equals out.. unless ya got to spank it twice.. Of course then look at all the single boys and girls.. They make up for it.. Kitties are still dropping like flies.. Yes, some things are better left un-said and this post I'm sure is one of them..   Kyle Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 12:04 pm:    Well I cant help but push it over the edge. Its just to good to be true. So either way Eric , you are getting a "Little pussy" eh ?? Kyle   KJ Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 12:25 pm:    Over the edge, crashed and burning....another DiscoWeb thread goes up in a huge ball of flames, LOL! Karen ;)   Markd1x2 (Markd1x2) Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 12:46 pm:    \image {catguin}   Eric N (Grnrvr) Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 12:53 pm:    Ya, man.. one way or the other.. And even some strange if I switch from the right hand to the left.. Or the ultimate in strange.. Get one of your hands to fall asleep so that it doesn't feel like you're doing it at all.. Now this post is officially up in flames.. Yes, I'm a sick perv..   Eric N (Grnrvr) Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 12:54 pm:    West Coast boys should know all about that though.. Stirring it up..   Blue (Bluegill) Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 12:56 pm:    hmmmm....nooooo we have female companionship out west   Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 12:57 pm:    Yeah, lots of ewes.....   Eric N (Grnrvr) Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 12:58 pm:    A hole in a rock with a wig on top doesn't count   Blue (Bluegill) Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 01:09 pm:    Ever seen the movie with Dennis Hopper called River's Edge? (I believe it was filmed out east somewhere)   Eric N (Grnrvr) Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 01:12 pm:    Nope, sorry didn't see that one..   Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 01:12 pm:    I've been to where Deliverance was filmed, at Woodall Shoals on the Chattooga.... Didn't stay long, was there just during day-light, wasn't far from the vehicle, and was armed.... Didn't want to make a sequel.... -L   Eric N (Grnrvr) Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 01:13 pm:    You sure do have a pretty mouth there boy!!   Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 01:16 pm:    That's when I start shootin'.... And I don't even ask questions later..... -L   Blue (Bluegill) Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 01:55 pm:    River's Edge (mid-1980's) is great. Keanueaaau Reeves & a few other punks play shiftless kids that do something bad. Hopper plays a crazy backwoods-type dude that sells them all pot. Hopper has a girlfriend that I think you'all easters would just love....LOL   Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 02:14 pm:    I dunno about Keanu.... the Matrix helped recoup some coolness, but I can't get over My Own Private Idaho..... Creepy.... -L   Blue (Bluegill) Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 02:55 pm:    Bill & Ted's was Keueneauuuae's best (and should have been his only) work   Kim S (Roverine) Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 07:59 pm:    ROTFLMAO ... ah, another fine thread ... Okay, back to topic ... (above) referring to spotters: "The best are in the West." Yes, and much patience too ... like when I just stop and freeze (blocking trail, and possibly inciting "offroad rage") ... John Lee has figured out the secret for spotting me (i.e. coaxing me) through anything ... ... You may not be able to see it clearly in this pic, but in his other hand he is holding a large bag of M&M's ... Kim   Kim S (Roverine) Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 08:02 pm:    Oh I give up!!! Kim   Jeff Bieler (Mrbieler) Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 08:04 pm:    Kim, no one likes a quitter. It better out West. Home of the human roll bar. Just ask Greg....   Kim S (Roverine) Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 08:09 pm:    LOL, you're definately right ... Kim   Kim S (Roverine) Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 08:29 pm:    Okay, I'm on a mission ... (this is humiliating, but I guess that hasn't ever stopped me,) one more try .....   John Lee Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 09:00 pm:    Kim, "... You may not be able to see it clearly in this pic, but in his other hand he is holding a large bag of M&M's ..." Those aren't M&M's. They're H&K's.   Rob Davison (Pokerob) Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 09:27 pm:    looks like you are taunting the rover to a fight. rd   Rob Davison (Pokerob) Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 09:36 pm:    oops   Rob Davison (Pokerob) Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 09:38 pm:      John Lee Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 09:56 pm:    Don't mess with Roverine: http://www.expeditionexchange.com/truckhaven2/101-0109_IMG.JPG   Kyle Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 08:25 am:    LOL , I am wondering exactly who had ahold of who in that pic... Looks like the rifle was takin over.... Kyle   Eric N (Grnrvr) Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 09:47 am:    If that was full auto she would have been shooting planes out of the sky or worse..   Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 09:52 am:    Naw.... Kalishnikovs are really good about staying pointed in the general direction of their target on full-auto. They're not "target-rifles", but darn fine as a battle rifle. A '16 variant, sure, they'll climb on anyone on full-auto, that's partly why they changed them to 3-shot bursts. -L   Eric N (Grnrvr) Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 10:24 am:    Ya, but if you look at her stance that gun would be out of control real quick.. Not that I'm an expert or anything.. Any way back to the west vs. east coast.. I'm thinking that a Bi-athalon would be cool.. Drive an obsticle, shoot a group of targets.. Just use trucks in stead of skis. West coast boyz vs. east coast..   M. K. Watson (Lrover94) Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 10:44 am:    hmmmmmmmmmm, good idea eric   Eric N (Grnrvr) Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 10:47 am:    Ya, but, what place to do it at? It would have to be somewhere in the middle of the Map on neutral soil..   Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 10:48 am:    I'm picturing that commercial with the Nissans playing polo..... -L   Eric N (Grnrvr) Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 10:50 am:    Motor Polo.. How about the soccer game with the huge ball and VW bugs..   M. K. Watson (Lrover94) Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 10:52 am:    how about a coast to coast biathalon. that way noone has a total advantage. one actual competive vehicle followed by one support car. driver just drive passenger/navigator shoots (after a brief obstacle course).   Kyle Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 10:56 am:    Only if we can shoot at the little Nissans.... Kyle   gp (Garrett) Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 11:00 am:    drinking would have to be involved somehow of course. not suggesting trucks/guns/beer at the same time. separate events and days. all that light beer you southwest/western boys & girls drink won't be admissible.   M. K. Watson (Lrover94) Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 11:07 am:    yea its heavy midwest brewed lager, not that girlie oops wimpie, low cal no taste whiz those left coast guys drink.   Eric N (Grnrvr) Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 11:14 am:    Um, the beer of choice would have to be Guiness.. The rule could be you have to drink 3 Guinesses then set the cans up at 25 yards and shoot (must be a hole in the can) them with hand guns (50 yards if you want to use rifles ).. Then continue on to the next check point where you repeat.. Driver doesn't drink shooter does.   M. K. Watson (Lrover94) Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 11:20 am:    lets make it real interesting, 3 drinks, (16oz each) .50 cal. BMG on a 500 yard range. 1 shot into 1 keg in 3 minutes or less total time.   John Lee Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 11:35 am:    Man, I notice all of these challenges are coming from the East Coast boys. We West Coasters don't need no stinkin' challenges. We West Coasters already do the stuff you guys are talking about. In addition to our better trails, we have the following: Shooting? We got your shooting: http://www.expeditionexchange.com/truckhaven2/101-0105_IMG.JPG http://www.expeditionexchange.com/truckhaven2/DSCN0005a.jpg http://www.expeditionexchange.com/truckhaven2/DCP_0987.jpg http://www.expeditionexchange.com/truckhaven2/DCP_0988.jpg http://www.expeditionexchange.com/truckhaven2/DSC01491.jpg Drinking? We got your drinking: http://www.expeditionexchange.com/truckhaven2/DCP_0971.jpg http://www.expeditionexchange.com/ics/DCP_2500.jpg http://www.expeditionexchange.com/ics/DCP_2545.jpg Fine dining? We got your haute cuisine: http://www.expeditionexchange.com/truckhaven2/DCP_0977.jpg http://www.expeditionexchange.com/truckhaven2/DCP_0980.jpg http://www.expeditionexchange.com/ics/DCP_2510.jpg http://www.expeditionexchange.com/ics/DCP_2536.jpg http://www.expeditionexchange.com/ics/DCP_2549.jpg http://www.expeditionexchange.com/ics/DCP_2580.jpg http://www.expeditionexchange.com/ics/DSC00130.jpg And don't be messing with Roverine. Here's another shot of Roverine in action: http://www.hkpro.com/usprainbow.jpg Sorry, but I don't have any teeter totter pics or pics of us driving through sticks.   niall forbes (Forbesn) Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 11:58 am:    www.roverpolo.org Long before the nissan ad. Niall Forbes   Blue (Bluegill) Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 12:06 pm:    I'm up for some biathalon action.   gp (Garrett) Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 12:09 pm:    look sally, opps i mean john......reason for the west coast crowd not making challanges is because they are still in wrapped up like a canoli(?) in bed and/or in the process of changing their 'Depends.' come on over here and i am sure leslie can properly introduce you to some local boys/girls like these for some boozing and shooting.   gp (Garrett) Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 12:13 pm:    ps: those cans of 'beers' (as you may want to call them) are full. hmmmmmm. looks like alot of drinking going on. yep. and some squirt in there for mixers eh??? busting your balls of course. i am an easy target so have at me if you wish.   Ho Chung (Ho) Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 12:19 pm:    so gp, tell me something. do you go out drinking and partying with those nashittille pussies? are they your buddies?   gp (Garrett) Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 12:25 pm:    hell no!! they are out of my league. i mean for one their dress attire is a little too casual for my taste. even those ladies can pound a bottle of jagermeister in one sitting. you just won't catch me drinking light beers. even on a hot day! i can certainly hold my own though. believe me on that one.   M. K. Watson (Lrover94) Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 12:29 pm:    what the hell is tecateee anyways, must be some hard core lite mixican beer. and the squirt is that the mixer for some of them there flowery drinks you west coast boys drink. and what about those pea shooters you boys (and girls) are playing with (altho the collection of the said pea shooters was very impressive). there not a decent baer killer in the group. those vittles are sure nice lookin tho. i see a bi-athalon/cook off/beer drinking contest.   Eric N (Grnrvr) Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 12:33 pm:    Hey, isn't that Kyle holding the shot gun?? What I don't get is why they even make a Corona lite? What, the regular isn't lite enough?   Blue (Bluegill) Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 12:34 pm:    yeah, but if we stage a biathalon event, all the easters will bring 12-gauges so they can manage to hit the broad side of a barn...   Kyle Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 12:40 pm:    Hmmm , I dont think you wanna go there Bluegill,,,,, Kyle   Blue (Bluegill) Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 12:43 pm:    into your barn? I think you're right LOL   Ho Chung (Ho) Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 12:47 pm:    lite beer, dark beer.... so if i drink bud lite, i am a pussy?   Eric N (Grnrvr) Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 12:58 pm:    Ho, if you have to ask.. Shotgun... This isn't a turkey hunt..   gp (Garrett) Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 01:02 pm:    i mean 'gay porn' and 'lite beer' are usually used in the same sentence.   Eric N (Grnrvr) Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 01:04 pm:    I thought that drinking light beer is how gay porn started..   Kyle Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 01:06 pm:    Well the West Coast boys seem to like little stickers that say there is a hunk of iron in the vehicle and some pics with ear muffed shooters firing into the desert. Mostly on the East coast you dont know it was there until its wayyyy too late....... You West coast boys come and play out here. I have been there already and couldnt get none of you to come out with me.... Kyle   Ho Chung (Ho) Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 01:13 pm:    hmmm, i'd gladly go out there. just show me why i should go out there. is it really worth driving 3000 miles to be hanging with a bunch of all talk no action crowd? show me some east coast action please, because so far has been all talk. and about beer... gay this, lite that.... starting to sound like blah blah again. actually, i take that back, sounds more like some type of complex... like... gotta drink some dark shit to prove i ain't gay? LOL   gp (Garrett) Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 01:25 pm:    i am working on it Ho. getting my truck and myself to a point where i am comfortable doing most things (east or west) will come soon enough. you have a few years head start on me. beefing up the truck is slow with me. "like... gotta drink some dark shit to prove i ain't gay? LOL" well lets start by you peeing standing up first OK?? LOL baby steps Ho.....baby steps.   Roverine Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 01:27 pm:    LMAO!! (actually, I wish I could laugh my ass OFF a bit ... I think I just gained a few more pounds looking at that great food again ...) West is best ... come on out. We've got it all Kim (if we go near the beach tho', we may have to require some restraints for Garrett, )   M. K. Watson (Lrover94) Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 01:29 pm:    now thats target practice! http://www.serbu.com/wyo2.mpg   John Lee Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 01:31 pm:    Man, so far all I've seen from the East Coasters is talk. Talk about how the West Coasters are gay. Talk about our beer cans being full. But at least we have pics of our beer cans. Talk about poor shooting technique. At least we have pics of us shooting. Talk about our lousy west coast trails. At least we have pics of our trucks on the trails and not in some parking lot at a Rover rally. What we have is not the ultimate but at least we're showing something other than talk. The only pic I've seen thus far is some generic pic pulled from some website or something with some rednecks on it. Oh, there has been more than talk. There have been a few rover polo challenges thrown out, but these are also just another variety of talk. So all talk and no action from the East Coast boys so far. Is nobody back East the real deal? I know Kyle is the real deal because I've wheeled with him before and seen him in action. Still, when I see this I must pause and wonder: http://www.discoweb.org/robesonia/DSC00027.JPG Is that yet another tick on Kyle's truck?   Kyle Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 01:45 pm:    And here is Kyle on the beach in California all by himself. Where are the west coasters ? http://www.expeditionexchange.com/kyle/img018.jpg Kyle   JRoc Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 01:45 pm:    How to make East Coast light beer: Empty one 12 oz. bottle of Guiness into glass Divide into two equal portions Consume liberally Serves 2 Any Question??? East Coast JRoc PS I can't shoot for shit, and I'm usually in no shape to drive, but I volunteer to be the designated drinker in that lil contest! O and what the f**k is Tecate??? I think Yoo-Hoo is stronger than that! Oh and fella's, mexican's don't REALLY like us. You might not want to drink anything they sell to us. If I were mexican I don't want to tell you what you'd be drinkin!   gp (Garrett) Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 01:46 pm:    hehe. that's me actually. not really sure what the hell i was doing. i was just hoping to get a ride to my truck i guess. blah blah blah. i know. ps: kim i am fully capable of restraining myself from a bunch of over the hill women in one piece suits!! hehe. hell.....if i can manage to walk away from the adult video expo in vegas i can manage a beach.   Eric N (Grnrvr) Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 01:47 pm:    That just means that you guys are camera happy.. Got to take pictures of every thing.. However, I like to talk trash but, the trails that I have been on so far are not as "Extreme" as you guys get to ride... Would love to go out there and check them out but, no time.. So for now I'm going to talk trash   Eric N (Grnrvr) Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 01:49 pm:    But, I can drink and shoot..   John Lee Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 01:52 pm:    Yeah, that's what I expected. Kyle, the lone wolf real real East Coaster, is the only one with pics. All else is beer talk (because the beer back east is just as good as the beer out West). This reminds me of how everyone rips on the Yellow XD's for being a faggoty color or being ovepriced or whatever, when you know damn well everyone wants an XD.   Blue (Bluegill) Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 01:56 pm:    What? You guys have to speak up - I have my ear muffs on and can't hear a damn thing   Eric N (Grnrvr) Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 01:57 pm:    I have some pictures.. Just not really good "extreme" wheeling.. Look at GWNF in the trails gallery.. I just haven't been wheeling that long.. Used to small and fast not big and slow..   JRoc Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 02:01 pm:    Hey Kyle, I think we found your secret admirer! LOL Just kiddin John, please don't ban me from buying from EE! At least I bit my tongue on the connection between asians and camera's thing! That took alot of restraint! LOL   Ho Chung (Ho) Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 02:04 pm:    actually john, i am sure there are plenty more real deal people back east. they are probably reading this tread and shaking their heads.... saddened by the fact that the few east coasters here make the rest look bad. and what's with all this extreem thing? i don't think i ever been on an extreeem trail.   Blue (Bluegill) Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 02:07 pm:    hehe like I said before - it's all good. I just like the relative isolation out here. I live in the 6th largest city in the USA, and one of (if not THE) fastest growing cities. Yet I can drive less than 25 miles from my front door in middle class suberbia and wheel in places like this: now as far as the east vs west quasi-debate goes, I'd post a pic of my dick laying on the table if I could only get the pic down below 50kb   John Lee Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 02:09 pm:    "Extreme"? The wheeling we do is certainly fun and entertaining, but I would hardly call it extreme wheeling. I leave that for the ARCA crowd.   Eric N (Grnrvr) Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 02:18 pm:    Just goofing off with the "extreme" comments.. You're right Ho.. Shucks, I better just go home and sell the rover now.. Not like I ever use the thing anyway..   Ho Chung (Ho) Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 02:26 pm:    eric, i know you are goofing off with the extreem comments. but i know some others are real serious about the usage of the word EXTREME...   Eric N (Grnrvr) Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 02:32 pm:    Ok so some where in Ohio or similar state and we find a place that has trails, allows guns, and allows beer.. Then we have a great west coast east coast hand shake and then get to having some fun..   Ho Chung (Ho) Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 02:42 pm:    hehe. i'll bring the tecate. or corona lite, if they aren't sold out. and let's not forget our little friend   Ho Chung (Ho) Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 02:43 pm:    hmmm, wait, ohio? i forgot i had to clean the pool, sorry, i can't make it.   Kyle Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 03:09 pm:    Yea , I figured that pool was gonna get dirty all of a sudden,,,,LOL I wanna get the boys in some tree/mud combo kinda deals... Kyle   Kyle Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 03:20 pm:    Damn Jroc is right. There are a big bunch of Chalies over there on the West Coast so I am sure the pics are getting snapped right and left... That explains it all... Its a damn Asian Invasion.... Kyle   JRoc Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 03:44 pm:    Wait a minute Kyle, I didn't say that! LOL Remeber, We east coast they Fah east coast! LOL But honestly, that fu*kin grub looked good!!! Who's the chef over there? Big Kudos to him!!!   Eric N (Grnrvr) Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 03:49 pm:    Ok Ho, how about MN? It's in the middle of the US. Got to have some good places to wheel in MN.. With all those lakes they got to have some mud.   JRoc Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 03:51 pm:    And unless we do our East Coast Video in Central Park, and show graphic pics of us running over celebrities with our trucks, I don't think it's gonna hold a candle to the MOAB Video! That's just cruel, having us do a East Coast Video to compete with the Moab (LOL). And if anyone's intrested in the Central Park Idea it gets real crowded on Saturdays and Sundays all summer! LOL   John Lee Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 03:53 pm:    LOL, chalies and cameras. Too true. JROC, the (Iron) Chefs are: Sam Yu: http://www.expeditionexchange.com/truckhaven2/DCP_0978.jpg Ho Chung: http://www.expeditionexchange.com/ics/DCP_2534.jpg Jay Allen: http://www.expeditionexchange.com/ics/DCP_2508.jpg Michael Villanueva: http://www.expeditionexchange.com/ics/DCP_2519.jpg   Rob Davison (Pokerob) Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 03:56 pm:    also close to hollywood.. maybe they think they are acting.   Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 04:05 pm:    "LOL, chalies and cameras. Too true." Holy crap! On a western geology trip, Walt and I were up in Banff... we hiked up the Athabasca glacier, to where it came out of the Columbia ice field. We didn't even have crampons, but at least we had sturdy boots, daypacks, technical shells, and rock hammers.... (ice axes would have been cooler). The chateau there has these 8-wheeled all-wheel drive buses... they drive up along side the glacier, then turn out onto it and park, about halfway up. So, as we're approaching the "parking area" on the glacier, we notice that EVERYONE was a "chalie with a camera".... As we walk by, they're ALL taking pictures of us.... Then, on our way back down, there's a different group parked in the same spot, and it all happens again.... What was funny is, half of them would act like they're taking a picture of their friend, then quickly turn and snap a pic of us, then quickly turn back again hoping that we didn't see them. Some had video cameras... it was a real hoot, thinking what their home video would be like! lol.... -L   Ho Chung (Ho) Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 04:12 pm:    leslie, perhaps you saw me there, was anyone waving at you? LOL   Simon E. Arenas (Simon) Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 04:15 pm:    it seams that the best place i've search is in tennessee mountains... i have never been there so I dunno... but come on.. we have to bring you chalies east.. it's a different USA in here.... 80) Simon   Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 04:17 pm:    LOL..... Not any waving that I remember.... most of them were "too polite" to wave or acknowledge that we were even there..... FWIW, it would've been early August of '94, if I'm counting back correctly.... -L   Ho Chung (Ho) Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 04:22 pm:    too polite? LOL i was like that too. but now my eyes are bigger, and it's changed the way i see the world.   John Lee Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 04:24 pm:    Les, Maybe you were the first white man they had ever seen.   Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 04:26 pm:    ROTFL..... It was scenic, actually.... It was foggy out on the glacier, they couldn't see that far... it was only when we were up at the head that we really could see any distance... They really do look better from afar instead of up on 'em, but they're still cool (Ha! sorry, bad pun...) -L   Hank Shank (Disco_Tex) Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 04:38 pm:    Guns, beer, and four wheel drives. I love this board! What a country! Call the owner of Shiloh Ridge and tell him your idea, I'm betting he would let y'all have the contest here in TX. If that is neutral enough. www.shilohridge.com   JRoc Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 06:41 pm:    Wow, if you guys shoot as well as you cook let's get you over to Afganistan quick! LOL Now I really gotta watch that I don't piss any of you guys off, cuz I'd love to be on the recieving end of some of that fine cooking one day! Mr. Yu, Chung, Allen, Villanueva I am not worthy! LOL Oh and hypathetically speaking, if I am ever fortunate enough to be in a feast with you guys, I'll bring the beer!!! LOL Take care guys.   Jeff Bieler (Mrbieler) Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 07:20 pm:    West is best for a simple reason. Where else could you, within 100 miles, 4wheel in places like:   Jeff Bieler (Mrbieler) Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 07:22 pm:    West is best for a simple reason. Where else could you, within 100 miles, 4wheel in places like:   John Lee Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 07:46 pm:    West Coast or East Coast? Here are some examples to compare and contrast. The differences are clear. West Coast: http://www.expeditionexchange.com/ics/DCP_2622.jpg East Coast: http://www.roversnorth.com/roverfest/roverfest62.jpg West Coast: http://www.expeditionexchange.com/truckhaven2/P2230012.jpg East Coast: http://www.roversnorth.com/roverfest/roverfest10.jpg West Coast: http://www.expeditionexchange.com/truckhaven2/DSC01692.jpg East Coast: http://www.roversnorth.com/roverfest/roverfest16.jpg West Coast: http://www.expeditionexchange.com/truckhaven2/101-0145_IMG.JPG East Coast: http://www.spanishtrailrovers.com/Past_Events/Past_Intro_to_Offroading_Event/Jennifer_True/final_result.jpg   Jay Allen Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 07:53 pm:    Man o man John, this chit is too funny. LMAO big time...........   Moe (Moe) Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 08:31 pm:    LOL, very nice comparisons   niall forbes (Forbesn) Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 08:43 pm:    http://www.delrc.com/SnowFlake/images/P2160047_jpg.jpg http://www.DELRC.com/SnowFlake/images/P2170029_jpg.jpg http://www.DELRC.com/SnowFlake/images/P2170042_jpg.jpg http://www.delrc.com/RoverFest/images/rf1_jpg.jpg http://www.delrc.com/BSROA/images/BS3_jpg.jpg http://www.delrc.com/labor%20day/ns15.jpg OK, so these aren't hard core pics but they're decent trails and not bad for a couple minute search (on only one website). I've never been off-road out west but I'm sure it's awesome. The pics from OTR have me wanting to hit CO badly. There are similar trials out here but most are different, but that's good. It would suck if all there was was Moab or mud or whatever. It's about variety. And if you've got the right attitude and are hanging with some decent guys, you'll have fun no matter what trail you're on. As for beer, well I'm sure you can get East Coast beer shipped west ;-) Niall Forbes Dartmouth, Nova Scotia "I'm an East Coast Kid!!"   JRoc Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 08:53 pm:    Jeff, Most of That looks like Afganistan! Which would probably be a great place to wheel too but I'M NOT MOVING THERE EITHER! LOL But I think the west is better because they cook REAL good!!! LOL How's that???   gp (Garrett) Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 10:26 pm:    well just so ya'll know RoverFest has been canceled for this year. i know......i know....you boys out west are a little busted up about it. those were pretty funny pics though john. loved the *pointing at the dirty wheel* pic. ps: that pic i posted a ways back was not just some random pic off the web. i am going to see that band this coming tuesday.   Rob Davison (Pokerob) Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 11:02 pm:    east is the best.. mideast that is: http://www.swissatv.com/SandMan.jpg   Simon E. Arenas (Simon) Posted on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 10:05 am:    well you are all wrong!!! South america RULES!!!! http://www.rutas4wd.com.ve/foto_galeria/fotos_rutas.php3?inicio=8 http://www.rutas4wd.com.ve/foto_galeria/fotos_rutas.php3?inicio=12 Simon   Blue (Bluegill) Posted on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 10:45 am:    There's a feeling I get when I look to the West, and my spirit is crying for wheeling............it makes me wonder......   Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Posted on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 10:47 am:    NO! Don't bastardize THAT song, Blue..... Gotta admit, tho', it fits..... -L   KJ Posted on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 11:01 am:    Aren't you boys a little young to be knowin' that song? Karen, old enough to remember it the first time around   Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Posted on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 11:09 am:    I used to be able to play that one in my sleep.... Too bad I didn't keep up w/ it, now my guitar-playing sucks BAD..... Wouldn't be unfair to say, though, that that song was part of the reason why I ever wanted to play in the first place.... lol.... -L   Kyle Posted on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 11:18 am:    South America ? I am sure it would be great if it werent for all the Mexicans.... Kyle   Blue (Bluegill) Posted on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 11:32 am:    D'OH!   gp (Garrett) Posted on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 11:46 am:    mexicans eh? hmmm. i thought they were all hanging out in arizona. viva los lobos!!!   John Lee Posted on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 12:37 pm:    "well just so ya'll know RoverFest has been canceled for this year. i know......i know....you boys out west are a little busted up about it." Actually, that really sucks. I make fun of events like Roverfest because of the parking lot rallies, the driving through sticks, and the teeter totters, but there is more to wheeling than climbing rocks or putting your vehicle at risk. There are certainly many different forms of wheeling. Besides, I don't think anybody really goes to these types of events for the wheeling anyway. These types of events can't have difficult trails for the liability to the organizers and the large number of people attending would make any difficult wheeling impossible. I think people attend these types of events more to see and be seen as well as meet other Rover fanatics, and that can certainly be very enjoyable in its own right. That's really too bad about Roverfest. "those were pretty funny pics though john. loved the *pointing at the dirty wheel* pic." Actually, I didn't think that was the funny part of that pic. I was cracking up more at Perrone's GQ pose.   ken Posted on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 12:46 pm:    But who drives all the way from NY or VA to go to Moab?? how many west coast folks drive to the east. Not this kid.   Kyle Posted on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 12:48 pm:    Um Ken ? How many ? Now , I really hate that Roverfest is no more. I can no longer refer to it as "pouserfest" now... Kyle   gp (Garrett) Posted on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 01:24 pm:    he did look pretty hot. had to take another look. rarrrrrhhh. they cancelled it due to the few people that were organizing it and it was getting to be too much for the local rover club. they will now be focusing on more smaller events that take less time to organize. i went last year and had a good time......usually make a nice long weekend trip out of it. bring the mt. bikes along and there you have it.   Blue (Bluegill) Posted on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 01:28 pm:    sorry for bastardizing the mantra sorry Leslie sorry Robert sorry Jimmy sorry JP sorry Bonzo   Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Posted on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 01:31 pm:    Now, go and do pennance and be forgiven.... Oh wait, I'm not Catholic, they're not Catholic.... nevermind.... lol..... -L   Blue (Bluegill) Posted on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 01:36 pm:    as pennance I will drive to the east coast and go wheelin LOL by the way, who's the anon a-hole who started this whole thing?!   Anonymous Posted on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 01:42 pm:    Prob. Kyle bored at work   Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Posted on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 01:44 pm:    Hey, if you come east, I'll do my darndest to get off work and away from the wife and head to Tellico.... Gotta admit, this thread has had more facets than any I can recall.... -L   Simon E. Arenas (Simon) Posted on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 02:31 pm:    i think someone here has mexicanfobia... 80) simon   KJ Posted on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 04:02 pm:    No kidding, Leslie, LOL! This is the longest thread I've ever read on DiscoWeb that didn't include J**p bashing or war chat. Can you feel the Luv? Karen   Roverine Posted on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 04:08 pm:    I gotta say Simon, South America would rock!! I've traveled a ways down into central America, but that was when I was very young (I've always dreamed of going on an expedition from California all the way down). Now I just fly occasionally down to tourist spots. Too bad I'm just an ill equiped gringa for a trip down there ... There are enough people in spots on the way (nowadays) that just don't take too kindly to my type (unless they think I may be good for some ransom $) Ah well, I can dream on ... Kim   Kyle Posted on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 04:16 pm:    Exactly Kim , its the Mexicans............ kyle   Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Posted on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 04:20 pm:    Ya know, Karen.... I think you're right, the only ones I can think of that were longer were the Jeep-wars thread (that I started, BTW), and the WTC thread (which I didn't start!)..... But, you can't say that this thread hasn't done enough bashing of its own! Is there anyone we haven't poked yet? How about the Irish, since St. Patty's is upon us?? LOL.... I'm a little bit scots-irish, so I can make fun of my kin, I suppose.... Is anyone else planning on corned beef and cabbage and soda bread for a meal this weekend?? With lots of dark beer.... hmmm good..... lol.... -L   Ho Chung (Ho) Posted on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 04:21 pm:    what about south america? jungle and mosquito? and especially if you can't speak the native language there, then you are really fucked. LOL   Roverine Posted on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 04:30 pm:    Mi Espanol es muy caca .... Kim   Simon E. Arenas (Simon) Posted on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 04:38 pm:    Kim, if you do your research you will find that not all the countries are full of mexicans that wants to kidnap you... I don't know about central america but south america is awesome we don't put fancy names to trails, those are the only routes to get to great beaches, rivers, falls etc.. I'm also dreaming of doing a trip to Venezuela they have tons of rovers and people that I know... one day I'll do it...I keep hoping my dream will come true. and HO, I have never seen mosquitos so big in my life but I'm not in Venezuela anymore I'm in freaking Miami hehehehe.. Simon   Ho Chung (Ho) Posted on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 04:42 pm:    well, what can i say.... i still think US is the shit. and i like being realistic.... i know south america ain't happening. just like importing a 110. LOL   Simon E. Arenas (Simon) Posted on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 04:42 pm:    hey Kyle... don't you have a place to crash in Caracas? and Kim a lot of people mastica el ingles! in south america no need for spanish... hehe you will look less gringa! if you don't try to speak spanish and will make the ransom cheaper!.. heehehehehhe. Simon   KJ Posted on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 04:46 pm:    Well Kim, if you didn't drive that $150,000.00 Rover, you wouldn't be such a target! And your Espanol was good enough for this white girl to understand ;) Leslie, I'd forgotten you'd brought the J**p pox upon our happy home! SOoooooo, for St. Patrick's Day you get to BE Catholic, and say a few Hail Mary's as pennance! Karen   Simon E. Arenas (Simon) Posted on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 04:47 pm:    every time I go back to Vzla to visit I get into little trips like that, I just don't take my disco!.. that's why one day I'll ship it there... Simon.   Roverine Posted on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 04:48 pm:    I like the jungle, (machetes & all) ... I could leave the mosquitos tho', but of course, soy loco en la cabeza ... St Patrick's Day ... yes, I've got a "load of Irish" in me (maiden name was Kelley - that's with an EY, lol). I usually reserve my official Margarita season for when we turn the clocks forward, (daylight savings time) however, since they're lime green, I suppose I could jump the gun a little and whip some out on Sunday ... Kim   Jeff Bieler (Mrbieler) Posted on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 04:53 pm:    What ever happened to the good old days when "Irish Need Not Apply" still meant something...   John Lee Posted on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 04:54 pm:    "Is there anyone we haven't poked yet? How about the Irish, since St. Patty's is upon us??" Sorry Les, but I can't help you there. I'll wheel with the blacks, Mexicans, and the chalies, but I would never stoop low enough to wheel with the Irish.   Simon E. Arenas (Simon) Posted on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 04:54 pm:    Karen you not too far.. a 97 disco is selling for $45,000.00 in Caracas so yes it is very expensive... but places were kidnaps are rare no one is going to touch a disco no need.. they have thousands of land cruisers to steal and ship to the colombian guerrilla..... simon.   KJ Posted on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 05:05 pm:    Dag Simon, think they'd want a lightly used 2001? I'll only charge $100K...a bargain! Not one gorilla hair in it, either ;) Karen   JRoc Posted on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 05:10 pm:    Leslie, Now ya talkin! I'm only a small part Scotch-Irish but this weekend I'm 100% Green! That's the beauty of St.Pats Day, everyone gets involved! At least here in New York, well usually. The mood this year is a little more somber. The men of NYFD who lost there lives, many of which were Irish, did so Unselfishly in the hope of saving lives. They will be remembered this St. Pats Day and everyday by many, and my first pint of Guinness will be in honor of these brave men! Not sure which day I'll party the hardest though. The parade's tomorrow but Sunday's Officially St.Pats Day. The meal's the same every year though, Shepherd's pie and Guinness beers, with shots of Jameson's in between. I love this holiday!!! And if you've never tried Guinness this is the perfect time to give it a try, on tap. Purists say if it's not outta the tap, then it aint Guinness. Don't be afraid of the dark! Happy St. Patricks Day to all, and don't forget to wear Green and say a prayer for the FDNY.   Roverine Posted on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 05:13 pm:    "Sorry Les, but I can't help you there. I'll wheel with the blacks, Mexicans, and the chalies, but I would never stoop low enough to wheel with the Irish." ... Apparently, I've left quite a mental scar on poor John, hehehe.... KJ, you've gotta try a "Margie" someday (it's almost that time of year you know, hehehe). How are your "Jack Daniel Terriers" doing, BTW? - Had a smile on my face thinking about that the other day, when I had my "Pit Boxer" out for a walk,,, LOL Kim   Simon E. Arenas (Simon) Posted on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 05:21 pm:    karen , gorilla or guerrilla? LOL.... a 2001 hum... i don't know but I saw a 98 (i think) RR for $80,000.00 go to: www.tucarro.com and click the land rover symbol on the left 1000 Bolivares is about 1 dollar you do the math! Simon   Blue (Bluegill) Posted on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 05:51 pm:    >"I would never stoop low enough to wheel with the Irish" I fart in your general direction.   Kyle Posted on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 06:18 pm:    You are a leprechaun Bluegill ? I shoulda know ya sawed off bastard. I like to call the Irish Rock farmers.... Kyle   Simon E. Arenas (Simon) Posted on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 06:58 pm:    Kyle's worst nightmare LOL Simon   p m Posted on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 08:12 pm:    I think wheelin on the East Coast is somewhat like this: it took the lady behind the wheel three attempts to raise the bow wave good enuff for a photo peter   Simon E. Arenas (Simon) Posted on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 08:21 pm:    humm... and here you have BLUE!!!! Simon   DaveB Posted on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 08:27 pm:    You can do the same thing on the west coast, only the water looks allot nicer on the west cost. Got the shot with my girlfriend behind the wheel on the first try. So there- West still rules. enough said- Dave   p m Posted on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 08:41 pm:    yeah, my wife did that on the first try - took me a while to get clean up a gigantic cow pie under the hood afterwards peter   Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Posted on Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 12:22 am:    Heh heh..... THE MEXICAN SCOTSMAN (C. Downie) (The Ballad Of José McGregor) José, get your bagpipes And head down to the square Serenade the passers-by And you'll make some money there José came to this country Looking for a chance To make some decent money To buy a pair of pants But we were in recession And jobs were far and few So José took his bagpipes And did what he had to do Dressed in his sombrero and kilt With his bagpipes and maracas Playing away for his supper Boiled haggis with nachos One day while he has busking A pretty young lassie came by She says, "José, take a stroll with me," Says José, "Si, si! Och aye!" They spent the day together Then she took him to a dance Where José moved most gracefully 'Cause he wasn't wearing pants And he was born in Mexico City Educated in Scotland In sandals and bright tartan poncho José's fashion statement was not planned But when José went to the men's room There was trouble close at hand For in came Bob, the sailor man The roughest man in the land Says Bob, "You're looking pretty In your little tartan dress Now you'd best be off to the ladies' room 'Fore I pummels ya into a mess!" Now you could have heard a pin drop As José turned around His Scottish-Mexican blood began to boil And it made this kind of sound And when it all was over Sailor Bob lay on the floor He looked the saddest, sorry wreck Ever blown ashore Now the sailors keep a lookout Whenever they're on the land For they knows well that ya doesn't mess With a Scottish-Mexican Man! -L   KJ Posted on Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 12:24 am:    BABY HO RULES! Ahhhh, I feel better now.......... Karen McJones   Anonymous Posted on Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 12:32 am:    I always wear orange on st. patrick's day. most people are too dumb to get it, the rest are too smart to fight me about it   M. K. Watson (Lrover94) Posted on Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 04:38 pm:    why can't we all just get along?   KJ Posted on Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 11:10 pm:    Hey Kim, I'm afraid I'm down one Jack Daniel's Terrier as of two weeks ago. The old girl finally had to be eased to her Great Reward. Sad, damned stuff, I swear. But, we still have her bro, blind and bonking into things, but here and otherwise pretty happy. I've never had dogs get so old, these are the toughest little things on the planet. Karen, still a tad   KJ Posted on Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 11:21 pm:    Wow, Simon, they are asking $42,000.00 for a 1997 Disco, and $38K for a 2000 Freelander! Pricey vehicles outside the States, aren't they? My UK pals tell me they pay much more in the UK because of the VAT, etc. Had a Brit buddy over Thursday night, and he was checking out our Disco and liking it. He was the same one who couldn't believe I'd buy anything except his favorite American car, a BUICK! He was only here on business, and proudly pointed out the rental Buick he had, saying, "Look what The Queen rented for me!" LOL! Karen   Douglas Jones (Ozaukeedoug) Posted on Sunday, March 17, 2002 - 03:45 pm:    East coast and West coast are [i]both[/i] crap. For real off-roading you need to come to the North coast. Great Lakes country. I've seen your pictures and east or west has nothing on us. You want sand? We got that. Silver Lake, MI   Douglas Jones (Ozaukeedoug) Posted on Sunday, March 17, 2002 - 03:58 pm:    Mud? Got that, too!   Blue (Bluegill) Posted on Monday, March 18, 2002 - 12:21 pm:    >"You are a leprechaun Bluegill ? I shoulda know ya sawed off bastard. I like to call the Irish Rock farmers.... Kyle" 100% Funny you should say that - I spent this past weekend drinking Guiness & Killians & diggin rocks out of my front yard (no matter how much I watered them, they wouldn't grow). Simon, that's some funny shit...   Roverine Posted on Monday, March 18, 2002 - 01:41 pm:    KJ, Damn, I am so sorry about your dog ... We also have two geriatric pets that are part of the family, and I know how we feel about them. Wish they could live forever, but sometimes seeing them deteriorate is the toughest part. After I inquired, I suddenly thought about that, and I couldn't remember if your "Jack Daniel's" were old or not ... I had a funny feeling after I posted ... Shoulda thought more before hitting the post button. Anyway, I'm truly sorry to hear about your loss. You're right, these things are tough. Warm wishes to you and your family, Kim   Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Posted on Monday, March 18, 2002 - 02:36 pm:    After spending a week in Dallas; I couldn't believe how much I missed. "think about the Kittens" LMAO! Paul   KJ Posted on Monday, March 18, 2002 - 07:09 pm:    Hey Kim, Thanks for the kind words, but no worries about anything you posted. You're right, it's tough seeing them go down hill, but we just do the best we can. As with everything good in life, we have to be happy with what we have for as long as it lasts. Awwwwwwww, now everyone go out and hug your Rover! Karen