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Jack Quinlan (Jsq)
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 04:40 pm: | 
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Freud would have a field day with this. I ACTUALLY had a dream about mary from $G. It all revolved around my quest to actually get the bumper I purchased from them. In my dream I went on a middle-earth type journey to this massive office building and $G was on the billionth or so floor and when I got there I couldn't find Mary Chad. I asked around for her and she was there but she denied her identity. When I finally discovered it was her she said "your bumper's not ready, I'll call you".
Oh those words which haunt my waking hours as well. I've really tried to give $G a chance. I figured that not everyone has a bad experience and I thought maybe it was just trendy to badmouth them because their product wasn't new and exciting enough for the fad-crazed dwebbers. I live in California and they are close by and I wanted a slim style bumper so why not? why not indeed.
Let me start by saying that I have never ever ever been called by $G. Even when I was shopping for bumpers they didn't return my msgs. That should have told me something. I finally get them and order up my bumper and some diff guards and they happily take my deposit. They do try to change the price from my quote but I mention it and they quite willingly change it back. I'm planning on having them install it- no problem. Six week wait. Oh well. A few weeks go by. I call to see how they are and because I miss talking to them. My bumper is going to be ready ahead of schedule! But they cannot install it till a few eons later (something about a project for Toyota, ahem) That's all good, I'll just do it myself. When will it be ready did you say? Next week, it's just gone out to be powder coated? Ok. The week arrives. Call to mary: "How's my bumper? Ready?" Hmmmmm.... let me call you back. I wait.
and wait.
and wait.
and wait.
No call. So I call. Hi, me again, sorry to BOTHER you, how's my bumper. "Let me call you back" Ahhhh this seems eerily familiar.
more of the same waiting. no phone ringing noises. I call again. "hold on a second." an enternity passes. "it needs to go to powder coating, end of next week it will be ready"
AAAAARRRRGGGHHHH.
fine.
This thurs is about the last day they will be open for a while. I call today. "I'm set for thurs. yeah?" "hold on."....."the bumpers were all made wrong and they need to be made over. should be ready jan.6 or thereabouts"
I just want my bumper. I don't want a footrub or a christmas card. Just my bumper. Every time I call them I feel like I get blown off. They seem to make me promises without having any idea who I am or what I ordered. I'm still willing to wait till the 6th. I really want one of their bumpers and that would be about the original time it should have been done had they not claimed otherwise. I just don't like being jerked around. This kind of stuff is like promising a little kid a train set for his birthday and giving it to him a month afterwards. It makes me anxious and gives me bad dreams. Why can't they just call me once of their own volition? I don't have anything against Mary personaly or even $G as a company. I just want my bumper. Is that so ridiculous.
Now they'll probably read this and build it out of corrugated tin just to spite me.
I noticed there web page states they are looking to hire someone for phone sales. go figure.
If I didn't have to have it shipped (bad luck with that sort of thing) I'd buy one from John. If they were actually in production I'd think about kyle. I don't want a big low boxy bumper with a fairlead-first set up so that leaves me with $G. They have the bumper I like best anyways, so did I really make the wrong choice?
Any breathing exercises or eastern religions that have worked for those who have suffered the mental oppression of $G customer service?
thanks for letting me vent.
happy trails. |
hehe
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 04:58 pm: |
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LOL
WE TOLD YA SO! |
Al Oliveira (Offroaddisco)
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 05:05 pm: |
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http://www.rovertym.com |
Rans (Rans)
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 05:12 pm: |
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I gotta tell ya, get your money back from $G and go with Rovertym! You won't be sorry! |
Alex Schubow (Alex)
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 05:20 pm: |
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I must have been lucky, every time I have dealt with SG I have had a good experience, including returned calls, items shipped promptly, arriving undamaged with all the hardware, etc.
Obviously, YMMV... |
Will Roeder (Will_Roeder)
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 05:24 pm: |
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I, too, have had good experiences with SG.
Seems like sometimes they are very easy to work with, and friendly, and other times they are just a PITA.
FWIW....a funny story about SG...somethign very uncharacteristic of them (from what i have heard from others experiences)
a few years ago, a buddy of mine ordered some SG sliders for his D2. He gets the sliders, opens the box, and realizes a SG front bumper/skid plate is also in there. so my friend calls them up, offers to either pay for it or ship it back, and they say dont worry about it, and tell him to keep the bumper....
ive always thought that was interesting...maybe it depends who u talk to when you call??? ask to speak to Greg next time you call |
Mark Albrecht (Markalbrecht)
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 06:15 pm: |
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If you're in So.Cal., go there. It's much harder to reject someone in person (although you've already been told no until 1/6/03).
So ... how "all wrong" are those bumpers? Do I smell a discount for slightly imperfect bumpers? Or maybe there will be an opening at SG in manufacturing. |
Kyle
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 07:03 pm: |
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Jack , I suggest Emailing Ho and Matt Milbrandt , it should make you feel better about bumper delivery.. 
Kyle |
Henry Enriquez (Discoinla)
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 07:08 pm: |
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Um..here's a stupid newbie question: What is SG? |
marc olivares (Pugs)
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 07:22 pm: |
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jack ,
had the same problem!!!!first 3 weeks out , then 6, then 8, it's a good thing that my wife wears the pants in my family. she finally called because i kept belly aching, show'd up a week later w/ a banding strap scratch across the side. next time i'll make my own!!!
marc |
Mike Holmes (Myktoolbox)
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 07:22 pm: |
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"What is SG? "
1. A really kick ass Gibson guitar.
2. Safari Gard, a not so kick ass Rover vendor. |
Chris von Czoernig (Chrisvonc)
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 08:50 pm: |
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They just screwed me over with that same song and dance on a drive shaft. After a month and a half of being told again and again that it supposidly shipped, I cancelled the order and went to Great Basin Rovers which is where I should have gone in the first place.
Your story is not a new one. We hear that tune time after time after time here. While I never have had an issue with the level of service I have gotten from Mary before, I dont like to say it, but I guess my time was due to get the standard practice burn from them.
Chris von C. |
Rob Davison (Pokerob)
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 09:41 pm: |
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kyle i'll be down to pick that up for matt in a jiffy
rd |
Kim S (Roverine)
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 11:37 pm: |
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Well, you could just drive over there ... (your dream!  ) It's very easy to get there, and to help your blood pressure, go by way of Ortega Hwy. (depending on where you live).
Jack, I don't know ... I guess I was just lucky (??  ) when I ordered diff guards and sliders from them. I drove over there and picked them up. They even welded on my diff guards for me (sorry, Jack, I think I'm just making this worse ...) My take is:
A) It's "the holidays' for them.
B) It's "the holidays", and they have a bigger fish (i.e. some corporate dream) to fry on top of that.
C) It's "the holidays" and they are in some sort of deep dookey.
D) All of the above?
For my bumper, I just drove over to John & Ho's (Expedition Exchange). In my case, for the bumper, I need excellent customer service. Additionally, an ARB suits me (big emphasis on ME, I know it may not be what you had envisioned) just fine. ( ... but I think I messed it up just a very small hair. Oh man, John & Greg better not read this - I'll figure it out). Okay, I know I haven't helped you. Hope I've at least lent some moral support? Good luck,
Kim |
muskyman
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 11:53 pm: |
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looks like someone just got your bumper in the other thread? |
KJ
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 11:56 pm: |
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Jack,
Clearly Mary represents a cigar. Smoke her.
Dr. Karen Freud |
Jack Quinlan (Jsq)
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 12:24 am: |
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Thanks for being a shoulder to cry on guys.
It sounds like I never should have kept calling them, rather I should have just shown up at their door with a smile and a sleeping bag. Maybe they just make so few bumpers that they blow everyone off and only give them to people when they absolutely can't get rid of them anymore.
maybe they'll give me some free recovery d-rings or something. riiiiiight...
All I know is this, if Mary Chad wants to show up in any more of my dreams, she better start looking exactly like Gwyneth Paltrow! |
Kim S (Roverine)
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 12:29 am: |
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LOL!! KJ, (er, I mean Doctor KJ, LOL) you never cease to amaze me
Muskeyman, good point, ... check it out ...
Kim |
Kim S (Roverine)
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 12:38 am: |
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Oh dang, sorry Jack ... yeah, I don't think Gweneth Paltrow will show, but hey, you can dream right? Just get in the 'Yule Tide Spirit', and go "caroling" over there ... |
BillybobThornton
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 01:17 am: |
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Peeps.
Similar situation as Jack....only heres the thing: I ordered it, and was told a date....then that date was put off. Then it was being powdercoated. Then...oops...our cutter wasnt working right..Now, it is off again, to the week of Jan 6th. MY question is: am I getting a messed up bumper??? If it wasnt manufactured right, and they surely arent going to discard the materials and just start over, are they? So am I (or are we) getting inadequate material bumpers?
Dont misunderstand me....I dont have high expectations for most dealers, let alone accesory vendors in this business (although I will say that Trek and EE both pleasantly surprised me). All I truly expect is some communication on what my 1400 dollar investment is doing while I wait for it to show up. If it is late, call and tell me. I will do my best to understand. If it is messed up and being re-fabbed, let me know and I will TRY (I swear I will TRY) to understand. But dont just EXPECT me to know....dont just go about your merry way and think that I am going to know what the deal is. I just need the communication....oh geez...now I sound like a chick. |
GregH
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hehe-Jack, it ain't a big office building but a trailer at the end of a dirt road...LOL!! (at least it used to be) Actually they seem like nice people. I stopped by a couple of years ago and mentioned to lady in the trailer that for the prices they charge she should get a better trailer and she laughed too.
Anyway, I just ordered some stuff from RTE... Later this week I'm going to try to get by EE to look at that Equal tire stuff... |
Al Oliveira (Offroaddisco)
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 01:33 am: |
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Even some of the good bumpers from $G I've seen were defective. And all of the ones I have seen have taken some creativity to get them to fit. Now I'm sure there are some that bolt right up but I just haven't seen one myself. From what I hear the reason for it is the "poor Land Rover tolerances." But I don't buy it since I know that LR tolerances are not going to get off by 1/4 - 1/2" and the workshop manual gives specs to the fraction of a mm for body measurements. They may make nice looking stuff but that doesn't always make it a nice product. |
KJ
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 01:41 am: |
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BillyBobT,
Sounds like you just need someone to hold you.....
Karen |
Jack Quinlan (Jsq)
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 01:56 am: |
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BBT,
We need a support group.
I feel so alone in this scary aftermarket world.
Mary is a money-taker and a heartbreaker and she knows just how to toy with the childish emotions of land rover men everywhere.
Seriously though, if you're in SoCal maybe we should make a trip there together and demand to know EXACTLY what the hell is going on and what we will be getting and maybe even WHEN. |
Mike Rupp (Mike_Rupp)
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 09:38 am: |
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I've got to second what Al said regarding $G. My bumper was a pain in the ass to install. The winch tray was not done well: measurements were off for the MM winch. Their response: "we test- fit a MM winch in there to make sure it would fit." Yeah right!
Another issue was the skid plate not lining up properly.
When my brother was looking for a bumper, I told him to contact John @ Rovertym. He ended up buying the slimline bumper with the bar also to hold a MM winch. The differences are readily apparent. The Rovertym bumper is designed and constructed much better than the $G. John's bumper is fully boxed, so I'm sure it will have much better rigidity than the $G. The winch tray |
Paul T. Schram (Paulschram)
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 10:12 am: |
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Now that I have made a purchase from John and Ho...
I got my ARB from Nathan Crabtree. It was delivered when it was supposed to, the price was great, yes, it did require a torch to mount, but that is probably me. It does hang down too low-
I might try to fix that if I can ever afford a winch. He wasn't able to provide a radiator to me without shipping damage, but I'll cut him some slack on that as nobody else could either.
All of a sudden, I don't feel so bad about my poorly placed comment on the Pirates board (hey, if Kyle can lurk there, I can post there:-) about wanting to see more pics of the woman (Mary?) driving their ($ari Gard's) tube 90.
Paul |
Kim S (Roverine)
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 01:31 pm: |
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I don't think Mary drives that D90. At least not in that competitive rock crawling competition deal. It is another woman.
Kim |
Jack Quinlan (Jsq)
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 01:50 pm: |
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alright. I'm about to fold and cut my losses.
I couldn't get a hold of John right now, but does anyone know what his current wait is on the d1 slim line with full bull bar? I figure even if it's a long wait, I'm guaranteed to get it at some point (I've done business with him before) and his prices are now cheaper for me. I'm always wary of trendiness on this sort of thing but it seems like his bumper may be stronger to boot.
thoughts?
anyone gotten one lately? what was the wait/service like? Is the install just as easy?
thanks again for your help. |
KJ
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 03:14 pm: |
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Jack, while we wait for an answer, tell us about your childhood.......
Karen ;) |
Jack Quinlan (Jsq)
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 03:17 pm: |
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IT'S DONE!!!
wasn't that fast?
Got a hold of John for an estimate on time and cost and immediately called $G to cancel my order.
Mary couldn't have sounded more pleased. I told her I was sorry but blah blah blah and she seemed delighted. One less person to call her I guess. I told her I was coming up today for my diff guards and she insisted that she ship them for free instead. I was a little wary, but gave in. She ASSURED me they would go out today. Something about "fool me once..." Oh well, we'll see. If they don't show up tomorrow I'll be there when they open on monday.
I'll have to wait longer for my RTE bumper but only compared to what $G was telling me (who knows when I would have gotten it, if at all). And even with shipping my RTE bumper will be cheaper, holds the winch I wanted to get, comes with the recovery points I want, etc. etc. etc.
I gotta wonder though what sort of stats $G has on order retention. Seems like about a third of their orders get cancelled. Not that they care.
Well I'm off to return the winch I bought and get a different one.
what a saga. |
Jack Quinlan (Jsq)
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 03:31 pm: |
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Karen,
Very well, where do I begin? My father was a relentlessly self-improving boulangerie owner from Belgium with low grade narcolepsy and a penchant for buggery. My mother was a fifteen year old French prostitute named Chloe with webbed feet. My father would womanize, he would drink, he would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Some times he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy, the sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. My childhood was typical, summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When I was insolent I was placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds, pretty standard really. At the age of 12 I received my first scribe. At the age of fourteen, a Zoroastrian woman named Vilma ritualistically shaved my testicles. There really is nothing like a shorn scrotum, it's breathtaking, I suggest you try it. |
Andrew Clarke (Aclarke)
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 11:22 pm: |
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LOL Jack.
Did you memorize that or just pop in the DVD?
WONDERFUL!!! |
KJ
| | Posted on Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 12:11 am: |
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I buy it all except the boulangerie part. Yeah, RIGHT!
Karen |
Eric
| | Posted on Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 12:32 am: |
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I was considering the $G bumper as well, but now I think I will look at the rovertyme bumper. Are they of similiar design? It is hard to tell from the pics. How do the rock sliders compare? I kind of like the look of the $G, they have kind of a stock look.
Eric |
Alex Schubow (Alex)
| | Posted on Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 08:30 am: |
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You can have a set of rovertym sliders built without the nerf bars. They are substantially stronger than SG.
http://www.probeelectronics.com/lrx/attica/images/Attica%20september%202002%20011.jpg |
Alex Schubow (Alex)
| | Posted on Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 08:34 am: |
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Alex Schubow (Alex)
| | Posted on Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 08:37 am: |
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ugh. that never works for me |
Alex Schubow (Alex)
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Brian (Rover_Wannabe)
| | Posted on Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 09:51 am: |
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Interesting that $G hasn't made any mention on here about what is going on. No open apologies, no explanation, etc. You would think that a message board of this size would get the attention of that aftermarket vendor, but, well duh of course it wouldn't, since it seems their head is so far up their ass the only day light they see is from their mouth. I am glad for this thread. You see as I just purchased my first Land Rover (1995 Disco) I am looking to upgrade just abour everything on it. You can be sure that I will not be calling Sucky Guard for any of my parts. I will make them out of raw metal, and forge them with quarter inch pebbles before I will order from them. I will however probably call them now once in a while to talk to this Mary chick and harass her. You know, order stuff, then cancel it, then maybe order again in a week, cancel the order again, then call 2 weeks later and ask why I don't have it yet, you know, just to make her run around the office. Hopefully this will make her get enough oxygen to her brain that she will realize that all her co-workers at Sucky Guard come to work on the retard rocket. I mean really, how hard is it to screw up a production run of bumpers if you use a jig to put them together (oh that's right, they still think a jig is a dance that they do WHILE making all of their mistakes).
Just me $.02 |
Eric
| | Posted on Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 08:03 pm: |
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Is That a Rovertyme Bumper as well on that rig? |
Will Roeder (Will_Roeder)
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No, thats a Safari Gard. |
Eric
| | Posted on Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 08:20 pm: |
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Thanks |
Jack Quinlan (Jsq)
| | Posted on Friday, December 20, 2002 - 12:46 pm: |
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well, just wanted to keep you all appraised of the situation. I DID, in fact, get my diff guards yesterday as promised. Mary FedExed them and they were there right away. Too bad they couldn't have done the same with my bumper. However, while my diff guards look servicable and strong, they are nowhere near the level of craftsmanship depicted on the web site. The welds are on the outside rather than in and have not been smoothed at all. Kinda looks like toothpaste. Regardless, the powder coat is good and they were a GREAT deal (two for one).
Now I just continue to wait, but I do so with some confidence that I will get my RTE as promised on schedule. Unfourtunately we've gotten some snow in California and my Rover friends and I would love to go play, but my winch doesn't do us much good sitting in the garage unattached so we'll have to wait till late jan. Better head to the desert instead!
happy trails! |
Jack Quinlan (Jsq)
| | Posted on Friday, January 10, 2003 - 02:18 pm: |
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Here's a little update for those of you who lie awake at night wondering "Hmmmmm, how is jack getting along with his bumper dilemma?"
John has been great. He's even done a few little custom additions to the bumper for me. Just talked to him yesterday and he hopes to have the bumper at my door by the end of next week.
$orry Gard, however, has yet to refund my deposit on the bumper I cancelled. It will be interesting to see if I actually order, buy and receive a RTE before $G even gives me back my money. |
Alyssa Brown (Alyssa)
| | Posted on Friday, January 10, 2003 - 04:37 pm: |
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Getting your money back may never happen... they never gave us our money back when we ordered brake lines with a gift certificate. They needed the credit card for shipping, but charged the whole amount & would never credit it back. |
Dee
| | Posted on Friday, January 10, 2003 - 08:29 pm: |
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Call your CC company i know AMEX will credit it back to you, not sure about MC or Visa |
Jack Quinlan (Jsq)
| | Posted on Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 01:21 am: |
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Well, it's official, I got my RTE bumper before $G even gave me my money back. I'm going to call them one more time and then have VISA file a dispute.
My RTE bumper rocks the party. It is incredibly well made and I can't wait to try it out this weekend. Installation wasn't too bad and John was a pleasure.
This bumper was the last major modification of the steps I've been taking over the last three months and I'm pretty pleased with being "done" (if such a thing exists). It allowed me to mount the winch that's been sitting in the garage for a month and I got my second optima yellow top in last night. Today I walked back to my truck to find someone taking pictures of it! I had it all geared out in anticipation of this weekend (i.e. roof rack goodies on: second spare, grp briges, jerry cans, shovel and the like) and I had just waxed it so it was looking good enough to get this guy to pull over and start snapping away. It was very gratifying to say the least.
so I guess this saga has a happy ending after all.
happy trails. |
Kim S (Roverine)
| | Posted on Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 02:12 am: |
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"I will however probably call them now once in a while to talk to this Mary chick and harass her. You know, order stuff, then cancel it, then maybe order again in a week, cancel the order again, then call 2 weeks later and ask why I don't have it yet, you know, just to make her run around the office. Hopefully this will make her get enough oxygen to her brain that she will realize that all her co-workers at Sucky Guard come to work on the retard rocket."
HEY, HEy, hey now, Brian (rover wannabe). Leave Mary out of this. No, I am not her best friend - I've dealt with $G guard before. What you are saying is not only irresponsible, but completely ineffective. The woman is just trying to make a living, and doing her job as she is told. I heard some whining about jobs here recently in a general thread here.
Jack, glad you have a happy ending. Now, Go drive that sucka ....
Kim |
Kim S (Roverine)
| | Posted on Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 02:34 am: |
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errr, P.S. ... Brian, (all) sorry the LATE comment. I've been out and about (so to speak). Just not tied to the computer, in this case.
Kim |
Rob Davison (Pokerob)
| | Posted on Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 09:55 am: |
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but kim,, you are forgetting a lesson of life. shit flows downhill.
and mary is at the bottom. i'd harrass everyone until i got my money back. squeeky wheel gets the oil.
BTW i 've been a nightmare customer before. it does work.
rd |
Kim S (Roverine)
| | Posted on Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 02:06 pm: |
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yeah i know what you mean Rob, true. It is the squeaky wheel gets the oil, and if you're not assertive (read downright aggressive in some instances), you'll get crapped on. It just sounded like Brian was saying he was going to call and harrass them just for the sake of harrassing them (not as a real customer). BTW, Brian, I basically do agree with your take on the customer service issues. Guess I was just feeling a little sorry for the woman. Maybe I'm too much of a softie at times - Afterall, she can choose to stay or leave.
Kim |
sucks 2 b u
| | Posted on Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 09:34 pm: |
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the fact remains that SG has the most attractive bumper on the market. Hands down. ( yes I know it sucks when a company is so busy they don't need your business) |
Kim S (Roverine)
| | Posted on Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 10:14 pm: |
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Yes, "sucks", I was thinking the same thing; They really don't give a shit. If they needed the business they would I guess. |
Robbie (Robbie)
| | Posted on Friday, January 24, 2003 - 09:35 am: |
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i guess "most attractive" is in the eye of the beholder, cause I really like this one
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Robbie (Robbie)
| | Posted on Friday, January 24, 2003 - 09:38 am: |
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Robbie (Robbie)
| | Posted on Friday, January 24, 2003 - 09:41 am: |
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Blue (Bluegill)
| | Posted on Friday, January 24, 2003 - 10:17 am: |
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nice bumper Robbie...beats the $orry Guard by a mile |
NOT BLIND
| | Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 09:53 am: |
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YEAH THAT LOOKS ALMOST AS SHITTY AS THE FACTORY BRUSHBAR WITHOUT A WINCH MOUNT! LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING KYLE WOULD BUILD |
Jess Alvarez (Jester)
| | Posted on Friday, January 31, 2003 - 05:59 pm: |
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Hmmmm.
I got my Safari Gard bumper late too. I ordered it at the same time Jack did, but heres the thing: I asked Mary if she would send me a free set of the D-Rings for the trouble, and SHE DID!!! 2 very stout cad plated D rings showed up on my doorstep via Fedex today.
Sweeet asssss!
Bumper went on smooth as ever. I didnt have any of the tolerancing problems that others have described. All in all, I am very very happy with it.
I would probably do business with them again despite the delays and such.
Jess |
Jess Alvarez (Jester)
| | Posted on Friday, January 31, 2003 - 06:05 pm: |
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You know, incidentally, in case anyone cares, these D rings came in a box from a manufacturer.
Here is the information. Perhaps you guys could try to order them cheaper than SG sells them...you know, cut out the middle man...
ACTEK MFG @ ENG INC.
17181 GALE AVE, UNIT C
CITY OF INDUSTRY, CA 91745
PHONE 800-752-7229, OR 626-581-3424
FAX 626-581-3423
Just a thought.
Jess |
Jess Alvarez (Jester)
| | Posted on Friday, January 31, 2003 - 06:40 pm: |
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Oh yeah...
the part number is 46018C
Jess |
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