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lance
Posted on Friday, December 27, 2002 - 03:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Somebody asked if they could make the dusy in the winter heres pics of the con a couple of weekands back. scroll down the thread there are pics.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=103411
 

Jack Quinlan (Jsq)
Posted on Friday, December 27, 2002 - 07:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

well, that's pretty neat, but that's about the most redneck bbs i've ever encountered and that's saying a lot considering it's in the arena of online 4wheel discussion. I thought this was sort of a rough and tumble crowd, particularly for landy owners, but those guys are a different breed.

Guess I will have to take on the Dusy Ershim in the snow. Of course, apparently I should have been towing my Disco everywhere I went, silly me.
 

Curtis N (Curtis)
Posted on Friday, December 27, 2002 - 11:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Wow - that was 20 minutes I will never get back. It was pretty impressive to see how much snow they moved around, but who goves a crap? I cannot think of anything more boring off road than freezing my ass off while pushing snow around. Then again - thats just me.

Curtis
 

Shane
Posted on Saturday, December 28, 2002 - 07:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

What Curtis, you saying you don't waste 45 minutes a day waiting in line at Starbucks?
 

lew
Posted on Saturday, December 28, 2002 - 10:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Rather be a redneck then a bolt on fag
 

Curtis N (Curtis)
Posted on Sunday, December 29, 2002 - 01:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Shane & Lew,

No, I have an excellent pump espresso maker. The coffee is great, but only if my wife makes it. I am too lazy so I only make Folgers instant if I have the time. I think that I have only had Starbucks in airports.

I guess if I had to choose, I would be a redneck over a "bolt on fag". I am not 100% sure if I know what the latter is, but it just does not sound like me.

Happy Holidays,

Curtis
 

D90Jim
Posted on Wednesday, January 01, 2003 - 04:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post


Quote:

well, that's pretty neat, but that's about the most redneck bbs i've ever encountered and that's saying a lot considering it's in the arena of online 4wheel discussion. I thought this was sort of a rough and tumble crowd, particularly for landy owners, but those guys are a different breed.

Guess I will have to take on the Dusy Ershim in the snow. Of course, apparently I should have been towing my Disco everywhere I went, silly me.




No, just actually wheel.

I'd love to see the percentages of guys here with built discos who actually wheel.

Bet ya that anyone on POR with a built rig actually wheels it. Rednex or not.

I personally don't dig POR, but man some of the pansy ass sh*t I read here makes me ill.

I have friend who post wheeling get togethers here all the time and there are never any takers. And by looking at the galleries, there are plenty of folks here who live in the area.

Damn Posers. Kyle may come off as a prick here at times, but by god, at least he wheels.
 

Randolph McNally
Posted on Wednesday, January 01, 2003 - 06:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Where are you from? Would your friend happen to be the one who is posting as Griffin and Macktuff?
 

Curtis N (Curtis)
Posted on Wednesday, January 01, 2003 - 10:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

D90Jim,

"I'd love to see the percentages of guys here with built discos who actually wheel."

I don't know Jim. Depends on how you define "built". You may be on to somthing though. I was going to slam you on this comment, but once I gave it some thought...:)

"I personally don't dig POR, but man some of the pansy ass sh*t I read here makes me ill."

Well, once again, I was going to slam you, but some of the stuff I read here makes me ill as well :)

However, this site was not built for me, or you, or any specific wheeling group or purpose. It was built for Disco owners. Kinda like if you go to a general Jeep, Toy, or whatever site you will likely run accross a bunch of stuff you don't like. Take what you like and move on. All in all I think it is a load of fun. I just limit my readings to four or five posts a day.

Curtis
 

Carter Simcoe (Carter)
Posted on Wednesday, January 01, 2003 - 11:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

How do you know how many people here wheel and how many don't?? It seems to me that most do.
 

Clif Ashley (Cta586)
Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 12:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

And really, what is wheeling?
 

Carter Simcoe (Carter)
Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 12:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Oh and if you want to call everyone poseurs at least learn how to spell it.
 

Curtis N (Curtis)
Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 12:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Carter - The only way he can judge is from the gallery. IMHO if that is his criteria then most don't "wheel" As far as the spelling, he is still correct. Both of the terms poser and poseur would apply. Poseur is probably more accurate though and gets to the meaning of the word faster.

Clif - "wheeling" is up to the eye of the beholder. It is like saying "running". A person who is not in very good shape cannot run like a true athlete. I will let you infer translation from here.

Curtis
 

Jack Quinlan (Jsq)
Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 01:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I'll have to second the motion to remind our shitkicking friend that this is a Land Rover Discovery forum. It's not, www.ionlydothehardesttrailswithmydana60sandyoucansuckityouboltonfags.com, but rather just geared towards a specific vehicle. Check out a general Land Cruiser page. There are plenty of people just asking how to fix their air conditioning on their stock vehicle and getting help. In fact, I'd have to say that for a general topic bbs like this, an unusually high percentage of the particpants do "wheel" and most of the talk is directed towards offroad modifications. Now if this was a dedicated site for harcore offroading / porno watching / beer can crushing, I'd expect 100% participation in the real deal. As you might have noticed, I did acknowledge that I appreciated what those guys had done, and I was, in fact, the person who proposed the thought of the Dusy in the winter, so I was genuinely interested. However, I read THIS board and I prefer it the way it is. I like the content, I like the expertise and I like the fact that not everyone has a tag line about suck this or that. I also pointed out that I didn't care for the fact that those guys tow their rigs. This is a Rover page. Rovers are predisposed to expedition configurations. Jeeps and FJ45s are not. To each his own. On this board most people set up their Land Rovers to drive somwhere cool try some neat stuff and be able to drive back. With one vehicle. Very few would want to tow their Landy, no matter what it was capable of. I wouldn't mind attempting a winter route, but not if it meant that my vehicle operated on the same basis as a quad. Whatismore, that's a Land Rover opinion so I'm posting it on a Landy board. I wouldn't be so insolent as to wander into POR and tell them how to write or drive, but I will happily do it here.
 

D90Jim
Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 10:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Guys, I was merely venting about someone slamming POR as being ultra redneck.
I know there are guys here who wheel, but man, saying POR is just rednecks is rediculous. Look at the fabrication that goes into many of those rigs.

There are plenty of web wheelers on both sites, but at the core of POR is excactly that- the hard core.

Sorry to cause such a fuss, but it's quite irkesome at times.

Jimmy
 

Eric N (Grnrvr)
Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 10:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I don't think that POR comes off as a redneck filled site. I think that site has a huge amount of good information on it. What's everyone have against rednecks anyways? What is your definition of a redneck? There might be more "rednecks" here then on POR. You can take people out of the trailer park but, you can't always take the trailer park out of the people.
 

Carter Simcoe (Carter)
Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 12:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Curtis, I still think that the majority of the galleries show trucks off pavement, yeah yeah once again "what is the definition of wheeling......." As for "poseur" or "poser" the later refers to posing in the literal since such as posing for a picture while the word "Poseur" refers to someone trying to be something they aren't.
 

John Lee
Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 01:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

"As for 'poseur' or 'poser' the later refers to posing in the literal since such as posing for a picture while the word 'Poseur' refers to someone trying to be something they aren't."

Hmmm, silly me. And all this time I thought the two words were synonymous and were just two different ways of spelling the same word, e.g., "dueling" or "duelling".
 

Carter Simcoe (Carter)
Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 02:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Look it up in the dictionary, 'poser' means "one who poses" and of course there are TONS of definitions for the word 'pose'. The word 'poseur' is simply defined as "someone who pretends to be something they aren't". If they were the same words as is the case with ‘dueling’ and ‘duelling’ both words would not be given separate definitions, one of them would simply be listed as an alternate spelling. Part of using the English language correctly is knowing what the best word to use is when there are many that will do, I'm not claiming to be an expert but that is fact. 'Poser' has a wide range of possible definitions while 'poseur' is quite specific and right along the lines of what Jim was trying to say, on top of that the closest definition of 'pose' that resembles the implications of the word 'poseur' is "an attitude deliberately assumed in order to impress others". Clearly the poseurs Jim speaks of have acquired more than an attitude, they have bought winches, lift kits, bumpers, tires and lord knows what else. :)
 

Blue (Bluegill)
Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 02:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

hmmmmm....I think we need visual aids for poser & poseur
 

Carter Simcoe (Carter)
Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 02:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I'll put you in charge of making them Blue :)
 

Mike Rupp (Mike_Rupp)
Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 02:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Carter, I'm not sure what dictionary you're using, but here's the definition of poser from The New Shorter Oxford English Dictionary: "A person who poses; esp. = POSEUR."

My guess is that most Americans that use the spelling "poseur" are just trying to sound European, kind of like using colour, whilst, etc.
 

John Lee
Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 02:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Carter,

The only thing worse than a pedant is a pedant who doesn't what he's talking about. Stick to being a smart ass. At least that's something you know.

And I'd really like to see your purported dictionary that defines "poseur" as "someone who pretends to be something they aren't." Even a sixth grader knows that "someone" is singular and not plural. No dictionary would use the plural pronoun "they" with the singular noun "someone." This makes about as much sense as "Carter doesn't know what they is talking about and is talking out of their ass."
 

Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 02:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

From Random House's Webster's College Dictionary:

Webster's defns....


FWIW...

-L
 

Carter Simcoe (Carter)
Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 03:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Your right John I was typing fast and misquoted it, it is "A person" not someone -I am using Webster's

But you still haven't answered the question as to why the words get two seperate and different definitions if they are the same word.

BTW, you are one to talk about being a smart-ass.
 

John Lee
Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 03:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Carter,

Even if it is "a person who pretends to be something they aren't" and not "someone who pretends to be something they aren't", what is the difference? "A person" is still singular, just like "someone". That may be a shock to someone as intelligent and learned as yourself, but it is true.

Separate and different defnitions? Well, "poseur" and "poser" receive separate definitions because they are two different words.

As for your contention that the definitions of the two words are different, are they? You say you're using Websters. Merriam-Webster online defines "poseur" as "a person who pretends to be what he or she is not". The same dictionary defines "poser" as "a person who poses". "Pose" is defined in the same dictionary as "to affect an attitude or character usually to deceive or impress."

Just because two words are spelled differently does not mean they have different meanings. I cited "dueling" and "duelling" before. Both are correct ways of spelling the same word. The same holds true for "gray" and "grey", "behavior" and "behavior", "check" and "cheque", etc. I think Mike's theory about people using "poseur" instead of "poser" because they are trying to sound Euro or educated is probably the most correct. However, both spellings are correct.

Incidentally, it is "you're right" and not "your right". Also, your "seperate and different definitions...." is also incorrect. None of this really matters on this board, but if you're going to be correcting people's spelling and make spelling an issue, then you should at least spell correctly yourself. Again, the only thing worse than a pedant is a pedant who doesn't know what he's talking about.

Shit, while I'm at it, I might as well point out your fallacious thinking. You said:

"...'poseur' is 'an attitude deliberately assumed in order to impress others'. Clearly the poseurs Jim speaks of have acquired more than an attitude, they have bought winches, lift kits, bumpers, tires and lord knows what else."

So in your mind, if people fit a winch, taller springs, bumpers, tires, etc. to their trucks, then they are not poseurs? Think about that.
 

Blue (Bluegill)
Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 03:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

poser:
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poseur:
2,S
 

Dave M.
Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 04:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

{cough} um.. back to the subject...

I think that the gist of it is that POR and Discoweb are 2 very different sites.

POR is really geared to the more "hardcore" off-roader, the person who really hammers their truck in the boonies and very often, has a purpose built trail rig.

Dweb is a marquee board for ALL owners of a specific brand and make. Owners run the gamut from street rigs to vehicles that spend a week on the Dusty.

There will be some overlap, and there is plenty of room for each as they serve completely different functions.
 

Axel Haakonsen (Axel)
Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 04:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Ok, now that we have beaten poser/poseur to death, I'd like Carter and John to chew on this one:

Overbuljongterningpakkmesterassistent

Yes, it is a real word, and it is correctly spelled.... :)
 

Peter Matusov (Pmatusov)
Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 04:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

i sincerely envy the guys who did that snow run. no feeling like deep snow crunching under the tires - i've got but a bit of it before i shredded one of my tires towing a helpless XJ yesterday.

peter
 

Carter Simcoe (Carter)
Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 04:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

John I don't really give a shit you can keep spelling stuff however you want, yes you could still be technically correct by saying 'poser' I am simply saying 'poseur' would be the best version to use. Actually I don't give a shit, I only said that as a low blow to someone who was talking shit about dweb and furthermore someone w/ a doctorate in English just agreed with me that 'poseur' would be the best spelling to use in this instance, so I think I will listen to her. You can keep correcting my spelling and grammar all you want but you sure weren't doing much of that when I was ordering shocks from you a few months back. Actually I was going to order some Equal sometime when I get back in town but I think I will see if I can find someplace else that carries it now, Ho seems like a nice guy but you come across as a prick.

BTW I was in no way saying that people who fit taller springs, bumpers and winches to their trucks are not poseurs, I was actually saying that they can be poseurs so you should use the word that implies they could have assumed more than an attitude in their efforts to impress others and come across as something they aren't.
 

Kyle
Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 04:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hell , I am a poser , I just do it in the most kick ass places I can find... :)

Kyle
 

Carter Simcoe (Carter)
Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 05:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Yes, you definitly do that.
 

Peter Matusov (Pmatusov)
Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 05:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

nicer and gentler Kyle :)
 

John Lee
Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 05:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Carter,

For someone who claims he doesn't give a shit, you sure seem to be awfully pissed off.

Your purported "low blow" to D90Jim was nothing fo the sort. If it hurt anyone, it hurt you. It showed that you're just a moron who's trying to act educated. Again, stick with what you know. It boggles the mind that someone who doesn't know the difference between "later" and "latter" (which are in fact two different words with different meanings) can make such a fuss about the insignificant difference between "poseur" and "poser."

And BTW, you're still wrong and so is this doctor in English that you purportedly consulted. Between "poser" and "poseur", there is no "best version to use". Between two things, there can be a "better" but there cannot be a "best." "Best" is properly used only when comparing three or more items. If this so-called doctor agreed with you on this, she's as much of a moron as you are. Again, no big deal. But you're the one who's putting spelling and grammar at issue.

Oh boo hoo, I lost you as a customer. Big deal. Do you really think that if I wanted to keep you as a customer, that I would expose your stupidity for everyone to see? Unlike you, I really can claim that I don't give a shit.

"BTW I was in no way saying that people who fit taller springs, bumpers and winches to their trucks are not poseurs, I was actually saying that they can be poseurs so you should use the word that implies they could have assumed more than an attitude in their efforts to impress others and come across as something they aren't."

I don't know what the hell this says. It makes about as much as sense as your other posts, i.e., no sense at all.

Oh, one more grammatical correction. You seem to be fond of the words "implies" and "implication." I guess "implication" is a big, fancy word and you seem to like to use. However, you might try using it correctly.
 

Rob Davison (Pokerob)
Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 05:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

i think the german spelling of fire insurance company might be longer... i need to find it. :)


Feuerversicherungsgesellschaft
Overbuljongterningpakkmesterassistent

damn, guess not

rd
 

herman
Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 05:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

all i can think about is oil, euro men in thongs, peek aboo panties, and sliding around on my rangies leather while at the beach....... am i considered a bolt on fag?
 

Carter Simcoe (Carter)
Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 05:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

"Oh boo hoo, I lost you as a customer. Big deal. Do you really think that if I wanted to keep you as a customer, that I would expose your stupidity for everyone to see? Unlike you, I really can claim that I don't give a shit."

Just keep telling yourself that.
 

Rob Davison (Pokerob)
Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 05:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

we all know that the this results in john getting EE sales from spite. folks just want to prove mr lee wrong.
 

Carter Simcoe (Carter)
Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 05:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I'm sure the Land Rover accessory business is good but I doubt it is that good.

You seemed pretty happy when I called you last time. As I recall I told you I wanted to buy some shocks and you said "Oh great" pretty enthusiastically and then started scrambling for something to write with.
 

John Lee
Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 05:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Well, it isn't the longest, but it's my favorite German long word:

Präzisionsscharfschützengewehr

http://www.hecklerkoch-usa.com/pages/military/sa_psg1.html
 

Carter Simcoe (Carter)
Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 05:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Nah Rob, I don't think I'm going to be calling up EE for anything anytime soon, but unfortunatly only two other places come up when you do a google search for "Equal tire balancer". Neither of them really list what they have but hopefully I can call them and get what I need, I'm probablly not going to put my 235/85s back on till the end of January anyway so I have time to look around.
 

John Lee
Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 05:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

OK, let's see where this has gone and where it seems to be going. D90Jim says most of the guys on this board are posers. Carter takes personal offense (probably because he a poseur himself) and accuses Jim of being a moron for spelling "poseur" incorrectly. I tell Carter that both "poser" and "poseur" are correct. Carter disagrees and cites to Webster's. I cite Webster's and show Carter that he's wrong. Carter believes he's lost the argument (of course he will never admit this), and so he falls back on the moron's classic last line of defense: "I don't give a shit."

Carter knows this is a chicken-shit defense and not very credible given the fact that he's gone to the time and trouble to look through his dictionary and confer with a doctor in English, and so he's got to add flavor to the pot by saying I'm a prick for correcting his spelling and his grammar (even though he's the one who made them issues in the first place) and I'm such a prick he's never going to buy from EE again. I say "oh well". Carter comes back with "John, you're so full of shit. You were nice and courteous to me on the phone when I ordered my OME shocks from you. You're also a liar because you really do want me as a customer."

Carter, think about it. I know it's hard for that little brain of yours, but think about it hard. Sure, I want to sell you stuff and take your money. Why wouldn't I? But if I'm publicly calling you a moron, and I know damn well that is going to piss you off for the same reason that D90Jim's poseur comment pissed you off, do I really care if you decide not to buy from EE any longer?

Again, I realize it's hard for you but please think about it hard before you come back with some meaningless response that only makes you look even dumber than you look now.
 

Carter Simcoe (Carter)
Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 05:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

oh well, less money for you. I really feel bad for Ho as you seem to shine a bad light on the whole operation, and I know I'm not the only who feels that way. There sure are a lot more "I'm not doing business with EE because John is a dick" comments than "I'm not doing business with Discount Rovers because Nathan is a dick" comments that get said around here.
 

Rob Davison (Pokerob)
Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 05:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

carter, the only way to put john in his proper place is to buy the damn tire balancer... DO IT

besides it's good shit

rd
 

John Lee
Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 05:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Translation of Carter's last post: "Everyone, don't buy from EE. John is a dick. Buy your OME shocks from Discount Rovers."
 

Carter Simcoe (Carter)
Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 05:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Congratulations John you found the hidden message, good for you!!!!!!!!

Yeah Rob I'm gonna try some other places but I do want the stuff, those tall skinny things don't stay balanced for shit.
 

Ron L (Ronl)
Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 06:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Carter,

Just shut the fuck up already (Proper English- Let it go). John Bill me for the lost sale on his equal, in fact charge me double, I'll pay for the English Lesson.

Ron L
 

scott
Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 07:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

What's POR stand for???
I'm sure it's something obvious, but I'm missing it.
 

peter
Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 07:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Pirates Of the Rubicon
 

Curtis N (Curtis)
Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 11:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Carter,

Let us rewind: "Curtis, I still think that the majority of the galleries show trucks off pavement, yeah yeah once again "what is the definition of wheeling.......""

I think you pretty much covered what I am going to say in the second part of your statement. There is a lot of stuff I do in my rig off pavement that is not wheeling. Wheeling implies that a challenge is being taken and defeated. I do not consider driving off pavement a challenge in and of itself. You need to be in positions where body and human carnage are a real danger unless there is a display of driver skill. Otherwise you are just driving off road.

Secondly, I knocked you over your comment: "Oh and if you want to call everyone poseurs at least learn how to spell it."

Poser and poseur are interchangeable and mean the same thing. Your comment to Jim was over spelling - not definitions. How John missed this golden point tells me he is slacking or busy at work. If he was truly focused on this thread, he would have had a field day with this. My point was and is that Jim not only said what he meant, but spelled it correctly.

Another tip: do not ever quote the words of a person holding a doctorate in any field without giving them proper credit by giving thier name (comma) followed by thier degree. It is in poor taste and only tells those that know better that you really got the information from an upper-division English major who works in the student writing center of the college you attend.

I am such a troublemaker:)

Curtis
 

KJ
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 12:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

2 hel wit al thiz gramr stuf, i wan a bolt-on fag if that meens mi howse gits cleend mor beddr thenn thiz strate girl duz

kern :)
 

Ron
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 12:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

The flaming is so much better on POR. The best discoweb can muster is gramatical correction, pedantic legal briefs on the english language, and the occasional shuddup.

fawkers :)

Ron
 

Curtis N (Curtis)
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 12:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

kern,

I weel geev ewe a bold awn faig eef eye kin fine won. Ure awds ar betir tho eef ewe kin kleen ure howses uresef.

curse
 

Curtis N (Curtis)
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 12:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Ron,

I fawking agree, but the problem I see is that I see too fooking many other "poses" for FUCK than I can possibly digest in one sitting.

Curtis
 

Ron A
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 12:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

damn this is one of the funniest threads I've read in a long time... (LOL)

ronL I'm in for half. John send Carter his equal we've got him covered.

Carter thanks man, that was fucking funny.

ron a
 

Curtis N (Curtis)
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 01:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

there are way too many Rons around here. Any wauy ou guys can organize something like: Ron 1, Ron 2, Ron 3, etc...?
 

Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 08:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Poser and poseur are interchangeable and mean the same thing.

Curtis,
Scroll back up to the scanned dictionary definitions, and read them... they are not the same.


-L
 

Carter Simcoe (Carter)
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 09:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

So now you guys are raising money for my equal??? maybe I should start www.savecarterstires.com :)
 

John Cinquegrana (Johnc)
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 09:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

What's a bolt on fag and why bother with equal, I can get you guys a packet of some white shit for a lot less...one problem, If you get caught don't tell them I sold it to you.

John C.
#1 Moron and Degenerate
 

John Moore (Jmoore)
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 09:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

JohnC, but are you a Poser or Poseur?

Wonder if the guys on POR know they caused a fuss over here? Or if they would care?



-John
 

John Cinquegrana (Johnc)
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 09:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

John M, I'm a pisser...

Lots of snow up there? I was thinking of heading up to Sullivan County and do some trail scouting this weekend, you busy this Sunday?
 

John Cinquegrana (Johnc)
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 09:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

..
 

John Moore (Jmoore)
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 09:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Tons of snow, started this AM, we're supposed to get 10-16" by tomorrow! That's on top of about a 1" of ice we got New Years Day. It will be hard to find trails in this stuff. I would love to go wheelin' but going skiing on Sunday!

Have fun,
-John
 

Blue (Bluegill)
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 10:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

does fawk = fuck?
 

Kevin Howell
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 10:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

since my degree is in english, i find this one of the funniest threads i've ever read. of course, as most of us already know, the only thing that separates most doctorate wielding pedants (i just learned that word from this thread, and i plan to use it every chance i get) from the rest of us with mere baccalaureates and masters is time and money. i know many "less than skilled" english phd's. in fact, since most upper-level english degrees are literature-based, your best bet for a consultant on grammar or spelling is a freshman comp. instructor or a junior high teacher. but the fact of the matter is, most of us get on these boards as a break from having to double-check our spelling and grammar all the time, and we really couldn't give a shit about taking time to deal with annoyances such as capitalization. :) incidentally, this particular board does better than most. to wit, flip over to one of the espn college football boards sometime, which is, supposedly, a collection of college students and grads.
 

Blue (Bluegill)
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 10:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

but some people can't spell fuck right
 

John Lee
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Les,

"Scroll back up to the scanned dictionary definitions, and read them... they are not the same."

I saw your definitions. I fail to see how your dictionary's definition of "poseur" ("a person who assumes or affects a character, manner, sentiment, etc., in order to impress others") differs in any meaningful way from the online Webster's Dictionary definition ("a person who affects an attitude or character usually to deceive or impress").

What you seem to be doing is saying "poser" is different from "poseur" because "poser" is defined in your dictionary as "a person who poses" and "poseur" is defined more elaborately. However, you cannot leave it at that, because the dictionary is organized in such as manner to maximize brevity and reduce redundancy in definitions. If you see a definition that says "one who poses", you have to look up the definition of "pose" to get the complete definition of "one who poses". Just scan your eyes upward and look up the definition of "pose". Othwerwise you'll sound just like Carter. Carter actually made exactly the same argument you're making now, which says something about your argument.

Incidentally, it's remarkable how much attention the word "poseur" has drawn. Could it be that D90Jim's comment about us was correct?
 

Kyle
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 11:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Well , I would venture to say that ANYONE that gos out with a Camera with the intent to have pics taken of his truck or him/her , is a poser/posuer , blah blah... Therefore , we got alot of em here... :)

As well as the other boards , there are posuers all over this bitch...

Kyle
 

John Lee
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 11:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

http://www.expeditionexchange.com/dusy/DSC009396.jpg
 

Kyle
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 11:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

And there you have it...... :)

Kyle
 

John Lee
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 11:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

:)
 

Kyle
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 11:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

http://www.expeditionexchange.com/dusy/DSC009456.jpg

This here is one of the all time great poser shots..... I dig it the most. Like we landed on the moon...


Kyle
 

Eric N (Grnrvr)
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 11:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

What about the one with John Lee on the bumper? I figured that would have made it into this thread by now.. :)
 

Kyle
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 11:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

The FTD guy , yeah , that will show sooner or later..... But we actually we posing on those rocks big time... I think on this vid I mention something about posing on the radio...

Kyle
 

Rob Davison (Pokerob)
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 11:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

poseing...
http://www.expeditionexchange.com/fineliving/DCP_1910.jpg

http://www.expeditionexchange.com/fineliving/gtv021.jpg

the fact that people take spelling serious i find rediculous. the point is to communicate. if correct communication takes place then who cares about spelling? i know i dont.

same with fashion. cloths are made to protect me from the elements not accessorize my body.

rd
 

Greg Davis (Gregdavis)
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 11:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hi, my name is Greg, and I'm a posuer.
 

Greg Davis (Gregdavis)
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 11:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Actually, I think I'm a poser.
 

Greg Davis (Gregdavis)
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 12:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hmmm. Now that I think about it, I might actually be a posuer.


No, on second thought I am a poser. Damn, this used to be so easy.
 

Blue (Bluegill)
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 12:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

scroll up a bit - I posted a picture of the TRUE POSEUR yesterday
 

andythoma
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 12:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

What about those who use video cameras? What kind of poser/posuer are they? Even more so they sell those videos. What type poses and sells? (with clothes on of course) My last question, okay POR may not debate the english language on their site, but how about the freelander site?

Andy
 

RJ Clayton (Tozovr)
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 12:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

well, not to split hairs, but us jeep guys have our share of posers as well....The guys in the Wranglers with 35" boggers and the original 235/75 spare....

Anyhooo...I'd say that It would be someone who looks the part of a wheeler, yet never sees off road....
 

Axel Haakonsen (Axel)
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 12:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Well, those who use videocameras would not be either posers or poseurs, as long as they are behind the camera. Those in front of it could qualify as both. Those who sell videos are capitalists. Those who poses and sells are creative capitalists. I think.
 

Peter Matusov (Pmatusov)
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 12:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

hmmm

i've got a very nice New Year present a few days back, with two DVDs in it... wonder who these guys were :)

peter
 

Peter Matusov (Pmatusov)
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 12:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

RJ, let me ruffle your feathers.

i shredded my right rear 35" BFG MT two days ago towing an XJ up some trail... it wasn't built much, but i couldn't see building it up to the task, short of doubling its high KBB price :)

peter
 

Peter Matusov (Pmatusov)
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 12:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

oh yea, and being a poseur, i had 33" donut spare :) on an axle with a TracLoc (that apparently welded itself into a locker), it made for some interesting handling.

but i'll improve upon myself soon.
 

andythoma
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 12:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

So the photographer is the poser posing the poseurs?

Andy
 

Lance
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 12:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

OK, quick question, and I'm serious:

Who is as proud of their abs (as in belly, not brakes) as they are of their rig?
 

John Cinquegrana (Johnc)
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 12:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Your wife is proud of my abs Lance.... :)
 

Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 01:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

John,

I was not comparing between the two definitions of poseur in different versions of Webster; I was illustrating the differences between poser and poseur. Thus, your second point is correct. I graciously concur that, unfortunately, I do not have an unabridged dictionary at hand: I am limited to my college dictionary (which, is at least better than an abridged pocket dictionary).

You have brought up an interesting point, though, one which I hadn't considered... not the definition of poser versus poseur, but rather, within the definition of "poser: a person who poses", the definition of pose itself. If you go to pose's first definition (which I unfortunately cropped away), it is (paraphrasing) one who holds a physical position for an artistic purpose. The second definition of pose is (again paraphrasing) to pretend to be what one is not in order to impress or deceive.

Thus, it begs one to ask: does use of poser restrict you to definition 1 of pose, or can the other definitions of pose, such as 2, be attributed to the poser? Making an assumption here, I postulate that any definition of pose can be attributed to the poser.

So, now lets compare poseur against poser(2nd version of pose)... a poseur assumes a manner in order to impress others, whereas a poser(2) pretends to be what one is not in order to impress.

A poseur will be putting on a show, but it may be an honest show, an exhibition of one's own inner child, (or not); whereas a poser(2) is being dishonest regardless....

I honestly don't have a dog in the fight, I just like to see the dogs fight... :)

-L
 

Glenn Guinto (Glenn)
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 01:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I always wondered what this reflective board is for? Ho on TV

Is it for more light? Or is it supposed to enhance Ho's looks?

-glenn
 

John Lee
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 01:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

"does use of poser restrict you to definition 1 of pose, or can the other definitions of pose, such as 2, be attributed to the poser? Making an assumption here, I postulate that any definition of pose can be attributed to the poser."

That's correct. If the definition of a "poser" is "one who poses", then one can properly use the word "poser" to describe someone who "poses", in whatever fashion.

"So, now lets compare poseur against poser(2nd version of pose)... a poseur assumes a manner in order to impress others, whereas a poser(2) pretends to be what one is not in order to impress. A poseur will be putting on a show, but it may be an honest show, an exhibition of one's own inner child, (or not); whereas a poser(2) is being dishonest regardless...."

There's where you make a stretch of things in order to win your argument. Just because you describe the two actions differently does not mean they are are truly different. Let's just face the fact that "poser" and "poseur" are really the same thing.

Just think of the poseur/poser distinction as being similar to the theater/theatre distinction. If you go to the movies and pay less than $10 for a ticket, you're going to a "theater." If you're going to the opera, however, and you're paying more than $10 for a ticket, you're going to a "theatre." Similiarly, if you're buying Crayola crayons for your kids, those crayons come in different "colors." If you're buying some fancy PBS.org crayons for your kids, then those crayons come in different "colours", including "light grey" and "mauve." Big fucking deal. The meaning is the same in all of these instances and it usually sounds wannabe to use the fancy spellings when they don't suit one's or a place's vernacular.

There are, however, exceptions to this. I personally prefer "poseur" over "poser" to describe wannabe's because of the wannabe sophistication in the spelling. A poseur is by definition a wannabe, so I think it gives greater effect to describe a wannabe with a word that is spelled in somewhat of a wannabe (although still correct) manner. That is not say, however, that "poser" is incorrect or that there is a meaningful distinction in meaning between "poseur" and "poser".
 

Greg Davis (Gregdavis)
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 02:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I still think I'm a poser, not a posuer.
 

John Lee
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 02:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Greg,

If you're one, you're also the other.
 

Axel Haakonsen (Axel)
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 02:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post


Quote:

Is it for more light? Or is it supposed to enhance Ho's looks?



No, that is where they wrote his lines. As you can see he was just being a posing poseur, he did not have much to say.... :)

Seriously though, that square thing is a reflector, to bounce light back up at Ho. I bleive the person holding it is called a grip. Gaffer is an lighting tech/electrician, and Best Boy is John Lee. :)
 

mongo
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 02:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I still have no idea what I am?...

Frank
 

Eric N (Grnrvr)
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 02:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I'm a fat ass moron.. But, I'm ok with that.
 

Curtis N (Curtis)
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 02:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I once tried to fake being a poseur. It was the same day I thought I was mistaken, but I was wrong.
 

Greg Davis (Gregdavis)
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 02:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

So, if you're posing for a family protrait, are you also posueing (sp?) to be a family, even if you really are one?
 

John Lee
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 02:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Greg,

Now you're stretching more than Les was in order to make your point. At least Les was using words that really exist.
 

mongo
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 02:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

huh... I really need a beer......we've already got 6 inches of snow and the heavy stuff won't be here 'till later...

frank
 

Axel Haakonsen (Axel)
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 02:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Give me ambiguity or give me........something else!!
 

RJ Clayton (Tozovr)
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 02:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post


Quote:

RJ, let me ruffle your feathers.

i shredded my right rear 35" BFG MT two days ago towing an XJ up some trail... it wasn't built much, but i couldn't see building it up to the task, short of doubling its high KBB price

peter




Heh heh, no rufflage Pete LOL...I've been pulled out by rovers before and pulled plenty myself... as seen here LOL

Rovers are great, I love wheeling with them, even though there are many Rover guys who give me the old Stinkeye, for driving a Jeep...It's really not what you buy, but what you build...My truck now sits at 4.5" over stock and will outwheel many other trucks out there, Jeep, Rover or otherwise. And I have less than $2k into Mods...Hell at only 2.5 of lift with 30's on it made a built D90 look stupid at the Rover-Jeep Summit last Nov.

Again, it's all in what you build and how you drive it. I know guys in a stock rig that would make me look like an ape, and then there are guys who have $18k into mods alone who shouldn't be allowed to wheel they suck so badly! LOL.


as you folks say, Cheers!

RJ
 

Peter Matusov (Pmatusov)
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 02:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

RJ,

i'm not up to having 35s on my rovers yet :)

it was a case when you need all your wheels on the ground, and a rig heavy enough to break the ice off the rocks. a big part of XJ's problem was that it is so light - at times, you could push it sideways by one hand. Reminded me of the day about a year ago when we were headed the same way, up the trail, and encountered a group of Samis that made a little spectacle of telling us there was no way we could go up (and, on that assumption, they wouldn't move off the road to let us pass). A funny part was that one of these guys slid into another, on a stretch where the bigger rigs didn't even spin a tire.

peter
 

Greg Davis (Gregdavis)
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 02:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Sorry, I was just posing a question.
 

Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 03:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

LOL!

"There's where you make a stretch of things in order to win your argument."

John, I switched sides of the "argument" to agree with you! LOL!

Initially I took poser to only be poser(1), but you convinced me that poser(2) is just as valid. Then, after I conceded that, you mistook my slight understanding of some possible -albeit so slight to be negligible- shading of difference between the two terms to be a strong distinction... lol...

Whee..... you can tell that if we get this worked up over a danged "u", we'd better be glad it's Friday.....

:)

-L
 

John Lee
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 03:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

LOL. I'm telling you, Les. If we weren't poseurs ourselves, or at the very least afraid of being perceived as poseurs, we wouldn't even give a shit.
 

Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 03:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

lol......

True enough......

Reminds me.... Once at a fencing tournament... I had finally gotten my really dang cool quilted fencing jacket with the side snaps.... I had it partially unsnapped at the top between bouts, folded over, looking the part of the musketeer... I was leaning on my elbow on a handrail for the stadium, mask tucked under my other arm, chatting with some (very cute!) spectator, when Otto walked by and made a comment to the effect that "Les, you're better at looking good as a fencer than you are at fencing!" Sheesh, talk about feeling shot down..... :)


-L
 

Peter Matusov (Pmatusov)
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 03:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

John, that's some serious wisdom here.
 

Glenn Guinto (Glenn)
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 03:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Shit... this thread just made me buy a discoweb shirt! I guess it's the poser(eur) in me... LOL

-glenn
Can't wait to go wheeling in my discoweb t-shirt! Would that increase my articulation? -- or would chicks start clinging to me?
 

John Lee
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 03:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

One thing I could never understand is why the "Three Musketeers" are depicted in the movies using swords instead of muskets. It would be like the "Three Pistoleros" using rifles. Or the "Three Swordsmen" using shotguns.
 

Paul D. Morgan (V22guy)
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 03:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Damn, where have I been to miss all of this love?

Forget Poser, how about dumbass? Saturday morning at Lowes I was strapping down 10 2x4's and 2 2x8's onto the adventure rack. Off in the distance I hear some lady say, "Hey Honey, do you see what that dumbass is doing to his Land Rover? What a Dumbass!" It's amazing how far a voice can carry in a semi-empty parking lot at 8am in the morning. I just laughed it off and drove home.
 

RJ Clayton (Tozovr)
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 03:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post


Quote:

One thing I could never understand is why the "Three Musketeers" are depicted in the movies using swords instead of muskets. It would be like the "Three Pistoleros" using rifles. Or the "Three Swordsmen" using shotguns.




John, I sat here for a minute and just thought about that...man you'd think something like that would be obvious, but it isn't and it winds up beeing...well, kind of creepy. Very good observation.

RJ
 

blue
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 04:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

this is fawking ridiculous
 

Kim S (Roverine)
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 04:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

LOL, I'm sick (physically, as well! - head cold) but this thread is making me feel better, LOL

Glenn, LOL, the chicks better not start clinging too much since I told hubby to wear the t-shirt to the gym (insert Satuarday Night Fever music as he strolls in with it on ...) However, it will increase your articulation ...

LOL, John, couldn't agree more :)

Blue nailed it near the top of the thread

Kim
 

Glenn Guinto (Glenn)
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 04:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

LOL Kim.... does hubby have the matching bell bottoms? If he does he's considered "lethal" -- in a good kinda way...

-glenn
 

Ron
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 09:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

"there are way too many Rons around here. Any wauy ou guys can organize something like: Ron 1, Ron 2, Ron 3, etc...? "

I was here first, the rest of the poseurs (sp) need to use an initial LOL

Ron
 

Ron
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 09:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

And BTW John Lee on the poseur poser thing you are wrong.

While one could call someone who pretends to be something he is not a poseur or a poser one could not call someone who poses for a picture a poseur. It would be an incorrect use of the word. You will note in the definition of poseur above that "one who poses" is not included, only a reference to pose as the route word.

Therefore, the two words, poser and poseur, have different meanings. The meaning of the latter is inclusive in the meaning of the former, but the latter does not have the breadth of meaning of the former.

Thus to be most specific, one who puts on an appearance of being something they are not in order to impress others, such as John Lee, is best called a poseur, as to eliminate the possibility that any educated person would think that he simply liked to pose for for the camera in his truck.

Ron

PS I know the above is full of spelling and gramatical errors but I don't feel like fixing it.

PPS did anyone catch "'behavior' and 'behavior'" as a citation of a word that can be spelled two ways? John, if you are going to be a pedantic ass at least check your posts.
 

EricV (Bender2033)
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 10:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Rock on Eric N! I'm a fat ass too! I guess the correct term would be "Mouse Potato".

Can we please get the cool green-animated-flipping-you-off smilies that they have on POR? And maybe the rainbow flag one as well!


wget www.discoweb.org | grep -i poser
 

EricV (Bender2033)
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 10:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Speaking of being a poser ....

All those cool series and ultra schwank D2's with their roof top tents made me feel err "inadequate". What do you think of my MAR2k2 roof top special?

poser
 

EricV (Bender2033)
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 10:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

poser
 

MATURITY
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 10:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

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KJ
Posted on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 12:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Read and learn:

http://www.click2flicks.com/the_musketeer/the_musketeer_ch1.htm

Chapter 11 on the above site, if the link doesn't get you there.

Karen
 

Curtis N (Curtis)
Posted on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 02:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Ron,

Your interpretation of the proper use of the English language is mistaken at best:
_____________
"And BTW John Lee on the poseur poser thing you are wrong." and then: "While one could call someone who pretends to be something he is not a poseur or a poser one could not call someone who poses for a picture a poseur. It would be an incorrect use of the word. You will note in the definition of poseur above that "one who poses" is not included, only a reference to pose as the route word."
__________

I believe that your above comment verifies the fact that you have absolutely no idea what John was talking about. I am not going to rehash these points, but they are valid and correct. After the excellent lesson that has been provided for everyone in this post I would suggest a meticulous review. If the suggested review does not claify the proper use of letters to words to sentences...then you may want to consider and ENG 1010 clas at your local CC. It will help you out in many more areas in life. Even that beyond Dweb:)

Curtis
 

Jroc (Jroc)
Posted on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 10:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Seriously though, that square thing is a reflector, to bounce light back up at Ho. I believe the person holding it is called a grip. Gaffer is an lighting tech/electrician, and Best Boy is John Lee.

Actually a Grip is a union title, the person holding the reflector in that photo is the kid they hired to get starbucks. A Grip would've gotten a stand to hold the reflector. The Gaffer is not a lighting tech/electrician he's THE Lighting Chief. Kinda like a D.P.(Director of Photography) that speaks fucking english! And the Best boy is the Assistant to the Gaffer.

Sorry, couldn't help myself. Calling a Gaffer a Lighting Technician/Electrician is kinda like calling a Colonel an Infantryman. No offense Axel.

52 Pride...
 

John Lee
Posted on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 12:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Oh god, here comes Grand Master Ron.

Imagine two guys arguing about anal orifices. One guy likes to use the word "butthole." Another guy likes to use the word "asshole." The two guys start arguing about which word is more appropriate. I come along and ask "what the hell is the difference?" You have an ax to grind with me and so you come along and say, "No, there is a difference. 'Asshole' is inclusive of 'butthole' because it could also pertain to a gunshot wound in a donkey. Also, 'asshole' and 'butthole' are different because 'asshole' can be used to describe a jerk."

Talk about a stretch. If taking words out of context is all you have to go on, that's pathetic. When Les and I were debating the distinctions or non-distinctions between "poseur" and "poser", the various definitions of "poser" came up. Did Les use your chicken-shit argument? Of course not. He knew the context of the debate and that it would be a stretch to take things out of context and he would end up sounding like a moron.

Yeah, so I had a typo when typing "behaviour." It's not the normal way I spell the word "behavior" and so I didn't even notice it. But this is also a stretch. You're digging pretty hard to stick it to me, because I've slammed you in the past for being a cheap fuck and a slob. There's clearly a difference between a typographical error (such as typing "teh" instead of "the" or Carter's typing "probablly" instead of "probably") and, for example, typing "carrot" instead of "karat" or Carter's confusing "later" and "latter" or "you're" and "your." In your little mind, they two may be one and the same, but they are not. Or, you might know the two are different, but you're just straining because that's all you have in this argument.

"PS I know the above is full of spelling and gramatical errors but I don't feel like fixing it."

I find this pretty funny. This statement is as dishonest as your argument. You claim you're indifferent to spelling and grammar, but you obviously proofed your post very carefully before posting it. You even use the pronoun "he" in conjunction with the noun "one", even though is not your vernacular. But you slipped in your fourth paragraph. You dropped back to using your standard "they" in conjunction with "one" again. This is not a huge deal or anything, especially on a web BBS. But I offer it only to show that you're a fucking liar when you claim indifference to the spelling and grammar in your post. You obviously did care, but you were too stupid to proof some paragraphs of your post as carefully as you did the rest of your post.

As I said to Carter, stick to what you know, like teaching people how to screw over their mothers to save a dollar or two or how to break your truck on a dirt road. At least then you'll be just a cheap fuck or a slob. Now in addition to being a cheap fuck and a slob, you're also a liar and moron.

Yeah, yeah, I know. You don't give a shit what I think of you. Whatever.
 

EricV (Bender2033)
Posted on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 12:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Yes but DAMMIT what do you think of my tent Mr. Lee?
 

John Lee
Posted on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 12:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I absolutely love it.
 

Brian Friend (Brianfriend)
Posted on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 12:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Just when I was getting a bit bored because there have not been any real good flaming posts this one poped up about verbage and vocabulary. Very entertaining.

For some reason every time John Lee posts i am compelled to read it. I don't know, maybe it is kind of like looking at an accident as you pass by. You know you shouldn't look and nothing good will come of it but you just can't avert your eyes.
 

Jroc (Jroc)
Posted on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 02:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

If i'de a nown they wood be sooo much learnin on dis bored i'de a never boddered wit collich!
 

Carter Simcoe (Carter)
Posted on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 04:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Thanks for all the emails guys, I think I am pretty close to getting some Equal without opening my wallet to John Lee. If anyone else is interested in bypassing him this might help you out: http://www.imiproducts.com/
 

Peter Bullock (Downunderdisco)
Posted on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 04:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

and the winner of dweb's "I know more swear words and insults than you so there" competition for January is......
Congratulations John Lee!!
After fending off some tough challenges, you came out miles ahead. All this while putting in a very strong campaign for the "most anal spelling and grammar police - Ill keep this thread going and have the last word to prove how smart I am" challenge which was also hotly contested. Sadly John, you can only be elidgeable to win one award per month, regardless of your strong showing in both areas.
Look forward to seeing you next month but in the mean time folks, why not contact John about his new "Talking tough on the net - anyone can do it" self help course?! An educational and fun way to improve the net time for you and all the unfortunate folk on the same discussion lists as you. Hes waiting for your call....



An ecstatic John Lee today after accepting his award.
 

Rob Davison (Pokerob)
Posted on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 06:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

i tell you john, it's funny you use the poop hole referenece.

i actually have a preference,which is "asshole"

when some one says asshole i picture a person who is rude and greedy.

when someone says "butthole" i actually picture an 'anus' in my mind and that makes me feel iky.

please say asshole.

rd
 

Eric N (Grnrvr)
Posted on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 08:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

"My name is corn hole-e-o!! I need TP for my bunghole!!"
 

Ron
Posted on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 12:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

LOL John, I see you can say more bad things about me than I can about you, or maybe I should take the gloves off. Nothing like a good flame war :)

WARNING: do not read if you are easily offended especially by poor spelling and grammer :)

John, I think you missed my main point:

You are a poseur.

Your pedantic, overwritten tiraids, are just a cover for the fact that you know jack shit about rovers.

You don't even own a disco, and this is discoweb not grammer web. The reason why you never post of your own experiences or any tech help is you don't know anything beyond springs and brake pads. Sure, you and your TOEFL grammer is better than my grammer, and no I don't care. Yes, I did start out trying to make things somewhat correct, but I was like screw it midway through as I had to hurry up so I put the comment at the end. It certainly does not make me a liar.

You are clearly insecure about your knowledge, because if you were not, you would give some tech help. You realize that if you ever did post something meaningfull, it would expose your ineptitude. While I do not know you well enough to say for sure, I am pretty sure this can extended to the rest of your life. You can't do it so you fake it. Shine it up real nice and go on fine living. Use meticulously correct grammer and spelling to overcompensate for who you are. Stick all the bolt on junk to your 90 and not have any of it show one sign of use.

You run a company that is a take off on the name of a clothing manufacturer (armani exchange humm) and has a word, which you know nothing about. How many expeditions have you been on? See a trend here poseur?

As far as me being cheap, guilty as charged. A quick look see at the EE site and I can tell you were every product you sell can be had for much less. Maybe thats why you don't like me, because I cost you business. Oh whats that, your superior customer service makes up for it. HA! Anyone who reads discoweb knows what kind of person you are and knows how little you understand. As far as the slob, liar, and moron comments, try saying that to my face. Where I come from that an attack on a man's honor. But I am not worried, because if we ever do meet, it will be clear that you are just a short little man who likes to pretend.

Ron

PS And back to the poser . . . poseur thing. To continue with your example and twist the point a bit. When refering to the end of ones colon, anus and asshole mean pretty much the same thing, but when reffering to you, asshole applies and anus would just sound silly, unless one were referring to your face.
 

Curtis N (Curtis)
Posted on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 01:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Peter,

Can I get this one?

>>After fending off some tough challenges, you came out miles ahead. All this while putting in a very strong campaign for the "most anal spelling and grammar police - Ill keep this thread going and have the last word to prove how smart I am" challenge which was also hotly contested.<<

I tried really hard for this coveted award. It was a difficult push. The competition was tough and I had little to work with, but I gave it all I had :).

Curtis
 

Kyle
Posted on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 10:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hmm
I have to admit , that was pretty good Ron....lol.. But I call Ho "Anus" quite alot....
You will also notice Ron that when you are flaming with someone back and forth here , in the end when they run out of knowledge they go for the spelling and grammar...
You do realize however that John Lee has like an Encyclopedia of shit to slam you on ?

Kyle
 

Dean Chrismon (Chrismonda)
Posted on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 11:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Woo Hooo!!! Didn't know what else to say....
 

Michael Villanueva (Michael)
Posted on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 12:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I detest the smell of testosterone in the morning.
 

Rob Davison (Pokerob)
Posted on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 12:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

i love the smell of napalm in the morning....

rd
 

Ron L (Ronl)
Posted on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 01:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

The rest of us Rons better get our shit together so as not to be confused with this shmuck when the "Big One" Hits.

Ron L

PS. Carter, did you come back for more?
 

Michael Villanueva (Michael)
Posted on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 01:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Napalm, at least, is honest in its intent.
 

Curtis N (Curtis)
Posted on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 01:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I feel like we are all sitting in an awkward calm before the storm...
 

Michael Villanueva (Michael)
Posted on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 02:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Awkward??

Naw. More like relaxing anticipation.

I got a ringside seat and a soda.
 

mongo
Posted on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 02:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hey Curtis, it could be a pretty big storm...

Frank
 

Curtis N (Curtis)
Posted on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 02:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

LOL. I guess it is a good thing it is raining here today. I sure hope the storm does not take too long rolling in.
 

Carter Simcoe (Carter)
Posted on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 05:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

"PS. Carter, did you come back for more?"

-Ummmm... No.
 

Axel Haakonsen (Axel)
Posted on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 06:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post


Quote:

Sorry, couldn't help myself. Calling a Gaffer a Lighting Technician/Electrician is kinda like calling a Colonel an Infantryman. No offense Axel.



None taken, I have never been on a real movie set. Wait, that's not true, my brother and I was in a TV movie in Norway back in 71, speaking parts and everything, but that's another story.... Anyway, I don't have a crew when I shoot the footage for the DiscoWeb videos, so I guess that makes me the Gaffer, Best Boy (Allthough I still think John Lee deserves that title :)), Director, and Starbucks dude. Or maybe I'm just a moviecrew poseur... :)
and how the hell did anyone come up with words like Gaffer and Grip anyway? :)
 

Paul D. Morgan (V22guy)
Posted on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 07:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

".....That smell.....it's victory"
 

Eric N (Grnrvr)
Posted on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 08:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Maybe it's cause they have to have a good grip since they are always holding on to stuff? Huh, maybe, you think?
 

John Moore (Jmoore)
Posted on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 08:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

WOW! I can't believe it, I've been shoveling snow for two days, come back to Dweb and this is still going on...

-John
 

Axel Haakonsen (Axel)
Posted on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 09:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

So did the saying "Get a Grip!!" originate from the movie industry, then?

getagrip
 

Eric N (Grnrvr)
Posted on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 10:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

hahahahahahahaha That's a good one Axel...
 

Kevin Howell
Posted on Monday, January 06, 2003 - 07:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

still waiting for the big one to hit. c'mon, already!! this is killing me!!! in the meantime, i've caught myself referring to other drivers as "bolt on fags" on at least 8 occasions this past weekend. since it appears to be my new favorite catch-phrase, i'd love to know what the hell it means.
 

John Lee
Posted on Monday, January 06, 2003 - 01:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Yeah, I'm a poseur. Whatever Ron. That accusation means a lot coming from someone who wheels only when there's some East Coast Land Rover rally featuring dirt roads, Land Rover flags in campgrounds, and teeter-totters and whose social life revolves around such events. I don't claim to be the ultimate wheeler or whatever. That would be absurd. But I'm confident I have wheeled more and know more about wheeling than you.

I also find it funny that one of the bases for your calling me a poseur is that my D90 is in good shape. It's obvious that in your mind, a Rover is a poseurmobile unless it's fucked up and broken, just like your Rovers. No, my D90 isn't fucked up and broken, but it's done its fair share of trails. The reason my D90 isn't fucked up is because, unlike you, I exercise judgment on the trails and I actually take good care of it when I'm off the trails (although I've been slacking for the past few months). I think that driving around town with mud and dirt on the truck is actually the sign of a true poseur, and so I usually stop off at the public do-it-yourself car wash on the way home after a run to get most of the junk off the truck. I also wash and wax my truck frequently, so that it looks its best. Yeah, I know, you're cracking up at all of this and calling me a waxer or poseur. Whatever. But I've seen pics of your trucks and how fucked up they are, and I do not care to drive around a hunk of shit. Unlike you, I don't need to have my truck in crap condition to give off the message to others that I'm the "real deal" or something.

I also don't brag about whatever I've broken, unlike you. To me, vehicle carnage is nothing to be proud of. Sure, I've broken stuff. But I don't go around bragging about it or wearing a list of stuff I've broken like some wannabe badge of honor. In your mind, vehicle carnage is something to be proud of and be bragged about. I suppose you think that such bragging is a good thing, because it lets other people know that you're not a poseur and that you go places where no man has gone before, blah, blah, blah. To me, your bragging about your carnage just shows me what an insecure moron you are. Furthermore, how you can break so much stuff when you wheel so infrequently and on such easy trails is beyond me.

As for posting tech answers on Discoweb, I don't do it for several reasons. The main reason is because I deal with tech questions all day with customers, and I come to DiscoWeb as sort of a release from work. Thus, my main interest is in the general topics rather than the tech topics. Also, most of the tech topics on DiscoWeb pertain to questions like "I saw a winch for $499 and I think it's as good as a Husky, should I do it?" and "I want a Detroit but don't want to buy the HD halfshafts, can I do it?" and "Is the Chinese lifting jack as good as the Hi-Lift?" and "Can I use my lashing rings as recovery points?" and so on. You get the idea. All of these topics have been covered dozens of times in the past and are rather tiresome to cover yet again. Also, the poster usually knows the correct answer, but he's just fishing for a response that he wants to hear. Hence, I usually ignore such threads and prefer to read the general banter and gossip on DiscoWeb. Another reason I don't answer such questions is that I don't want to sound like a know-it-all like Al Oliveira or Perrone Ford. Also, I don't post answers to tech questions because I'm not here to troll for business like Dee or some of the other vendors. I'm here because I enjoy some of the banter/gossip/etc.

And yes, you are a liar. To feign indifference now to spelling and grammer is absurd. You obviously tried to make your post as intelligent-sounding as you could. Anyone with half a brain can tell there's a drastic difference in the language and tenor of your two last posts. In your penultimate post, you used words that are not part of your vernacular. You tried to use words like "inclusive" but you stumbled by using "inclusive in" even though such a thing is not logically possible. You also tried to use the pronoun "he" to be grammatically correct but you slipped later in your post because such language is not natural to you. Again, this is not a big deal, but I offer these examples only to show that you are lying when you claim you are indifferent to spelling and grammar. You clearly were not and were trying to sound as educated/intelligent as possible. Were you truly indifferent, you wouldn't have made the attempt to sound educated/intelligent and screwed up the way you did. Hence, your statement that, "I know the above is full of spelling and gramatical errors but I don't feel like fixing it" just a lie. Furthermore, it's a chickenshit shield, sort of like when kids say "tap tap no flashies."

"Where I come from that an attack on a man's honor."

This is also laughable. If you had any concept of honor, you wouldn't be the liar and niggardly person that you are. This post is getting too long, so I'll leave it at that for now.
 

Michael Villanueva (Michael)
Posted on Monday, January 06, 2003 - 02:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Definitely an E ride.
 

Dominik Chrzan (Dominik)
Posted on Monday, January 06, 2003 - 03:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

"niggardly"

uh oh. he's cornered and getting desperate!
 

the Big Daddy
Posted on Monday, January 06, 2003 - 03:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Mr. Lee ,
You're so predictable! Your plucky little response strengthens my desire to sleep with you ! Now leave ol' Ron alone and come play in the big game .
Big Hugs!
 

Kevin Howell
Posted on Monday, January 06, 2003 - 04:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

hey, where'd carter go? get back in on this carter!! :)
 

Peter Matusov (Pmatusov)
Posted on Monday, January 06, 2003 - 04:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

From John Lee to Ron, with compliments



there's collateral damage, but who the fuck cares :)

peter
 

the Big Daddy
Posted on Monday, January 06, 2003 - 04:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Would THAT fit ?
 

Peter Matusov (Pmatusov)
Posted on Monday, January 06, 2003 - 04:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

it'll take out Ron's entire home state, i think :)
 

the Big Daddy
Posted on Monday, January 06, 2003 - 04:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

No, No , No,
John's hiney isn't that big ?
 

Pete B (Downunderdisco)
Posted on Monday, January 06, 2003 - 04:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Now that was a decent flaming. If you can make your point in a sensible,intelligent manner without resorting to chilish playground name calling, its sometimes even worth everyone else having to read the shite. Better than "oh yeah?! Well your a fucking moron!"
"oh yeah?! Well I screwed your mum."
That shit doesnt prove a damn thing except that youre only on Dweb all night cause you have no friends left.
But thats just my opinion...
 

Peter Matusov (Pmatusov)
Posted on Monday, January 06, 2003 - 05:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

what's wrong with the "fucking moron," Pete?

more entertaining is that the subject of this thread was buried and forgotten near the top of it.
 

James F. Thompson Jaime (Blueboy)
Posted on Monday, January 06, 2003 - 05:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

and you consider that unusual???
 

Blue (Bluegill)
Posted on Monday, January 06, 2003 - 05:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post


Quote:

there's collateral damage, but who the fuck cares




that's one of the funniest things I've read on this site in a while...I just choked on my Planter's party peanuts.
 

Peter Matusov (Pmatusov)
Posted on Monday, January 06, 2003 - 05:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

nope

i really enjoyed this thread.

in fact, considered creating a flowchart on "How to win an argument on Discoweb." [Not that I ever could,] but it would be neat to generalize all the main pick-up lines.

I can see a neat manual here:

Chapter 1. How to start an argument at DW.
Chapter 2. How to turn it into a flame war.
Chapter 3. How to win a flame war.
Chapter 4. How to make the last post.

advanced read:
Appendix A. How to offend who you want to offend without collateral damage.
Appendix B. How to keep the heat on without getting your IP blocked.
Appendix C. How to fake your IP and identity to keep flames going and site admins pissed.

peter
 

Kyle
Posted on Monday, January 06, 2003 - 05:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I am pretty much guilty of the over washing and Waxing thing myself. Infact , Sean Wolf , Ax and I were washing our trucks in a self serve deal in the middle of the night in BFE Nevada before going into the black rock dessert down a 70 mile long dirt road...lol. Then again in lake Tahoe after finishing up the Rubicon..

Now I gotta ask Evan..

What in the Fuck is "The big game" ??? Am I missing something again ?

Kyle
 

Rob Davison (Pokerob)
Posted on Monday, January 06, 2003 - 05:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

kyle,,, you gotta look good for the camera's

ask findlay how nice i had my truck when he showed up,, and man did it make his look bad.... well you know what his was like.

rd
 

the Big Daddy
Posted on Monday, January 06, 2003 - 05:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Na , I'm just having fun.......
 

Blue (Bluegill)
Posted on Monday, January 06, 2003 - 05:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

For the record, I've seen John's D90 up close & personal, and it is indeed a fine piece of machinery. Same with Ho's yellow butterball baby. I've also wheeled with them, and it seems that their Rovers have been taken to task a time or two, certainly more than some others I've seen on this site.

Perhaps the whole "poseur" issue is not a quantifiable one; rather, it's purely relative.
 

Peter Matusov (Pmatusov)
Posted on Monday, January 06, 2003 - 06:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I made a really nice poseurfest in Sequoia Park after Christmas - drove the Disco off the plowed end of the road. Guess what, it sank 30 yards down the road. Just like it did many times before, nice and flat on the bottom, with all four wheels spinning nearly in thin air. Hope my brother took a picture, to add to poseur gallery.

two years ago I've seen a guy who spent 2 hours winching himself into 2N13, a normally nice and flat dirt road near Big Bear Lake. There were only four feet of snow, one-powdery on top of three-packed. In two hours, he made about 100 yards from where he could drive up to, and he had a K5/20 with 15k lb winch, and plenty of trees to winch off.

what i'd really like, is that Survivor shit involving driving a land rover over Dusy Ershim in winter. recalling the former thread on this matter, I think Kyle was way overly optimistic about the progress. I'd sit on the couch, watch TV, and make smart-ass comments on who's doing things right and who's not.

peter
 

Robbie (Robbie)
Posted on Monday, January 06, 2003 - 06:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

what if d-o-g actually spelled cat...?
 

Brian Friend (Brianfriend)
Posted on Monday, January 06, 2003 - 06:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

you can always tell that lawyers are paid by the hour. They will take 10 min. to explain something that should take 30 sec. but I still eagerly await the flaming post from john. very entertaining to read.
 

Kim S (Roverine)
Posted on Monday, January 06, 2003 - 07:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

John knows good and well what he's doing in the wheelin' dept. He's responsible and exercises good judgement (well most of the time, hehehe) ... which is more than I can say for many others I've seen through the years. I don't follow him around everywhere he goes, but, this I am sure of: He's not a flake, and I've never seen nor heard of him not helping out when help is needed. Maybe there are some who easily abuse other people's help. Maybe he gets a little sick of it from time to time. And yes, that D90 of his ... has, and does kick some serious ass. No, it's not a 'fabricated monsta' or a beater. I've seen John make it through a heck of a lot of stuff that many others don't that is for sure. Another point has been well brought up here - Let's not forget that there is always something oh, just a little bit special about one's driving abilities as well. I mean stuff surely happens, but I have never understood how or why anyone would be proud of trashing their truck (unless it's disposable? even then I wouldn't get it I guess).

Call me a poser/uer, LOL, I don't think I even qualify for some folks' definition of that, LOL. (I do pose for pictures from time to time, but more often I don't and the pictures look pretty bad, hahaha!) - I like a clean, shiny well maintained vehicle, I don't care where. Listen, 'onroad', I insist on *stretching* (and I do mean stretching, LOL) a dorky tire cover over my spare! ) So I guess I do care what I look like, yet I don't. Does that make sense?
 

Michael Villanueva (Michael)
Posted on Monday, January 06, 2003 - 09:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

"So I guess I do care what I look like, yet I don't. Does that make sense?"

Ahhhh.....

Now estrogen in the evening.
 

Dee
Posted on Monday, January 06, 2003 - 10:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

PM,

WTF trying to bring this string back on topic shame on you.

....
 

KJ
Posted on Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 12:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Kim,

Keep working at it and we'll present you with the covetted "Posette" title. Consider a rooftop tent. That would look EXCELLENT in the parking lot of the motel......LOL!

Karen :)
 

Kim S (Roverine)
Posted on Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 12:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

LOL, oh KJ, if ONLY I could be in a motel ... (just one trip?) Here's my motel (but I still get the "Posette" title, LOL
104-0460_IMG.JPG
 

KJ
Posted on Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 12:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Kim,

Such a blunder on my part! If you can get that pic to post, we'll bestow the "PoseUrette" title on you! So Freudian that I'd drop the most important letters!

Karen :)
 

KJ
Posted on Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 12:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

This thread is so troublesome. Clearly, it will be nominated for the "Best Flaming" category of the DiscoWeb "Nettie" Awards, but in what YEAR???? It's straddling two years!

I blame Lance.

Karen
 

Kim S (Roverine)
Posted on Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 12:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

AACCCKK!!! I can post in the practice section but not here! LOL, I blame ... um, Lance? too. One more try ...

x
my "motel" :)
 

Kim S (Roverine)
Posted on Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 01:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

No I get the @$%! %^#$$ DORK award. I can post in the practice section, but not here. It's a conspiararcy, LOL. Ah, the hell with it anyway :)

Kim
 

Steve (Scrover)
Posted on Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 01:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

come on Kim, you can do it!

(make sure the source folder is closed)
 

Kim S (Roverine)
Posted on Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 01:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Oh lord, what a doofus am I - LOL, okay Steve, all I need is a little encouragement ...

x

I sleep under the truck in the desert ... the leaking oil does wonders to condition dry brittle hair after a dirt filled drive ...
 

Steve (Scrover)
Posted on Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 01:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

yeehaa!

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