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Ben Ziskind (Tyziskben)
| | Posted on Monday, January 06, 2003 - 06:11 pm: | 
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Ok, for those of you who aren't aware of my current situation, I put in the 2" spacers on my 89 RRC a couple of weeks ago. So, for suspension now, I have OME HD springs Frnt and Rear, Bilstein Shocks Frnt and Rear, and the 2" spacers frnt and rear with the front shock relocation plate. As of right now, there are no vibrations what so ever (up to 75mph), a little bit of steering wander, but not too bad...but here's the problem, we just had a snow storm in
Mass, and the roads were covered with a light powder (no problem for any 4 wheel drive vehicle, normally)except all of a sudden the rover feels like it doesnt have 4 wheel drive. When I'm taking a turn, It's as if I am driving a 2 wheel drive car, because I am slipping all over the place. I think the back wheels arent getting any power all of a sudden, which is causing me to have only front wheel drive. My first guess is that the driveshaft in the back is at such an angle, that it's not turning? Or is it something else? I am not too sure about what the problem is, but I do know that this has all happened since I put the spacers in. What do u guys think??? And if it is the driveshaft, will I have to replace the front and rears? or just one of them?? and how much does, say a Tom Woods, or other high angle driveshaft cost??
As always, any help is appreciated...
Thanks,
Ben ziskind
[email protected]
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Rob Davison (Pokerob)
| | Posted on Monday, January 06, 2003 - 06:25 pm: |
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it's not the driveshaft...
your VC (viscus coupling) transfer case. sounds like it has gone bad on you. it's either stuck on or off...
the driveshaft would have complained and let you know before it went.
there is a proceedure for checking if your VC went bad, i will search it out and post it.
or,, it's just slick as hell out and you arent use to it.
rob |
Rob Davison (Pokerob)
| | Posted on Monday, January 06, 2003 - 06:40 pm: |
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Ben Ziskind (Tyziskben)
| | Posted on Monday, January 06, 2003 - 07:18 pm: |
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That is definetly what it is!!!! Now, how do I fix it, and how much does it cost to get fixed (are there any parts that need to be purchased?) Thanks for the good info by the way!!!
Ben Ziskind |
Rob Davison (Pokerob)
| | Posted on Monday, January 06, 2003 - 08:09 pm: |
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you will have to get a rebuild kit.
if you go to the very earliest posts in this range rover section (about a year ago) several of us discuss switching to a disco style transfercase (lt230) in there someone talks about doing a rebuild. i think craig from land rover denver east chimes in saying it's some thing like $ 700 to rebuild and then naturally ron brown has a way to do it for less. i'll take a look around and see if i can link you.
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Rob Davison (Pokerob)
| | Posted on Monday, January 06, 2003 - 08:42 pm: |
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Ben Ziskind (Tyziskben)
| | Posted on Monday, January 06, 2003 - 10:26 pm: |
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I'm not understanding this completely. Does this mean that I need a new transfer case, or just a viscous coupling...what is a viscous coupling anyway? And is there any way to fix this and get my 4 wheel drive back without spending like $500??? Can I still put the car in Low/High,and take it offroad??? I really don't understand how this happened, can u explain that to me???
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Ben Ziskind (Tyziskben)
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 12:29 am: |
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Just to clarify, I have a partially failed unit, according to your post, so I dont know if that is any better than a completely failed unit. I would appreciate any and all the advice all of you could give me in rectifying this problem as soon as possible, and with the least amount of expense. Thanks,
Ben |
Rob Davison (Pokerob)
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 10:14 am: |
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you can rebuilt it yourself for cheap if i understand correctly. we are now getting into a place where i dont have experience (yet)
what size tires are you running BTW?
i'll have more info on my lunch break.
rob |
Ben Ziskind (Tyziskben)
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 10:56 am: |
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Rob,
I'm not experienced enough to rebuild it myself, that's for sure!!! But, I was hoping that I could just get it fixed so that I would have 4wd again, and not have to replace the entire unit. I really dont have $500 to spend right now, which is what it costs to rebuild the Borg W. unit according to Rover Clubhouse's website.
I'm running 265/75/16 BFG Mt's for tires right now.
Thanks for all the help Rob, I really appreciate the fact the you're taking the time to help me out with this situation.
Thanks again,
Ben |
Greek rover
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 02:30 am: |
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Ben,Hi.If you lost front or rear drive besides your vidcous coupling you could have a abroken front or rear axle or a broken CV joint.
I tend to believe your problem is your wider than stock tire size and the also the tire being a mud tire.Mud terrains are terible on lightly snowed or icy rodway.
you will notice
the difference between a stock rangie with stock AT tires. VS a rangie with 265/75/16 mud tire in snow and ice,especially when turning.
George Saitanis |
Rob Davison (Pokerob)
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 11:58 am: |
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i agree with george 100% on all points including the performance of MT tires on thin snow/ice
that's why it is nessecary to do the test i listed above.
also your bigger tires will contribute to a faster VC failure. bigger tires seem to burn out VC's. how much faster i dont know, it's just what i've heard from a few people.
-i have yet to get around to VC rebuild price.
i think you need to identify your problem first.
rd |
Ben Ziskind (Tyziskben)
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 02:03 pm: |
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Thanks for all the info guys. I think that it may have a lot to do witht he fact that this is the first time I've run larger than stock tires on the rover, so I was expecting better performance in the snow/ice with them. But, if you guys are right, than I guess this may be normal for for the car to run like this in the snow/ice. The one area that has me worried that it is a partially failed V/C is that when I backed out of my driveway in reverse, then put the car in drive to move forward again, the car barely moved, and I had it up to around 2200rpm, and it still wouldn't really budge. Eventually, though, I backed it up and turned the wheel (this was after a couple of attempts at just going forward)and it went forward with no problem. I'm gonna get it checked out probably when the snow clears because I wanna see if I have any of these problems on clean roads, or if it's just in the snow. Thanks a lot for all your help, and I will definetly post the results of what I find when the car does get its check-up.
Thanks again for all the help, much appreciated,
Ben Ziskind |
Rob Davison (Pokerob)
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 03:54 pm: |
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ben what area of the country are you in?
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Ben Ziskind (Tyziskben)
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 05:19 pm: |
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Rob,
I am located in Marblehead, Massachusetts. If you know of any other people who go 4-wheeling or live around here, I would love to meet them/go offroading. Always interested in meeting a fellow LandRover owner.
Thanks again for all the help, and I hope it was just the tires that were causing the concerns...fingers crossed...
Thanks,
Ben
[email protected] |
Rob Davison (Pokerob)
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 05:35 pm: |
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i have a feeling it was the tires.
i'm in pittsburgh so i dont know many folks up your way.
josh (not the goofy one who's last name i cant remember) lives in boston
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