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John Moore (Jmoore)
Posted on Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 11:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

A question for "all yall" Yankees.

I don't know much about this having just moved to upstate NY from Virginia, but I have heard that some areas are called "no Salt zones". Is there a different chemcial they use? Is it less harmful to cars?

My D2 is currently covered in salty grime from the 60" we have received so far this year!

I try to wash it frequently, including the under carriage, but it gets covered again the next day or two.

-John
 

ema
Posted on Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 11:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Depending on where you are, the alternative to salt may be sand. I know some parts of CT use it. Is it less harmful to cars? Maybe, but the front-end of your car tends to get sand-blasted at highway speeds.

My Disco is filthy. I am waiting for a warm spell to wash it.

-ema
 

Greg French (Gregfrench)
Posted on Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 02:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Where I grew up in Northern NY, our town salted, but the township next to us did not. They used sand. Much nicer to drive on IMHO. Not as messy.

Would the salt hurt a Disco as much, being an aluminun body? You probably wouldn't get the fender cancer that is so common up there. The roof would rust, though, wouldn't it?
 

TPH (Snowman)
Posted on Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 02:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

John-
Salt and sand mixed is the most common. There are alternatives available that do less harm to the roads and the enviornment. However it depends on the temperature as to it's effectiveness and sometimes good old salt is the best for safety. Honestly no matter what you do it will degrade a car within about 5 years. Some like myself hardly ever wash in the winter. I believe when you mix the water and salt it will flow into every little crevice as a briney solution and speed up the process. It's not that I never rinse it off but certainly not every week like some, I just believe that it can make it worse. Certainly doing the underside will help put off the inevitable. Also in the late Fall I strip and wax all my cars heavily. So how do you like the winters so far?
 

Greg French (Gregfrench)
Posted on Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 02:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Glad I live in South Carolina.

The only salt I get is when I put my kayaks/surfboards on my roof.

At least the top isn't rustproof aluminum, so I can achieve some really pimped-out color changes!
 

John Moore (Jmoore)
Posted on Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 02:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Snowman,

I was here last winter and thought, "well this isn't so bad". Should have knocked on the burlwood door caps, Winter came back with a vengence! Skiing, riding and sledding have been great! They also keep the roads in good shape, so can't complain. It's just tough when it's so deep on the driveway (Shoveling), plus ours is a decent hill. I will take snow over ice anyday.

It's also been so deep the kids can't go out and play. The last snow was up to my three year old's chest!

That's a interesting idea about not washing.

Back to my original question, I have noticed some people put Calcium Chloride out rather than salt. I didn't know if the cities and DOT use that when they say it's a "No Salt Area".

I like to keep my rig clean, just got a 99D2 to replace my 88RRC. One reason I sold the rangie, is that it had bit eaten by the rust bug. (It lived most it's life in PA)

-John
 

Greg P. (Gparrish)
Posted on Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 03:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

We have a ton of salt here in the Philly area, but I also see and hear about them using a brine solution sometimes too. The salt sucks though. It gets in your house, on your clothes, in the car, under the car, and everywhere else. I don't know if washing it helps much at all as you get right back into salt as soon as you drive away from the car wash.
 

TPH (Snowman)
Posted on Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 03:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I forgot to mention to be sure to keep up on your floorboards because they catch all the gunk/salt from your shoes and boots. It's easy to forget them until the spring and then they are really hard to clean up. I usually get a few carpet scrapes and cut them to fit, then I throw them out every Spring. I use heavy rubber mats with the tall sides on top of that. Also consider getting a snowblower they are an absolute blast!
 

John Moore (Jmoore)
Posted on Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 06:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Is the snow blower an option for the D2? LOL! :) I have the cold weather package! It would make an great plow vehicle! Wonder what the soccer moms would think about that. Abusing such a nice Land Rover, for shame!

I got the rubber LR mats, full set, and I am very glad I did.

-John
 

Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
Posted on Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 10:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Calcium chloride is also a salt, just a different salt than sodium chloride, FWIW... :)

What is used also depends on what is available where... southwestern Virginia is big on using salt, as it's possible to get it locally (ever hear of Saltville? lol...) Some places, sand is more economical...

The brine solutions supposedly reduce the amount of salt that is introduced into the roadside environments, by using less salt than direct dumping.

FWIW...

-L
 

Al Oliveira (Offroaddisco)
Posted on Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 10:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

VA seems to be insane about the amount of salt and sand used. Much more than I ever saw in CT.
 

Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
Posted on Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 11:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Tennessee uses it, but no where near as liberally as Virginia.... you can tell the difference when you cross the state line, by the white road...

-L

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