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Max Pegler (Max200tdi)
Posted on Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 06:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

The solenoids in my Warn high mount have died. Again. So I'm seriously considering the Maxidrive hydraulic conversion.

Here's my question: Has anyone needed a winch with a dead engine? What happened? (Excluding the "stall in river" scenario that always comes up)

Its happened to me once - huge tyre ruts climbing out of a creek bed, try and stay on high bits, but of course slid in coz of wet tyres. Car goes over at 45 degrees, oil light flickers, shut it off. Climb out passengers door like a submarine hatch, easy single line recovery with dry cell batteries.

Anything like this happened to anyone else? What I'm thinking of is say winching up a big rock ledge - ever had the oil light come on?

Regards
Max P
 

Carter Simcoe (Carter)
Posted on Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 08:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Stalled mine in some DEEP mud once and had to winch out w/ no engine power. I have heard of people installing a switch which raises the idle when you flip it on, I would definitly look into it if I were going to go hydraulic
 

Barry
Posted on Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 07:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Max,

Have you considered switching to heavy duty solenoids? Awhile back, there was a thread on low-cost HD golf car solenoids.

-Barry
 

Ken Dunnington (Ihwillys)
Posted on Friday, January 10, 2003 - 07:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Secondary electric powered hydraulic pump as a backup to the engine driven one. This eliminates that point of contention in the e/h argument.

IIRC I saw some pics of an Aussie's truck with such a set-up.

Ken
 

Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d)
Posted on Friday, January 10, 2003 - 08:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

You could carry a tirfor hand winch for those emergencies when the engine stall.
 

Kyle
Posted on Friday, January 10, 2003 - 08:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Or just get a nice big Electric winch and stop talking about this and that. This subject is talked about over and over and all the same points get brought up. The hydraulic will let you down. Do you really wanna carry more BS in the truck to make up for the hydraulic winch's issues ??

Kyle
 

Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d)
Posted on Friday, January 10, 2003 - 09:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Do you think Dominik could have winched himself out of Water Road, Kyle?
 

Keith Kreutzer (Revor)
Posted on Friday, January 10, 2003 - 10:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I've rebuilt a couple Warn 8274's but never thought the solenoids looked bad enough to replace them. Basic electronics of a contactor... The arc caused buy removing the load cleans the contact so it works well the next time.. I tend to load the contacts up and release them cleaning them by "clicking" in the line once I'm done doing the work at hand. Spool a bit let off, spool a bit and let off. This seems to help keep the contacts clean... I've owned Warn winches for 25 years and never heard the "click,click".. We used them for logging and vehicle recovery. I did however have to replace the solinoids on one after we "accidently" ran into the back of 5 ton Kenworth stake bed that was hauling about a bizillion board feet of logs in front of us! What can i say? A J20 just doesn't have the brakes for logging rally work....
 

Kyle
Posted on Saturday, January 11, 2003 - 10:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Yeah Dean , he could have...

Kyle
 

Kyle
Posted on Saturday, January 11, 2003 - 10:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

To be more specific. He could have rigged so that the nose of the Disco came up as he came forward and the winch would have had to run submerged for a very short period of time. Ax and some others have seen me rig like this a few times to lift the trucks up off of something and its really not a big deal. Its also a practice that becomes pretty regular as you get further and further into places that you really shouldt be.
Findlay may want to comment in this thread as he learned about the hydraulics shot comings first hand on the Dusi when his truck was running a little less then perfect...


Kyle

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