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Zak Ruck (Zak)
| | Posted on Sunday, January 12, 2003 - 01:37 pm: | 
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I was thinking of trying to find a nice older D1, and getting a TDI installed, either at ECR or anywhere else. Does anyone have any idea how much that would run????? I'd like to keep both buying the disco and getting the engine installed to under $12k. Not sure if that is possible, but worth a try.
Thanks,
Zak |
Alan Yim (Alan)
| | Posted on Sunday, January 12, 2003 - 04:16 pm: |
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Zak I've seen others on here quote $18k+ just for a diesel conversion.
A guy here spent $25k putting a vett engine into his Range Rover. |
Zak Ruck (Zak)
| | Posted on Sunday, January 12, 2003 - 05:18 pm: |
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Ouch!!! I did a search on in hte archives and found similar numbers. That sucks!!! I was really hoping to make a disco a nice daily driver with good MPG. Oh well. Just have to get a boring car.  |
Rich Lee
| | Posted on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 02:09 pm: |
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Hi All,
My cousin is currently in the process of "retrofitting" a Peogeot 2.4L Turbodiesel engine and 5 speed •••••• to his 88 Classic Rangie (basically, a non-ABS Disco underneath). He is adding a big intercooler from a Volvo 850 turbo. The peugeot has a torque-tube surrounding the driveshaft as it exits the ••••••.
He is going to shorten the torque tube and put a flange on it that mates with the Rover transfer case. He will then shorten the Peugeot driveshaft and machine a spline that mates with the TC input.
This engine has been used with a lot of success on heavily-laiden 109s in europe, and he has tapped into a lot of expertise in England as to how to tune this engine to run well in Rovers. Supposedly, this was the engine used in earlier European diesel Jeeps.
He's a little eccentric, and loves the smell and rattle of diesels. However, he is also very thoughtful and detail-oriented. He might just pull this off. I'll post his results, if he succeeds.
PS. He bought the Rangie for $2500 with 250k miles (runs and wheels just fine). He bought the engine & trans from a crashed Peugeot (68k miles), that had been "obsessively maintained" for $250. His goal is to have a diesel Range Rover for about $3000 total investment. Hey may just pull it off. |
Greg Davis (Gregdavis)
| | Posted on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 02:15 pm: |
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Rich, please have your cousin take lots of photos. I'd love to see this documented. |
muskyman
| | Posted on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 03:07 pm: |
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the 5 cylinder MB diesel bolts up to a ZF •••••• and is cheap to buy...so whys it gonna cost 25k to put a oil burner in a disco?
yes if you pay somebody 60hr it would cost that much but it sure dosent seam that tough to me???? |
R. B. Bailey (Rover50987)
| | Posted on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 03:28 pm: |
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They use Isuzu Deisels in Austrailia in their Defenders with flat beds in the Army - must be an OK match... Probably get one out of one of those ugly delivery trucks in the U.S.
http://landrover.mrbaileyshistory.net |
Jake Hartley (Jake)
| | Posted on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 04:34 pm: |
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I am with Muskyman: a MB diesel is a good idea. MB diesel beaters are cheap. I have seen them in Series LRs and it is a simple looking install that was basically "one wire" and fuel hookup. It will be a long winter here in MN, maybe I will do some research. |
R. B. Bailey (Rover50987)
| | Posted on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 05:01 pm: |
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Where have you seen the MB? I would like to look into it too, especially if there are photos and any information on "how" "how much" etc...
Discovery OR Series IIa - either would be good.
http://landrover.mrbaileyshistory.net |
James F. Thompson Jaime (Blueboy)
| | Posted on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 05:19 pm: |
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on occassion I've seen a write-up on Jim Young's Series III with a 2.4L MB diesel in it.
he is listed as a participant for the ROXS trip on http://www.roxs.us/
Jaime |
Blue (Bluegill)
| | Posted on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 05:32 pm: |
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nice, nice, and very nice |
Zak Ruck (Zak)
| | Posted on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 05:41 pm: |
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That is an incredible Series III. I've found a few around here for pretty good prices, and wouldn't mind trying to find a MB diesel. So, who wants to come over and help me install an engine????? |
muskyman
| | Posted on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 06:14 pm: |
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if you live within 100 miles of chicago I'd be glad to help with such a noble task |
grant lawson
| | Posted on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 06:20 pm: |
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Just got an Email today from www.britrest.com
he has a 200 TDi auto coming in that a customer backed out of. this guy is very reasonable and in CDN dollars, Tell him i sent you there! |
Jim Young (Mercedesrover)
| | Posted on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 07:07 pm: |
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Thanks for the picture of my truck! That was taken at the top of Mohawk Mt. in North West Ct a couple weeks ago.
The Mercedes 2.4 is a great little engine for the Series. It's dead reliable, great on fuel and can be had very cheap. It doesn't have any more power or speed than the old 2.25 but it's a pretty easy install and can be done by anyone with a little mechanical know-how. You can find more info about it on www.mercedesrover.freeservers.com or you can e-mail me.
Thanks for the plug! |
Matt (Doc175)
| | Posted on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 07:58 pm: |
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When you refer to the "MB" is that the old Jeep/Willys military MB? |
Zak Ruck (Zak)
| | Posted on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 08:29 pm: |
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Jim,
Great ROVER!!! I'm going to have to research this idea a bit more.
Thanks for all the ideas guys, keep them coming!!! |
jerry quintana
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 15, 2003 - 10:57 am: |
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I also checked into the conversion from east coast rovers. they have to change the ••••• and transfer as well as the gear ration in the axles to get the proper power band. They only charge 45 an hour for the swap but figure the price of the engine ••••• and the transfer case alone OUCH. Go to the site below there is alot of info.
One swap that I did see although not in a rover was a simple one into a chevy.The owner used a isuzu cabover Deisel motor and ••••• from one of those delivery trucks it was street legal and had alot of tourque. The owner of the vehicle said it was easier then swaping a chevy motor in one wire hook up is the words he used. Parts are also available in the usa.
http://www.eastcoastrover.com/tdiconversions.html |
John Cinquegrana (Johnc)
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 15, 2003 - 11:08 am: |
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Jim, nice Rover. Hey Zak, it would be nice if we went to CT and Jim showed us his truck and that mountain, wouldn't it?
Zak, I saw a 109 with the MB engine in it here in NY. The guy is from Long Island. I'll get in touch with him and try to get some more info. |
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