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Joey
Posted on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 02:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Has Anyone tried to convert to the new '03 headlights yet. I was just wondering, as I love the new design and have found a website that sells them. It looks like the only thing you would need to buy is the trim piece under the headlight to do the conversion.
 

Al Oliveira (Offroaddisco)
Posted on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 02:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

<--- do a search. I take it you have a D2. D1's won't work.
 

Joey
Posted on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 02:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

mine is a '99 D2. I haven't yet found anyone who has attempted the swap.
 

Rans (Rans)
Posted on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 02:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I'm told you also need a new grill....but I haevn't confirmed that as yet.
 

Gil Stevens (Gil)
Posted on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 03:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

you need alot more than a trim piece, on either a d1 or d2. your looking at roughly $1000 in parts to convert, not including the lights themselves. radiator support, harness, trim piece, grill... the list goes on.
 

Carter Simcoe (Carter)
Posted on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 03:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

damn I wish I had my picture on this computer........ (you guys know which one)

ONCE AGAIN:

If you beat the headlights as hard as this horse has been beaten they are bound to pop in your disco eventually.
 

Gil Stevens (Gil)
Posted on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 03:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

personally.. i dont understand the obsession with these freakin lights. I actually think they border on being quite ugly.
 

Joey
Posted on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 08:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Do you honestly think that LR changed the front end that much (so as the lights will not fit earlier D2's). I don't believe it. Why would they make this many changes when the vehicle is going to be redesigned in another couple years. As far as beating a dead horse, I have only found one other discussion on this website in regards to this conversion. Also, if you think the new headlights are ugly- you must not like the new Range Rover either. Obviously you have no style
 

John Moore (Jmoore)
Posted on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 08:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I agree that most likely they are bolt on if you have the right parts. The lights are nice but fluff. More interested in substance than style. Do they give you more light or a better pattern?
 

Carter Simcoe (Carter)
Posted on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 09:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Oh there have been plenty, now go back under your bridge.
 

Joey
Posted on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 09:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

under my bridge?
 

Carter Simcoe (Carter)
Posted on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 09:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Yes
 

Joey
Posted on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 09:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

lick my ass
 

Carter Simcoe (Carter)
Posted on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 09:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Take a spoon and eat me raw
 

Joey
Posted on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 09:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I'll pass on that one bitch.
 

Carter Simcoe (Carter)
Posted on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 09:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Your loss. Now back under that bridge, troll.
 

Joey
Posted on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 09:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I will try the new headlights and will have the "new" headlights on my '99 D2
 

John Moore (Jmoore)
Posted on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 09:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Let us know if it works. www.northwestparts.com seems to have them for a decent price.
 

Joey
Posted on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 09:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

will do
 

Jack (Jack)
Posted on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 10:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hey, just my opinion, but... screwing around with Lucas? I'm just glad my stock headlights work, no way I'd think about changing them. Rovertym bumper w/ Hella's - worth the time, actually may add value and cost less than than the '03 retrofit. '03 conversion just for looks, no thanks.
 

Sean Hanagan (Seanh)
Posted on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 10:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Do you think if I try hard enough that I can fit those cool ass 03 Disco headlights on my 94 D90? Money is no object.:)

Gil, I'm with you I think those lights look a bit stupid. Why on earth would you want to make any earlier Disco look like the 03? Isn't the (CDL-less) 03 the death of the expeience?
 

Glenn Guinto (Glenn)
Posted on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 10:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

If money is no object, I think I'd fit escalade lights on my 99 D1. bling-bling

-glenn
 

Carter Simcoe (Carter)
Posted on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 10:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

LRM had a add for some new 22" chrome 'dubs'

They should be here any day now asking if they will fit on their D1s.
 

Phillip Perkinson (R0ver4x4)
Posted on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 10:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

22" they are old news. 24" that dont spin now they are the ticket
 

Glenn Guinto (Glenn)
Posted on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 10:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Let's try this...

blingd1

-glenn
 

John Moore (Jmoore)
Posted on Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 07:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

LOVE IT!

-John
 

Greg Davis (Gregdavis)
Posted on Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 09:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

As far as I can tell, it can be done, but you will have to do some fab work. The mounting points are different, but with a little thought it shouldn't be too hard. Let us know how it turns out. But you will need the new trim piece that goes below the headlights. The grill should be OK.
 

John Davies
Posted on Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 10:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

How about the mythical xenons that are available overseas? Any word on them?

Xenons are absolutely terrific, but I don't know how they would hold up to bein submerged......
 

Carter Simcoe (Carter)
Posted on Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 10:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Thats great Glenn
 

Sean Hanagan (Seanh)
Posted on Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 02:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Now that is handsome!
 

Blue (Bluegill)
Posted on Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 06:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

that discoescalade belongs in a circus freakshow.
 

Al Oliveira (Offroaddisco)
Posted on Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 06:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Can't wait to see the rear Discoescalade emblem. There would be no room with the spare mounted in the back. :)
 

Glenn Guinto (Glenn)
Posted on Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 06:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Well, I finally did it!!!! I transformed my unstylish boring Disco into a DISCOLADE!!!! See how stylish it is....

discolade

-glenn
 

danielcovaciu
Posted on Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 07:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Glenn, do take a minute and add some 26 inch rims to the discolade. Post the picture when done.
 

Peter Matusov (Pmatusov)
Posted on Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 07:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

is it me or it looks like the railroad snowplow?
awesome job, Glenn!

peter
 

Joey
Posted on Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 10:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Glenn obviously you have too much time on your hands. As far as this whole '03 headlight thing goes, I think they look much better than the previous headlights. To those of you who do not care what your rovers look like, you're full of shit. If you didn't care what it looked like, then why did you buy it. Also as you said, if you try hard enough you may be able to fit the escalade lights on your D1. I bet if you tried hard enough, you could probably fit them up your ass also.

Joey
'99 D2
ACE w/18" wheels-no 20's or 24's here
 

Carter Simcoe (Carter)
Posted on Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 10:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

"If you didn't care what it looked like, then why did you buy it"

We care about what they can DO (not including get groceries, or act as a status symbol)
 

Joey
Posted on Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 10:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I care about what it can do also. It will take me wherever I want to go. Wether it be to get groceries, to carry my skis or to take a trip. For those of you who wheel in your Rovers, more power to you. I personally have too much invested to go and trash a new vehicle. Anyway, that whole offroading deal gets old after a while. My truck will take me anywhere I want, including the road, where vehicles were intended to go anyway.
 

Carter Simcoe (Carter)
Posted on Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 10:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Go away
 

Glenn Guinto (Glenn)
Posted on Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 10:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Whoa...! I think I struck a nerve here... LOL

Dude, what's wrong with my styling? What's with the hostility? So, you want to fit another headlight to your Disco and post this question on an open board, people express their opinions and you get pissed about it?

Oh and FYI, I think they do look cool (03 lights), but like some of the people here, I also think they are just fluff. Obviously, to each his own so, to quote a famous chinese philosopher..."Just Do It"

-glenn
99D1 with 99D1 Headlights
 

OLIVER CLOTHSOFF (Everythingleaks)
Posted on Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 11:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

"I personally have too much invested to go out and trash a new vehicle"

That is why you buy and off-road truck, so that you have a vehicle that is designed to go off-road and does not tear stuff up. If the driver of a disco has some skill and isn't attempting to follow in the steps of bigfoot then off-roading should not be a problem. Hell, even the dealers are required to stage off-road events at least once a year.

"The whole off-roading thing gets old after a while"

Anyone else have this problem?

" including the road, where vehicles were intended to go anyway."

Sounds like you bought the wrong vehicle. I'm sure most people don't walk up to you and ask how fast it is in the 1/4 mile. That straight axle in the front isn't placed there for killer road manners, it was placed there for strength and articulation. The Land Rover has always had some sacrifices in the on-road department for better off-road use. Your status symbol is actually made to go many places, including OFF-ROAD, where rovers were intended to go anyway.

P.S. How many of your friends drive lowered Acuras with 4" exhaust?
 

michael Tillman
Posted on Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 11:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

DUDE- calm down, it is just a truck that takes you from one place to another that also happens to support terrorist activity by guzzling gas and dripping oil.

the DISS-CO-LADE kicks ass! I can't wait to see it on MTV.
 

Sean Hanagan (Seanh)
Posted on Wednesday, January 15, 2003 - 12:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Joey,
I once saw a post on this board that read " God bless all those with more money than common sense" That seems very fitting right now. BTW if you can't take a little joke than I would lay low if I were you because it only gets worse.
 

Todd W. McLain (Ganryu)
Posted on Wednesday, January 15, 2003 - 12:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

"I personally have too much invested to go out and trash a new vehicle"

Isn't the whole point of off-roading to prove that you have sufficient skill so as NOT to trash the vehicle? (Other than the schmuck in the "Ouch" thread.)

While I love off-roading, I'm sure as hell not going to go around trying something that I know for a fact my Disco can't do just to prove the point that it can't do it.
 

Joey
Posted on Wednesday, January 15, 2003 - 07:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

"P.S. How many of your friends drive lowered Acuras with 4" exhaust?"

First of all, I have no friends with rice burners. As far as cars go, I am into German sports cars (ie. Audi tt, s4, BMW M3) and good old american musclecars. I didn't buy my car for its pimping ability. Its not the car that makes the person anyway.

"That straight axle in the front isn't placed there for killer road manners, it was placed there for strength and articulation. The Land Rover has always had some sacrifices in the on-road department for better off-road use."

If this was the case, why does LR offer the ACE performance package and 18" wheels. For offroad handling? I don't think so. Some of you bought your Rovers for offroading. Others of us bought them for their style, excellent capability in incliment weather, and the occasional offroad stint.

" God bless all those with more money than common sense"

More money than common sense? Its not a money thing here we are arguing about. First of all, this discussion was brought up to query as to the possibilities of upgrading headlights, not making a land rover a gangsta pimp vehicle, like your discolade. I am a 23 year old who just graduated from college almost 2 years ago. I don't have more money than common sense. I just have more commonsense for buying a Rover than the next guy who goes and spends 50K on a escalade or excursion.

"support terrorist activity by guzzling gas and dripping oil."

Again, this an entire different argument. First of all, none of us bought our Land Rovers for economy vehicles. They are gas guzzlers and do have an occasional leak- but no more than any other full size sport utiliy. If you are trying to justify the economics of owning a Rover, you are fighting a fire you will never win.
 

Sean Hanagan (Seanh)
Posted on Wednesday, January 15, 2003 - 10:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Joey,

I don't think ACE is a performance package. I think it's job is to patch a huge hole that is the Disco's on road manners:). We all own them and we all know of their shortcomings. But in spite of that we laugh at our trucks and ourselves. I think that is the spirit of the D web. I said before if your one who takes all this personally than lay low and if your up for it keep playing. Cheers,
Sean
 

Blue (Bluegill)
Posted on Wednesday, January 15, 2003 - 10:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post


Quote:

I think they look much better than the previous headlights. To those of you who do not care what your rovers look like, you're full of shit. If you didn't care what it looked like, then why did you buy it.




There's a fundamental flaw here in your argument Joe - you're assigning objectivity to what is obviously your personal opinion. You like the 03 lights...that's all well and good, but that doesn't mean that the 03 lights are inherently better than the D1 or D2 lights. I personally don't give a flying shit what the headlights look like, as long as they're bright and shiny at night. This board is a FREE, open forum. Lighten up a little and enjoy yourself. Oh, and keep insulting Carter and you'll fit right in on Dweb just fine...

Oh, and if the result of offroading your Rover is a trashed vehicle, then you're a fool.
 

Sean Hanagan (Seanh)
Posted on Wednesday, January 15, 2003 - 11:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Blue,
Did you just call my bud Brian Friend a fool?:)
 

Peter Matusov (Pmatusov)
Posted on Wednesday, January 15, 2003 - 01:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

i dig the '03 headlights - and that may be the only reason for me to buy a '03 disco in some distant future when it depreciates 10x.
Also, i dig double round turning/parking lights, too.

i guess i do give a shit about the headlights - i like the round ones. my '79 jeep gives me goosebumps when i look at it from the front. The disco 1/2 headlights are just plane jane, good and bright, but not given much designer's thought. The rangie's and the '68 jeep's lights are nice, even if they don't illuminate jack shit.

peter
 

cdoug
Posted on Wednesday, January 15, 2003 - 01:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I have a series II disco and I would like to upgrade the headlights to the 2003 model. I think that the new headlights look better and I am sure that they work better as well.

"I don't think ACE is a performance package. I think it's job is to patch a huge hole that is the Disco's on road manners."

The ACE package is in fact a performance package that increases the on-road performance of the disco. after owning a disco I would not own one without that package and I bought my Disco for it's ability to go anywhere although is purpose is to get me where I need to go via paved roads.

I understand where people are saying that the disco is purpose built for "off-road" and I understand where people are saying that it is designed for "on-road" driving. I think that with the disco II revisions and further more '03 revisions the disco is becominng more suited for on road driving with occasional off roading.
 

Blue (Bluegill)
Posted on Wednesday, January 15, 2003 - 01:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post


Quote:

"I don't think ACE is a performance package. I think it's job is to patch a huge hole that is the Disco's on road manners."

The ACE package is in fact a performance package that increases the on-road performance of the disco.




same planet, different worlds
 

Carter Simcoe (Carter)
Posted on Wednesday, January 15, 2003 - 01:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hey, I haven't been THAT bad lately :)
 

Sean Hanagan (Seanh)
Posted on Wednesday, January 15, 2003 - 03:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Amen Blue!
 

Paul Garcia (Odiopus)
Posted on Tuesday, January 21, 2003 - 02:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

By the way.. The Disco '03 headlights, which are indeed made of plastic unlike the Range Rover's glass lenses, will eventually turn yellow because that is what happens to plastic over time. I think they are kind of neat, but I would rather keep my '01 DII glass lenses. If you want the xenon bulbs just get yourself a pair that are low/high beam and made of quartz... Quartz will not burst when submerged in water. I've had mine for a while and waddled in flooded roads several times with no problem. As a matter of fact one of my foglamps has a whole in it and the quarts xenon bulb has never gone out!
 

johnb
Posted on Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 06:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

anyone else noticed a trend of constant change of late? thanks to the morons at ford the disco might become an overpriced exploder.quite sad.just my 2cw.
 

Scott-OZ
Posted on Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 07:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I have had a look at the 03 at the Dealer. I saved 10 grand Aust in getting the second last O2 in Australia, rectangular lights and all. To be quite honest even if the prices were the same, dealing with looks only (the new one has apparantly a better build) I like the 02 better - it is neater and more subtle - that goes for the interior also.

PS. Do I have a car built on a Wednesday? I have now done 4000 miles (like the conversion from Kilometres for my mates in the US) and have done a lot of serious off road work, including 300 miles of VERY badly corrugated road and I have not ONE squeek in the dash or anywhere. The only thing that I have is a barely perceptable flexing sound from the front seats which I think is pretty standard. Am I a one off, because if you are to believe what is written in the Australian motor vehicle reviews (newspapers, Mags etc) all DII's are pox-ridden rattle buckets.

PS. I love my truck.
 

cdoug
Posted on Friday, January 24, 2003 - 05:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Plastic is cheaper to manufacture, cheaper to replace, easier to manufacture with tighter tolerances and the plastic they use today will not turn yellow in a time span that will affect any of us.

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