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Mel A. (Krawlrovr)
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 15, 2003 - 08:15 am: | 
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2400226940&category=31849
If it was built in 1972 it would be a Series II 109", right? So technically, it would be legal. But it seems too good to be true....maybe Overland tours got a new name  ? |
John Cinquegrana (Johnc)
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 15, 2003 - 08:27 am: |
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It's legal in the Netherlands!!! |
muskyman
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 15, 2003 - 09:24 am: |
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location location location |
James F. Thompson Jaime (Blueboy)
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 15, 2003 - 09:29 am: |
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1972/3 would be a Series III so the front would be very similiar to a latter day Defender. the Series 109" and D110 bodies are very close in appearance on the outside as well.
it could be imported and registered as a Series III since it meets the 25 year old criteria.
not much different in concept than with my Series IIa 109 on 110 based running gear with a V8 that is registered/insured as a 1967 LR.
it would have to be a pretty clean starter III to begin with or the cost of restoration would eat up the 27k in itself. This which would raise a red flag to me.
or someone is just using the VIN from a III.
Jaime |
John Cinquegrana (Johnc)
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 15, 2003 - 09:43 am: |
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Excellent Jaime!!! I would think they did a ground up restore of an older Rover and used new body parts and engine.
Now, the problem is that you would have to import the vehicle, therefore making it legal in the US is your responsibility and not the sellers. It's doable and you might not have any problems (as Jaime said "or someone is just using the VIN from a III.")... |
Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 15, 2003 - 10:45 am: |
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FWIW, a '72 SIII doesn't have a VIN, it has a serial number. The difference being, a VIN is coded to include data regarding the vehicle: who built it, where it was built, what engine, what trannie, what body, and a serial number, too. The VIN numbering system wasn't included until some time later on than the early (legally importable) SIII Rovers...
Just something to be aware of.....
-L |
John Cinquegrana (Johnc)
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 15, 2003 - 10:59 am: |
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Thanks for the info Leslie. Does this make it easier to import or does it make no difference?
John |
James F. Thompson Jaime (Blueboy)
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 15, 2003 - 11:06 am: |
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There still would be a risk that you could get caught, yet, if all anyone did was inspect the paperwork it could work.
"As a general rule all motor vehicles imported into the United States that are less than 25 years old must comply with all applicable Federal motor vehicle safety standards (FMVSS)"
from ECR's site:
25 years old or older: Any Land-Rover manufactured 25 years ago or more is exempt from D.O.T. (Department of Transportation) import laws. We assume this is done because the DOT does not want to deal with tons of paperwork on old vehicles, so they have set a rolling 25 year cut off. To import a Rover that was built more than 25 years ago is a simple process and IS LEGAL, a few forms, shipping costs, duty fees and you are Rovering Stateside in your 25 year old classic.
Of course this is for a stock LR.
This is why I just did everything here with a NADA 109 as it was already accepted into the "system".
Camile the Gwagenbabe did a roll on/off with her G-wagen from Germany. she could offer more insight as to how much everything got inspected.
Jaime |
James F. Thompson Jaime (Blueboy)
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 15, 2003 - 11:09 am: |
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yeah good point Leslie. I keep getting those 2 confused.
think its easier with a Serial number as it doesn't have all the coding Leslie brought up associated with it.
Jaime |
Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 15, 2003 - 11:19 am: |
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The problem with the serial number is that most clerks are used to thinking of VIN numbers, so, it throws them off, but, overall, it "should" be easier to use just a serial number, as it would be a reinforcement of the mental image that "this is an OLD vehicle".....
-L |
James F. Thompson Jaime (Blueboy)
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 15, 2003 - 11:26 am: |
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it certainly throw off the registration folks here in OK. when I went to get a title/license plate for the 109!
took 5 attempts as it never had a title. it was an old Maine truck, so all it had was a registration paper and that was out dated.
just gotta love unpopulated & fairly unregulated States.
Jaime |
Alex Moore
| | Posted on Thursday, January 16, 2003 - 08:03 pm: |
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Camille told me that there are two places (one in New York and one in D.C.) where they will do a full federalization for you. and it only costs a grand. I don't know much more on the subject of importing a car than that.
Someone I know is importing a Nissan Skyline (ugh) from Japan through eBay that he bought on eBay. (i don't understand) but he said they will do it for a grand too.
Alex |
Jaime (Blueboy)
| | Posted on Friday, January 17, 2003 - 10:19 am: |
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there is a complete list of NHSTA registered importers here:
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/import/RIlist_01072003.html
they are all over the US.
Jaime |
Mel A. (Krawlrovr)
| | Posted on Friday, January 17, 2003 - 06:59 pm: |
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Hmmm...so what other hidden costs are there besides shipping and fereralizing? If the car is federalized, then any state SHOULD accept it as 1972 Series III? Also, how reliable is the TD5 engine? |
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