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Tom Newhouse
| | Posted on Thursday, January 16, 2003 - 03:39 pm: | 
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Has anyone used this on their RR? I have a 98 RR and thinking of buying one. I wonder if it's going to cause any fuel mixture problems which could lead to "check engine" light coming on (oxygen sensor malfunction).
Any thoughts?
RR Fan! |
GregH
| | Posted on Thursday, January 16, 2003 - 04:08 pm: |
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I'm going to buy one of those as soon as I can put on my copper bracelet and magnetic shoe inserts...
GregH |
Jason Vance (Jason)
| | Posted on Thursday, January 16, 2003 - 04:21 pm: |
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Think about it...
if the Tornado could somehow create a vortex of air that enabled the fuel to mix more thoroughly, that vortex would be gone by the time the air hit the plenum: going from a high air-speed through a narrow tube, then slowing down after hitting an open volume of space where it changes direction down one of 8 very narrow tubes. The fuel doesn't mix with the air until it is about 2.5-3 inches from the valve. The air has changed directions and speeds so many times that there is no possible way a vortex elicited by the Tornado would still be around by the time it gets to the injector.
BTW, I believe the whole vortex idea is a joke. I have seen Tornado use, on commercials and at SEMA, the water in a 2-liter bottle demonstration. They have water in a 2-liter bottle and another bottle attached to the spout (end to end). When you turn it over and let the water drain into the other bottle, it "glugs," and empties slowly. But when you spin the bottle to produce a vortex in the water, it drains much faster. That's the "theory" of how the Tornado works. But it's a crock. It works for the bottle of water because air from the empty bottle must enter the filled bottle to displace the water (that's why it "glugs" if just tipped over). By spinning it, the vortex allows air to enter the filled bottle in the middle of the water's flow while the water vortices down into the empty bottle. A car isn't a closed system like the water/bottle demonstration, it's a one-way open system. Nothing has to flow back towards the intake from the engine to allow air to get to the engine. Air goes in one end and out the other and a vortex formed at one end doesn't stay intact as the air is split into the 8 different directions your engine requires, therefor not improving air-flow or fuel-atomization/mixture. |
tornadostockowner
| | Posted on Thursday, January 16, 2003 - 08:06 pm: |
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I have one in every car I own they are great the rover feels like a muscle car now and gets about 22 miles per gallon. |
-bob- (Xavetarx)
| | Posted on Thursday, January 16, 2003 - 08:50 pm: |
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i put one in my rover, and it gets 58.73 mpg on 85 octane!!! WEEEEEEEEEEE
*wakes up* |
TryingToBeJust
| | Posted on Thursday, January 16, 2003 - 09:50 pm: |
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you guys are bashing a quality product that none of us ever tried. is it another hearsay thing? |
Jason Vance (Jason)
| | Posted on Thursday, January 16, 2003 - 10:48 pm: |
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I gave you an explanation. If you can provide evidence otherwise without using Tornado-supplied sales propoganda, then do it. I won't use it because the principles they claim and demonstrate are not sound nor applicable.
Go ahead and buy one...but you'd be better off just sending the money to me 'cuz your Rover will run the same and at least I'd be happier! |
Carter Simcoe (Carter)
| | Posted on Thursday, January 16, 2003 - 10:57 pm: |
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FWIW, I have seen a few people on this board report their results after trying this thing and nobody noticed anything. |
GregH
| | Posted on Thursday, January 16, 2003 - 11:09 pm: |
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For more "quality" products (including Tornado Fuel Saver) go here- www.seenontv.com 
GregH |
Todd W. McLain (Ganryu)
| | Posted on Thursday, January 16, 2003 - 11:18 pm: |
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If it was such a great thing, would the auto industry have been putting them on vehicles a long time ago? |
Jason Vance (Jason)
| | Posted on Friday, January 17, 2003 - 02:18 am: |
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Jaime (Blueboy)
| | Posted on Friday, January 17, 2003 - 10:02 am: |
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naw - remember its a conspiracy with the oil industry and car manufactures to prevent these great ideas from being implemented on a large scale.
Jaime |
TryingToBeJust
| | Posted on Friday, January 17, 2003 - 12:20 pm: |
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i don't know - i never bought one, but on the photo it looks like it is well-made, and there is plenty of fleet operator's positive reports. are they lying, or it is all made up? |
GregH
| | Posted on Friday, January 17, 2003 - 12:53 pm: |
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Buy it!
GregH |
Jaime (Blueboy)
| | Posted on Friday, January 17, 2003 - 01:23 pm: |
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yeah - in the infamous words of D-Web:
just do it!
Jaime |
Jason Vance (Jason)
| | Posted on Saturday, January 18, 2003 - 01:47 pm: |
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Just buy it...
and when you report back with your MPG results, be sure to detail your driving habits, average temperatures, average wind speeds relative to driving direction, vertical feet climbed/descended, average speeds and gear in which the speeds were driven, average payload, total time spent idling in traffic or driving less than 5 mph, total number of times the engine was started, total miles driven in reverse, grade of gasoline, etc. etc.
Did any of the testimonials report any of the above? Because they can all affect MPG more than an overpriced piece of spot-welded metal can. Get it? |
Craig Alexander (Craig89rr)
| | Posted on Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 02:13 pm: |
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I think it came from the "grassy knoll" |
Pugsly (Pugsly)
| | Posted on Friday, January 24, 2003 - 10:10 am: |
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This is the real source to go to for all those performance parts:
http://www.kalecoauto.com/perf.htm |
GregH
| | Posted on Friday, January 24, 2003 - 10:26 am: |
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That's hilarious Pugsly! The sad thing is that they probably get people trying to buy those prods-
GregH |
Pugsly (Pugsly)
| | Posted on Friday, January 24, 2003 - 10:51 am: |
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I was just thinking - maybe we should make a Tornado for the crankcase oil and for the coolant. I bet it would make all those overheating problems go away, due to the increased efficiency!
And imagine the extended engine life - you might only have to do oil changes every 20k miles! |
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