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lino palumbo
Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2003 - 12:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I just came back from a flight and tried to start the beast after it sat in the parking lot for 6 hours and it did not start. Battery seems to be ok and i boosted also, it turns over and it seems to fire but won't catch. i live in Montreal and its been cold, but it always started.I will try tomorrow but i need suggestions please.
Lino
 

Mark & Bev Preston (Markp)
Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2003 - 10:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Lino,

The fact that it turns over and your statement that "it seems to fire but won't catch" tells me that you have spark but the wrong air/fuel mixture for it to start. I'm wondering if you don't have a frozen fuel line? Do you hear the fuel pump? The only way I know to resolve that is to get the vehicle to a warm area and thaw out the fuel lines. Then add something like Heet to clean out the moisture in the system. The other possibility is the stepper motor/butterfly linkage is sticking. Try moving it around and then trying to start it.

- Mark
 

Rob Davison (Pokerob)
Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2003 - 11:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

i just went thru this.

you need to make sure you are getting fuel. once that is confirmed make sure you are getting spark.


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lino palumbo
Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2003 - 03:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Thanks Guys, its suppose to warm up. I will try it tomorrow.
 

Alan Yim (Alan)
Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2003 - 11:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Ya, gasline antifreeze is a good thing. I'm almost willing to bet that's your problem. Maybe keep a couple bottles in your truck and toss one in every time it gets that cold or fill up with Petro Canada fuel. It comes with gasline antifreeze in it so you don't have to worry about that problem.
 

muskyman
Posted on Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 10:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

go rent a propane fired turbo heater at your local rental place fire it up and aim it under the truck for a hour then try to start it.

you can use the kerosene ones to but you will need a power inverter to run it as well because they need AC power as well as fuel

the tow truck guys carry these in really cold places as a matter of course.

make sure the nose of it is well under the truck from the front or it may melt your air dam.
 

Lino
Posted on Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 06:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I pulled the plugs and they were wet, I dried them put them back and still no start..... I tried to dry and clean them (wet) I give up... what else can I do. It was -15c today. I amm working for the next few days so i will have to see. I think i flooded the truck now. I still don't want to call the flatbed, should I try heat and change plugs and dry the inside of the cyl.?

Thanks
Lino ( Coooold)
 

muskyman
Posted on Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 07:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

air/fuel/compression/spark

i will assume air and compression

you say you have fuel

got spark?

wet is often a sign of no spark
 

lino palumbo
Posted on Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 08:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

got lots of fuel, looks like it wants to fire, you hear it firing a couple of times.
 

mark lutz
Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 06:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I had the same problem twice now...both times cold weather.

I pulled the plugs cleaned them...

Warmed them with a propane torch before reinstalling...

I also let the engine sit for about 3 hours with the plugs out to make sure the gas evaporated off...

Turn the key to position I but don't start the vehicle....you should hear the fuel pump kick in...

Gas to the floor for 1 minute turn the key to start and don't take foot off the gas until you blow out all the bad stuff..

There is a service bulletin out about running light oil in cold temps due to a flooding issue.

http://www.atlanticbritish.com/techtips_main.html

Hard Starting - Cold Weather - Troubleshooting
Vehicle - Range Rover, Land Rover Defender, Discovery

There is a service bulletin circulating at the Range Rover Dealers that you should know about. It suggests that you consider placing 5W-40W oil in your vehicle if you live in a cold climate. This will allow the starter to turn faster and help eliminate flooding problems in cold start situations. Move back to a 10W-40 or 20W-50 in warmer climates and in the summer.

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