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carl_kps
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2003 - 12:35 pm: | 
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I just had my third idler Pully go up in my D2. Has anyone had the same trouble? Does anyone know what the cause of this is? |
Jack (Jack)
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2003 - 05:11 pm: |
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Carl,
My first one was replaced around 15K, now with 24K it sounds like #2 is going again on my 2001 DII. I won't have it checked for a while (I'm 70 miles from the dealer), but the bearing(s) are sounding pretty noisy. Other than LR sourcing a part that wasn't up to spec during the original build, I can't imagine why this relatively simple part would fail again.
Anyone else know anything?
Jack |
Carl_kps
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2003 - 05:39 pm: |
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Jack,
I took it to the shop, (I am only about 10 miles from dealership) and I let them know that this was my third idler pulley to go. I should have it back tomorrow. I will make sure to ask them about the cause of the break down of the pulley. |
Erik G. Burrows (Erik)
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2003 - 06:34 pm: |
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I've noticed a oscilating noise and movement from one of the pullies(sp?) on my '00 DII. How can one identify if a pully/pully bearing is on it's way out? |
OLIVER CLOTHSOFF (Everythingleaks)
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2003 - 08:16 pm: |
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The RH idler pulley tends to create this noise. If you look at the pulley the belt actually wears the plastic out. I haven't seen one come apart but they do get louder. The LH side is a different story though, before the recall they used to fly apart and do some damage. |
todd slater (Toddslater)
| | Posted on Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 10:02 am: |
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Been through 2,about the same mileages Jack quoted. At 40k now all seems quiet and knocking on wood. |
Carl_kps
| | Posted on Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 12:32 pm: |
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My pullys went on my D2 at about 20k, 40k, and 60k. |
Kim S (Roverine)
| | Posted on Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 01:39 pm: |
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Interesting about the idler pulley. What timing - I just had my idler pulley replaced yesterday ('01 D2, 17k miles). I noticed it getting noisier about 700 miles ago, just didn't have time to bring it in over the holidays. I had to bring it in Tuesday after weekend offroad fandango. My rear drive shaft coupling was shredded. So, I had the rear prop shaft/drive shaft coupler and bushing replaced as well.
Carl, please excuse me for throwing this in the mix, but I had another question for D2 owners: Anyone else had problems with the rear coupler? (is it the same thing as rotoflex?) I was told by my mechanic that the rubber rear coupler in the D2 meant to reduce driveline shock should be running completely flat. I have a mild lift (maybe 2" max). I have spacers to with tricked SLS and am running OME HD shocks all around with OME HD springs up front (ARB bumper). He said it might have been wearing from the lift. Once again I think this goes to the U joint set up on the D2's as well ... I asked him what I could do in the future about this. He suggested installing some sort of double U joint drive shaft (having one made) with greasable U joints. Sorry for the long ramble, & throwing this in the mix, just wanted to compare notes with other D2's.
Thanks,
Kim |
Carl_kps
| | Posted on Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 01:54 pm: |
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Kim,
I also had my U-Joint go also. I do know that it was the rear U-Joint but I am not sure if it was the Rotoflex because it just went while I was on the road and complete broke apart. I know it did cause a whole mess of problems but it was all covered under warrenty. (I am going to replace my new U-joints the greaseable U joints when it get it gets warmer. I think they sell them at NAPA). |
Jack (Jack)
| | Posted on Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 08:19 pm: |
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Carl,
Was the third covered under warranty? If not, how bad was the $$$damage?
Jack |
OLIVER CLOTHSOFF (Everythingleaks)
| | Posted on Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 08:38 pm: |
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I know the front and rear pinion seals are the same in the diffs. I'm not sure if the diffs are different though. You may be able to install a front diff flange on the rear and run a D1 driveshaft. I know the wheelbase is the same but you would have to measure both shafts to be sure.
The tech was right, the rubber couplers do not take lift well. It also eats the bushing in the driveshaft up pretty quick. Another "live and don't learn" for rover. They had vibration problems in the D1 with the coupler so they went to a u-joint setup. The D2 comes out and it has a vibration problem from the same setup. Go figure |
Michael Noe (Noee)
| | Posted on Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 09:12 pm: |
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99 D2: I had my LH pulley replaced due to recall. It literally failed the day we received the recall letter. This was at about 5K miles. The RH pulley was replaced at about 15K miles and now the RH pulley is going bad again (loud whining sound).
FWIW, I have OME HD lift for about 18 months now and my rotoflex is still okay and my u-joints are tight and look great (no vibes yet). I grease them often and when it warms a bit will replace the DC DS units on the front with Spicers. |
Kim S (Roverine)
| | Posted on Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 09:20 pm: |
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LOL, yeah "Oliver", I know ... I just hope I'm "living and learning" ... 
Michael, please forgive my ignorance, but how do you grease your U joints? (I thought they were"ungreasable"?) |
Carl_kps
| | Posted on Friday, January 24, 2003 - 07:18 am: |
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Kim,
My rear U_joint went while I was driving. The rear U-Joint came apart at highway speed and hit the tramsmission and cracked it. Luckly it was all under warrenty and Land Rover paid for it. (I got new transmission, they paid for rental and gave me loaner, and even a new battery and starter). |
Michael Noe (Noee)
| | Posted on Friday, January 24, 2003 - 08:35 am: |
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Well, the rear DS has two zerks, one on the shaft, one in u-joint. Front DS has two zerks up front, one in the u-joint one on the shaft(remove grub screw first). The front DC at the t-case is unfortunately sealed for life, hence the need for replacement units, of course, that one can't be lubed without dismantling it. |
Kent Westbrook (Kentwest)
| | Posted on Friday, January 24, 2003 - 01:42 pm: |
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I'm on my fourth idler pulley. First replaced under recall, and the replacement went about a week later; third replaced after a few weeks of the whining sound Michael N. mentioned.
Kim, you mentioned spacers and SLS; do you mean spacers under the SLS airbags? I need to do that too, wondered how hard a job it was.
kent |
Kim S (Roverine)
| | Posted on Friday, January 24, 2003 - 03:51 pm: |
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Kent, Here is the current set up (the spacer was fabbed from a part of someone's old bumper). I have to tell you, it's not the ultimate solution (I think for us, ultimately getting rid of the air bags altogether is). I wasn't there for the fabrication and install, so best to let my hubby Greg explain it when he is in. We would like to see if we can fit a different spacer set up in it so that the airbags are not running over inflated at all times. May try Rovertym for the spacers. |
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