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Author Message   Jason Vance (Jason) Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 12:24 am:    (see image below...) Who in their right mind hacked this up? It looks like a 130 crewcab, but there's a big 'ol cargo box on the back. WTF??? And what's that on the roof? A Yakima cargo carrier...to complement the ice-cream truck box on the back? A little Good-Humor... The top of the hood screams Duplicolor rattle-can truck bed liner. And to top it off, unless my eyesight fools me, the 130" wheelbase looks a little stretched. When it gets stuck on a rock or breaks a shaft, I'll tip my hat, crack a beer, and laugh. I swear...somebody was whacked up on 'ludes.   Ron Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 12:26 am:    Humm, Ya . . . yup . . . complete hack job Ron   Jason Vance (Jason) Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 12:34 am:    (yep...I'm a moron)   Jason Vance (Jason) Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 12:35 am:    Oh, and notice the little smokey behind the ARB!   Jason Vance (Jason) Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 12:44 am:    And somebody is telling me it's powered by a Chevy...ackkkk. Well, at least Lucas isn't around to haunt the poor owner...I can't imagine whoever built would go through the trouble of leaving the stock electrics in.   Ron Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 01:00 am:    "(yep...I'm a moron)" LOL, yep, yes you are. Ron   Jason Vance (Jason) Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 02:48 am:    Woo hoo...somebody agrees with me!   Rover Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 03:41 am:    Actually that 'Yakima Rack' is a AC unit for the cab, and that ice cream box holds a lot of gear...not to mention the owner now has a reliable power train and if memory serves its a 145 wheelbase. Its far from a hack job, the amount of time and effort put into this rover goes alot farther than any I have seen here.   Jason Vance (Jason) Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 04:50 am:    It's a little more than AC...I've heard it also serves as a broiler for the occupants! Galvanized chassis (130 stretched to 145), 350 SBC, some pretty custom axles and brakes, nice candy-striping on the rear drive shaft The crawl-ratio is up there, too...something like 80+:1 (I can't remember). I can't get all the details right, it's not my rig...but yes, you are very correct...it is very far from a hack-job, and the details would blow anybody's mind. I still can't get over it every time I see it...it's like looking at somebody's Ferrari sitting in their driveway; maybe not your idea of "exotic," but the idea of ever seeing only "one" of these is cool.   Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 07:34 am:    I like it. Hack job or not, this individual put a truck together that he likes and did a good job doing it. Looks like you could live in that thing for months! That rear storage unit could hold enough camping gear, truck parts, spare petrol, a big ass Engel and the top is perfect for a tent. Whoever this person is.....Good Job.   Erik Olson (Jon) Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 10:55 am:    Nice rig - looks well executed to me. I'd think long and hard if given the choice between that rig and a stocker 130 with pick-up option. Any more pictures of it anywhere? e   Carter Simcoe (Carter) Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 12:04 pm:    Looks good to me. I think the owner hangs out on the POR board   muskyman Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 12:22 pm:    I think that truck is totaly cool jason lets see your rides lets see what you have bolted togather i'm with with ron..your a moron mike lookin sweet!   Jeremy Katka (Jkatka) Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 12:52 pm:    Jason, Its one thing to hack something up. It is a totally diffrent thing to build something from the ground up. This rig was built from the ground up. The owner could think about what would serve his needs best. There was alot of fabrication that went into this truck. The truck was built for a specific purpose and that explains the rear cab. I look up to Mike. He put in a lot of blood sweat and tears and built a rig that meets his needs.   Jason Vance (Jason) Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 01:23 pm:    Read all of my posts, guys. Yeah, I'll post a few pics of my rigs. Soon.   Jason Vance (Jason) Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 01:32 pm:    My bone stock '95 Disco. Oh yeah, I've upgraded the stereo (woo hoo), it's running those pop-off Rancho shocks, and for an added touch, I haven't washed it since October of last year.   Jason Vance (Jason) Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 01:35 pm:    My 1983 RRC, on 238/85r16's, it's getting 1" spacers in the back, OME 751's in the front, and some Rancho long-travel deals I bought from a certain somebody in Las Vegas. Those will be on as soon as I swap the rear axle out (it uses the older style passenger-side shock facing towards the rear...my new shock mounts don't jive with that geometry). Oh, yeah...that rear axle is coming from somebody in Vegas, too.   Jason Vance (Jason) Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 01:35 pm:      Jason Vance (Jason) Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 01:38 pm:    Wait...there's more! What's this under the hood? That doesn't look like a carb to me. Also, kudos to a certain Las Vegas compadre   Jason Vance (Jason) Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 01:41 pm:    And thinking I just might need this, some on-board air, ready for plumbing. I mean, when you look at my RRC, you can only conclude the custom 130 above is a POS   Simon Harding Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 01:55 pm:    That rig is not intended as a gonzo offroader/ rockcrawler. I would describe it as intended to be a support rig for exteneded overland trips. The owner is aware of its limitations and was aware of them when he conceived the project. It is an excellent execution. It has the benefit of being reliably, inexpensively and adequately powered (versus having a rover engine....). The owner has several other very nice rovers. I suppose he could post here to defend himself, but he might not want to lower himself. Its funny that posting a pic and then talking trash passes for a :technical discussion" here. I don;t profess to know enough to participate in a real "technical discussion" about drivetrain suspension, brakes or steering, but I do know that this is no technical discussion. Its the typical Dwe(e)b stuff. Sounds like a case of envy or poor self esteem (maybe both?) to me. Reading your reply will provide me endless amusement. I await it with bated breath. Later Simon Harding   Jason Vance (Jason) Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 02:03 pm:    Kinda like how your right hand provides you endless amusement. Why don't you read each post I have made in this thread (like the 9th one from the top), and maybe you can figure it out.   Jeremy Katka (Jkatka) Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 02:07 pm:    Jason, Didn't know you knew Mike. It sure seemed like your 1st few posts where flame bait. Nice '83 seems like it will be an intresting project. Any plans for the Disco? JK   Jason Vance (Jason) Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 02:15 pm:    The 1st few posts were flame bait (I'll leave it at that...) But I was no match for you! Y'all saw through it...especially since that pic is way too nice. No plans for the Disco; my wife drives it and until it's paid off, it won't see much trail action. That's what the RRC is for.   Simon Harding Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 02:59 pm:    Ooooohh,, that particular taunt really hurt my feelings, about 25 years ago. Actually, I (used to) use my left hand. Now, being a grown up, I have kind of lost interest in self gratification. You are clearly superior to me in that department - even able to find ways to do gratify yourself on the web. So impressive! Flame bait ..... pretty pathetic IMO. speaking of hands, you obviously have too much on yours. Got anything productive you could be doing? SFBs. Simon   Michael Slade Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 03:28 pm:    Guys guys guys, I have to fess up. I put Jason up to it. In my own juvenile search for self gratification (right handed here), I asked him to toss up a pic and get the concencus on the D-web. Simon, Jason, Musky, thanks for the kind words. I shouldn't be so petty and vain looking for strokes to my ego...but I did it anyway. Apologies to Jason Vance. He's been a good friend, and I probably shouldn't have put him up to it. Oh well, we're partners in crime I suspect. Anyway, that 4.2 plenum is on his *cough cough* 3.5 motor. The 4.2 plenum and harness came out of my RR. He had it out of my truck, onto his '83, and running within 48 hours (maybe less). Jason earns my respect to not being a 'bolt on bob'. Sadly, I drug him into a petty fishing expedition trying to elicit comments about my truck from D-webbers. I honestly do appreciate this board, sometimes for the gratuitous humor that it provides, sometimes for making me think and re-think my objectives/ideas, and sometimes for the occasional nugget of wisdom. Lurk here I may, and I know the cross-lurking goes on too, so to each his own board I s'pose. Again, sorry to those who got drug into this unawares, sorry to Jason for putting him up to it (not in a 'truth-or-dare' kind of way...), and thanks for the kind words from people I both know and don't know. Back to lurking, flame suit on, ass in the air ready for a spankin'. :flipoff2: Michael Slade   Jason Vance (Jason) Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 04:18 pm:    Dammit, Mike! There goes my 3.5 in wolf's clothing.   thom mathie (Muskyman) Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 05:47 pm:    3.5 3.9 4.0 4.2 4.6? seams to not matter they all look like this underneath Micheal, your truck is looking awsome! glad to see the project has come togather as you invisioned. with Jasons post I kinda felt the bait being dangled but then again with a name like muskyman i should be an expert on bait. I hope to see your truck up close some day after lurking and hearing about it step by step it would be fun to check it all out up close. thom   Jason Vance (Jason) Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 05:55 pm:    .   Jason Vance (Jason) Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 05:56 pm:    Good catch Thom... actually, most of that was left by my now ex-neighbor...he owned both a Caddy and a Buick that leaked like sieves. Both leaked oil and the Caddy would spew ATF. He left 3 parking spaces absolutely thrashed (just like this one...all the way up to the curb): Not that it doesn't leak...I did leave a drip or two on Slade's driveway Thursday. It's only been running since last week (since I've owned it) and garaged most of the time, so little, if any, of what your seeing is from my POS.   muskyman Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 05:59 pm:    Jason, well i gota say I love the color, you see so few rrc's with coniston paint...want proof that I love that color check out the water fording thread thats coniston olive green on my scout. thom   Jason Vance (Jason) Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 06:48 pm:    The paint and body is in fairly good condition with respect to its age. Michael wants me to polish and wax it up...we'll see. Personally, I prefer to see it dirty and dinged up, but I'll make a mall-cruiser out of it yet!   Carter Simcoe (Carter) Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 07:24 pm:    Back to the 110: Forget the idea of putting a tent on the roof of "the box", just build a nice roof rack on the top and attach some fold out cots to the walls inside. I could use that truck for so many things it isn't funny. Got any more pics of it Michael? What is inside of that thing right now and what do you plan on doing with it (if it isn't all done already)?   Michael Slade Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 07:51 pm:    Well, since you asked... The simple explanation for that truck's existance is it's going to be my work truck for my next business venture. For more info on *that*, go to: www.tawayama.com I don't have a page about the CrewCab up yet, I'm debating if I want to create a whole write-up like I did with the Serious One or not. Kind of don't want to, kind of do....you know? Interior of the box is just very plain, 2 levels of shelving on 3 sides. Dual batteries in the rear, and a mount for a small 2 gal. propane tank. Front seats are Corbeau with a Tuffy mounted between them. Seats are moved back, the position similar to if a stock D90/110 has the seat extention rails installed. Dash is all custom, nothing of the original dash remains. Floorboards, center tunnel, seatframe are all custom. Rear seat has yet TBD. I have some contacts at some manufacturers (Lear, namely), and am trying to secure a VW Eurovan bench seat to modify and install. The idea is to have seating for 2, possibly 3 (with the thought that the 2 in the rear could stretch out and be really comfortable). I had *thought* about duplicating the Corbeau's in the rear with a second Tuffy, but it just doesn't seem right. I'd like to be able to have 5 people in that thing if I needed it, rather than be stuck to just 4. Top of the box isn't really constructed to have any kind of a rack on it. I have lifting rings bolted to the top of the box that could serve to tie big bulky light things down (tarps, whatever), but I don't want to get the dang thing too tall (yeah, right!). I have a rack planned for the cab section that will surround the AC/heater unit to both protect it and hide it. ARB snorkel is also in the works (plumbing it might be a trick). It's locked front and back, with the 2wd/4wd LT-230. It also has lockout front hubs, which we had to basically custom build a front axle to allow the use of the hubs. Pics? I have so many it's hard to pick and choose which ones to post. I have a few of them in the D-90.com page under my bio. The pics of it on that site are pretty old. Chris VonC. has told me he'll update it pretty soon. I've sent him a few more recent shots of it. Actually did some pretty good rockcrawling with it in Death Valley last weekend. Put it through it's paces, that's for sure. I'm not saying I'll take it through Upper Helldorado (BTDT...), but it'll go just about anywhere else I want to point it. Again, thanks for the kind words. Hey, here's a question: Does anyone running the Equal tire balancer run it on tires that have already been balanced? I have 255/85/16 Dunlop Mud Rovers on the CrewCab, and I'm pretty sure I've lost a weight or two. Kind of been thinking I should call Ho and order some of it. I was also wondering how it behaves on rough washboard roads, because that terrain would basically simulate a tire being out of balance??? I wonder if you ran enough of it, if it would smooth out uneven roads! Anyway, enough rambling.... Michael   Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 08:00 pm:    Michael, That is one bad ass ride dude.   Carter Simcoe (Carter) Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 08:59 pm:    I'm about to try running it on tires that have already been balanced, I'll let you know in a week or so what happens.   Max Thomason (Lrmax) Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 09:12 pm:    Michael, I must admit, this is a very nice purpose built truck. I think it truly brings out the best in a Land Rover just because it has one specific mission and it was built to fulfill that role. Personally, I have no use for such a machine but it is a very nice example indeed. Quick question: What kind of AC/heater unit is that? I am thinking of getting a hardtop for my Series 3 109 and having AC/heater deal would be great. Thanks. Max T.   Jason Vance (Jason) Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 09:47 pm:    Aside from all of the flaming/baiting, we learned Simon used to be a lefty, and Mike has a super sweet rig. Now if Mike can get those sliders galvanized...(somebody please take them to Phoeniz!)   Michael Slade Posted on Sunday, January 26, 2003 - 01:09 am:    Jason, The Cheap Bastard in me was coming through today....I was eyeing those cans of Silver Grey Hammerite a little too longingly....I'm the proud owner of the longest and shortest rock-sliders in America. Will that get me some kind of prize???? Hehe. Max, The unit I have is from RedDot. They have a gazillion different models, check out their site and see what you think. Go to your local dealer and get a catalog. You'll spend HOURS perusing and measuring to figure out what you're going to want to use. Feel free to e-mail when you get close or have specific questions. I feel like I could be a dealer now that I know what I know. Carter, I'm very interested to see what you find. I might have to take the truck in and have the tires re-balanced anyway. I have to drive to SLC next weekend for the outdoorretailer.com winter show.   Kyle Posted on Sunday, January 26, 2003 - 11:11 am:    From what I see Slade it pretty much depends on the tires. It seems the Cheapos that got way out of balance wont come back in with the equal. I actually dig that big bitch aside from the chosen powerplant. The box needs something though. Its just too damn plain. Not like a big roll up ice cream door on the side but some kind of vents or windows somewhere. The damn thing has to be like an oven in the desert. Kyle   R. B. Bailey (Rover50987) Posted on Sunday, January 26, 2003 - 12:46 pm:    I think it looks pretty sweet! Looks like you used Legos for the rear box, but whatever suits you. I suppose it all serves a purpose for your work, and that's what makes it good. But if you were just trying to make it look cool - you suck! (I wish I had the money to make a Defender.) http://landrover.mrbaileyshistory.net   Michael Slade Posted on Sunday, January 26, 2003 - 12:55 pm:    Kyle, These tires probably have less than 3000 miles on them and aren't that worn yet. They do have a little chewing on the corners of the lugs, but not too bad. I was just wondering if others have done the Equal with traditional weights and what their experience has been. I have heard that once a tire gets a bad wear pattern on it, either from mis-alignment or whatever, that it's almost impossible to stop the bad wear pattern. Is that what you're talking about? I'm kind of waiting holding my breath for Carter's response about the Equal. The big box, yeah, it does look kind of plain. I was debating windows, vents, something, but have settled on just having running lights along the top edge front and back. The idea with the plain box is that I will show slides of my work, do instructional presentations, etc...at night on the side of the box, and also I will have clients that wish to bring their own work to show on the box as well. I have some logo decals for the rear box door and the front doors too. I kind of like the truck plain white, but need to put some signage on it soon. When I had the truck painted I told them specifically to NOT paint the roof. I wanted it to be as reflective as it could be, desert and all right? I might have to put some kind of fresh-air vent in it later when it gets 115 deg. out here though. I don't plan on offering trips anywhere during the death throws of summer, so the box heat actually shouldn't be an issue. But...time will tell. I got a LOT of stares in Death Valley last week, and I'm figureing that if people are going to stare anyway they might as well stare at my logo eh? I knew I would have to put them on, but I'm kind of anti-sticker, so I have been hesitant. The time has come however. Powerplant? Hmmmm, that's a decision that I won't know if I made the right one until I've run it for a while. I initially was going between diesel/gas, but decided I didn't want the equipment and chuckwagon to smell like diesel fumes. Also, I didn't like the idea of having to carry two types of fuel (I'm running 2 Range Rovers in the fleet also). So, even though I do kind of like a lot of things about diesels, it was eliminated early. That leaves gasoline engines. I thought doing a Ford powerplant would be kind of 'cute' now that LR is owned by Ford, but Timm talked me out of that. He is convinced that the bang for the buck is maximized with Chevy small-blocks. I've got just over 2K into that 350, mild plain jane motor, Q-jet, nothing fancy, but rebuilt with new everything, balanced and blueprinted. I have a twin of it sitting on a palette wrapped in plastic should it puke it's guts. So, for just over 4K I have 2 350's. For 4 grand I'd just get a rebuild on a Rover V8, so we eliminated the Rover powerplant way early (actually that decision was made when we were building the Serious One). Just out of curiosities sake, what would you have chosen? I honestly looked into Propane and LPG conversions for the Chevy, but it's just not feasable for the way I want to drive them. I'm looking forward to the day I can pull out the engines and put in a Mr. Fusion. Michael   Joshua Weinstein (Untrakd) Posted on Sunday, January 26, 2003 - 01:08 pm:    Dear god, slade has made his way over here. Now what will become of this place! HAAAAAAAAAAAAA   Michael Slade Posted on Sunday, January 26, 2003 - 01:15 pm:    :flipoff2:   Michael Slade Posted on Sunday, January 26, 2003 - 01:17 pm:    Nono, I promise that once th CrewCab thread has run it's course, I'll go back to lurking.   Joshua Weinstein (Untrakd) Posted on Sunday, January 26, 2003 - 01:40 pm:    too bad that pirate flipoff doesnt work on this board!   Kyle Posted on Sunday, January 26, 2003 - 04:22 pm:    I would have actually gone with the Ford. The 351W really cant be beat and I mean that in every sense of the word. Having been around small block chevys 's and Fords for years and years I found that (Contrary to popular belief) the Chevy small blocks just dont stand up to as much use/abuse as the 351W Ford. In a perfect world under perfect circumstances I think one is just as good as the other , however , we arent introducing them to that kind of world. A Windsor motor with the right set of stocker heads and a speed density EFI system would povide ass loads of torque and and always be there when you need it. Chevys are just too damn touchy about running hot , or low on oil or anything out of the "Norm". Lets face it , that shit happens and what you are running needs to be able to deal with it. The little Chebby motors became so common place because of cost and availability years ago . The fords were higher priced to build or adapt for a different application other then the one they were intended for. But those days are gone and pound for pound and dollar for dollar you do get a more powerfull/reliable powerplant. Hell , you can stroke the Windsor up for pennies now and have a big block in a small package that will run forever the way we are using them. Although , a little bit of nothing can get you 300/300 with them using stock parts.. With that box full you might want a little bit more ass though...... I say we put Ron in the box and ride him around the desert to see if the reflection thing is working.... Should know when you let him out ten hours later... Kyle   muskyman Posted on Sunday, January 26, 2003 - 04:42 pm:    I tend to agree the windsor would have been a great choice. you can build a 427ci windsor really cheap and they make heaps of power even with pretty low compression. the one advantage the chevy would have is when it does puke its guts you could always find any old chevy 350 and drop it in. the ford may take a little bit longer but not much.   Michael Slade Posted on Sunday, January 26, 2003 - 08:03 pm:    Hmmm....didn't know my options with the Ford motor. I think that when Timm was suggesting the 350 he kind of knew in the back of his head that if it puked it's guts out way out nowhere, that any junkyard and/or dealer would have a 350 ready to go. Interesting about the Ford though. Big block power in a small block. Doh! I think that Timm was also thinking about future engine conversions, and he had never done a Chevy installation into a coil-sprung frame. He's developed some trick little motor mounts that just bolt onto the stock location and puts the motor in just the right place (according to him, what the Hell do I know eh?). I'm not a big motorhead, so it's interesting to hear your opinions on the Ford. I guess the circles I've been running in have been so approving of the Chevy that I hadn't second guessed my decision. Too late now, but it's good to know for *future* projects! (oh crap, what have I said??) Do we have a guinea pig for the box experiment? I'll let you guys know when it's 110 in the shade. Michael   Kyle Posted on Sunday, January 26, 2003 - 08:32 pm:    Well I am certainly guilty from time to time of being from the "If its always running its a good engine" crowd but if I was doing a ground up I would certainly go that way. I didnt read a write up anywhere on that thing but I am interested in "The box" now. The options are so vast for that thing I am wondering now. Did you put some lighting and all that good shit in there ? If it was nice and cool in there I might just fight ya to get in there and sleep if it was parked near by. Sean Wolf has it so damn nice sleeping in that 110 all the time and yours is like a condo compared to his... Yes I have some envy...... Kyle   Jason Vance (Jason) Posted on Sunday, January 26, 2003 - 09:27 pm:    Well, I'm certainly a Ford guy, and the 351w is a great engine, but there's no harm in the SBC 350 (as much as I hate Chevy's...). Parts are more plentiful, easier to find and cheaper, from stock replacement to hi-po. Now you need to squeeze it and hit E-Bay looking for a plate-NOS system   Kyle Posted on Sunday, January 26, 2003 - 09:39 pm:    That brings us to the other thing SBC's like to do , FLY APART!!!! Its only the chebby that I have seen completely grenade into a million different pieces because of the weak block/bell housing pattern.....Thats a sight that everyone mechanical needs to see atleast once in thier life time... In most cases its new block , new trans , new driveshaft and new yokes.. Not a pretty sight , not pretty at all.... Not that I am against SBC's or anything.... Kyle   Michael Slade Posted on Sunday, January 26, 2003 - 10:51 pm:    Oh crap. Thanks guys, now I know what I'll be dreaming about tonight. With a motor that you know is going to fly apart, how can you admit to any 'box envy'??? Michael   muskyman Posted on Sunday, January 26, 2003 - 11:16 pm:    Michael, some real retro crank out galss windows would be really cool . and some roll out awnings. I think once the creature comforts are done its gonna be an awsome mothership. you may want to try to find some of the old write ups one the turtle expedition trucks. they came up with a number of really cool tricks for keeping cool and warm under all kinds of conditions.they also made a number of changes in what they used from there first truck to what I think was 5 different vehicles. they took those things everywhere to so they had lots of expierience to base there decisions on. your gonna have alot of fun in that thing cheers thom   Carter Simcoe (Carter) Posted on Monday, January 27, 2003 - 12:35 am:    For "retro crank out glass windows" go find a wrecked/trashed travel trailer or motorhome most of them still have those things in them brand new.   Jason Vance (Jason) Posted on Monday, January 27, 2003 - 12:55 am:    For Pete's sake...your engine isn't about to fly apart! Your not taking it above 5500 rpm, much less 4500 rpm, and it's not like you built the engine towards the high end of it's mechanical and structural limits. "In most cases," your engine is gonna live a decent life...it's not like the 350 SBC has been around for decades and used in dozens of applications or anything...   Kyle Posted on Monday, January 27, 2003 - 08:20 am:    Naaaa , I was just addressing Jason's thoughts on wanting to "squeeze" it. I have seen a few that had all the parts "Squeezed" right out..... Kyle