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Bob Foster (Coppertop)
| | Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 11:12 pm: | 
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The damn dealer tightened my front lugnuts so tight that I cant get them loose....oh well guess Ill just finish the passengers side tomorrow and the front next weekend. But I switched to the OME HD constant load springs with a 1.5" spacer......woooooh baby what a difference. Made a substantial difference in ground clearance!! Will post pics of before and after when I get done. |
muskyman
| | Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 11:16 pm: |
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bob,
run to the nearest truck stop and buy a big cross style lug wrench, the y usally get about $35 for them and they afford lots of torque.
good luck |
Bob Foster (Coppertop)
| | Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 11:18 pm: |
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Broke a craftsman 3/4 drive ratchet AND a breaker bar....and my electric impact wouldnt touch it. Sounds like someone needs to adjust their air wrench. Glad I was in the garage, not on the trail!! |
muskyman
| | Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 11:23 pm: |
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ratchets arent meant for big torque...and electric impacts are like electric winches alot of marketing not much twist.
the big cross for a tractor trailer is about 24" wide you can generate some serious twist with one pushing on one side pulling on the other |
Jroc (Jroc)
| | Posted on Sunday, January 26, 2003 - 12:04 am: |
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I use a 3/4 ratchet and sleeve a '4 aluminum pipe over it. Plenty of lubricant (WD40, lock eaze, motor oil, whichever you like). Then when I got those pieces of shit off, I swapped em for solid lugs. Nathan got em for me and I've never had a problem since. Good Luck |
Jason T. Barker (Speedminded)
| | Posted on Sunday, January 26, 2003 - 12:16 am: |
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Sometime last year, shortly after getting my tires put on I attempted to take my lugs off to change brake pads. I swear that dealers, tire shops, and repairs shop mechanics have never used or even seen a torque wrench. "Don't need no torque wrench, my impact here is set right".
I don't care if your impact wrench cost you $1,200.00 you can't torque a lug with it. (well, unless you locked it and turned it manually...but don't see that done often)
...I couldn't find a 29mm socket and the 1 1/16" was in a toolbox hiding somewhere so I got the Land Rover lug wrench out....I am the 2nd owner and I know the 1st had never changed a tire in his life, so it had to be new, Anyways...I twisted the wrench and the paint flaked off around the socket end.
I got a large wrench (breaker bar, not a ratchet) and found the 1 1/16" deep socket. I couldn't loosen any of them so a 265 lb. friend of mine tried, I am positive the tire turned on the concrete when he tried (and no, I had not even put the jack under it yet).
So we went down to a friends shop and got one of the lug wrenches for his semi fleet, and a 4 ft. pipe. Finally, with me (190lbs.) standing on one side of the lug wrench with all my weight on one foot bouncing while he had the pipe on the other side jerking up we got one off....10 minutes later we had two wheels off.
I know this story was long but it does have a point. Always put the lugs on yourself and torque them....with alloy wheels they have to be checked and torqued at least one more time in a couple days because it will loosen up. Shops are not liable for broken studs so it doesn't bother them to break one then charge you $15-25+ per stud to replace it.
I have taken a torque wrench to a tire shop before and used it to back off a lug (it works, not very accurate but could tell that my lugs were overtightened by 20+lbs.)
I can tighten any lug within 5lbs of spec using a lugwrench. Its not that hard to actually take the time and do it right...but what do I know, I don't get paid to do it. |
muskyman
| | Posted on Sunday, January 26, 2003 - 01:01 am: |
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Quote:I don't care if your impact wrench cost you $1,200.00 you can't torque a lug with it. (well, unless you locked it and turned it manually...but don't see that done often
this isnt really true, the best shops use a lug socket that no mater what the gun is set to as long as it is in excess of the spec the tool only transfers the correct amount of torque. the rest of the force just twists the tool .
I havent seen them in sizes big enough for a rover but I would be surprized if they didnt have them. |
Keith Kreutzer (Revor)
| | Posted on Sunday, January 26, 2003 - 08:11 am: |
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I have a Long Nose Snap on 1/2" Impact wrench Capable of like 600ftlbs of torque. Using a snap on Twister lug socket in 1 1/16" I can crank the impact up all the way at 120psi shop air and never get more than 80 ft lbs of torque at the lug nut. Normally this setting would strip a 3/4" bolt if you bottomed it out.. It's a happy tool. |
Brian Dickens (Bri)
| | Posted on Sunday, January 26, 2003 - 10:26 am: |
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I have had tires installed at Big O in Castle Rock CO and 4x4 Parts Wholesalers off I70 in Denver. Both of these shops have provided good servce. 4x4 parts in particular, adjusts the impact wrench appropriately then tightens with a torque wrench. They drive around about 1 mile or so and torque it again.
I recommend that you require this of any service department working on your wheels, if they did something bad and broke a stud, they should be liable if they over torque your wheels and result in damage or injury. |
ryanspeed
| | Posted on Sunday, January 26, 2003 - 04:29 pm: |
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I was in CO in my DII, and my DAD in his RR when he had a flat on a trail. We broke both of our tire irons trying to get the lugs off. We were about to drive back COPS-car-chase-style on the rim, but a Aussie on vacation drove by and helped us out with a big-ass lug wrench. It still required two of us jumping on the breaker bar in order to get those bitches loose. The real cost was realized when we offered to buy him a FEW beers, but it was worth it! |
Dave M.
| | Posted on Monday, January 27, 2003 - 08:37 am: |
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All my local shops use TorqStix. Probably since they are designed and built by a local company. They seem to work very well. |
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